If the American President is the leader of the free world...

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  1. Chewmylegoff

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    Jan 26, 2004
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    #1 Chewmylegoff, Dec 9, 2004
    Should the free world be allowed to vote for him. It seems a bit odd that the majority of the free world should be so disenfrachised in such a decision.
     
  2. malby

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    #2 malby, Dec 9, 2004
    LMAO!!!!! Your the man chewie!!
     
  3. Chewmylegoff

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    #3 Chewmylegoff, Dec 9, 2004
    i'm serious, how can the american president claim to speak for the free world as a flagship for democracy, when he is forced upon the "free world" who have no choice in his appointment.

    i'm not saying that the rest of the world should be allowed to choose america's leader - but why should that leader claim to be the leader of the rest of the world as well?
     
  4. Caesar

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    #4 Caesar, Dec 9, 2004
    This is just a really dumb thread.
     
  5. malby

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    #5 malby, Dec 9, 2004
    Well thats obvious. God told him he was.
     
  6. Chewmylegoff

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    #6 Chewmylegoff, Dec 9, 2004
    don't read it then
     
  7. johan neeskens

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    #7 johan neeskens, Dec 9, 2004
    That is a fair point and it's well made. The American president should at least, when he refers to himself as the leader of the free world, add 'self-appointed'.
     
  8. Juan Carlos II

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    #8 Juan Carlos II, Dec 9, 2004
    Why is it when it's true?

    It's just like in films when aliens land and ask to be taken to the leader it's always the damn American president but what if they landed in Turkmenistan?
     
  9. Chewmylegoff

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    #9 Chewmylegoff, Dec 9, 2004
    i prefer the tag "unelected"

    eg: as unelected leader of the free world i think that we need to bring democracy to all of the disadvantaged people of the world.

    you know, at least dont be hypocritical about it
     
  10. Chewmylegoff

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    #10 Chewmylegoff, Dec 9, 2004
    fine turn my serious point into a big joke. thanks for nothing.
     
  11. johan neeskens

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    #11 johan neeskens, Dec 9, 2004
    You need to break that sentence up a bit, I think it might be too long and complicated for him.
     
  12. Chewmylegoff

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    #12 Chewmylegoff, Dec 9, 2004
    no no, this isn't a personal reference to bush, but american presidents as a collective group.
     
  13. johan neeskens

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    #13 johan neeskens, Dec 9, 2004
    I apologise. One thing I am not clear on: is it that the american presidents as a collective group call themselves the leader of the free world that you object to, or is that they act as the leader of the free world that you have a problem with?
     
  14. jmeissen0

    jmeissen0 New Member

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    #14 jmeissen0, Dec 9, 2004
    i don't believe the president calls himself the leader of the free world

    i believe the media does that...



    that goes for any u.s. president
     
  15. Chewmylegoff

    Chewmylegoff Member

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    #15 Chewmylegoff, Dec 9, 2004

    so when kennedy gave a speech in 1960 defining what it meant to be leader of the free world and stated that "A Great President should clearly understand what it means to be the Leader of the Free World", he was just joking around was he?
     
  16. BenReilly

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    #16 BenReilly, Dec 9, 2004
    When the Europeans win a World Series, THEN they can whine about not electing the LEADER of the Free World.
     
  17. Alan Reet

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    #17 Alan Reet, Dec 9, 2004
    Isn't the World Series played in America?
     
  18. jmeissen0

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    #18 jmeissen0, Dec 9, 2004
    before they reach office, sure... after they are out, sure... during... doubtful

    and i believe kennedy was president from 61-63... please correct me if i'm wrong


    i'd be more of the opinion that is something that is a creation of the media
     
  19. Alan Reet

    Alan Reet New Member

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    #19 Alan Reet, Dec 9, 2004
    And the president tries so hard to correct them :rolleyes:
     
  20. BenReilly

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    #20 BenReilly, Dec 9, 2004

    There have been a couple in Canada. Still, that's no excuse.
     
  21. jmeissen0

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    #21 jmeissen0, Dec 9, 2004

    why should he??

    it is obviously something that promotes him in a positive light towards the people he wants to re-elect him


    you work with the cards dealt to you, you don't throw them down if they give you a full house
     
  22. Alan Reet

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    #22 Alan Reet, Dec 9, 2004
    A couple in Cananda....careful, you might start to think there actually is a world outside America!
     
  23. Chewmylegoff

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    #23 Chewmylegoff, Dec 9, 2004
    well since the idea of being "leader of the free world" was a cornerstone of kennedy's election campaign, including the speech he made in 1960 which was part of that campaign, you are simply splitting hairs. a man who says that he is running for the post of leader of the free world is proclaiming himself leader of the free world in the event that he wins that campaign.
     
  24. jmeissen0

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    #24 jmeissen0, Dec 9, 2004


    do you imagine every american is xenophobic... or is that what gets you through the day... imagining that?
     
  25. malby

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    #25 malby, Dec 9, 2004
    Well that depends. I've seen many a people losing a lot of money whilst holding a full house that they should have thrown down.
     
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