If only size was the only thing that mattered...

Discussion in 'D.C. United' started by TCompton, Mar 6, 2004.

  1. TCompton

    TCompton Member

    Oct 21, 2002
    Alexandria
    Too bad size doesn’t play a bigger role on our team. Just look at this.

    3 forwards are 6 feet or taller

    Santino Quaranta, 6-1 185 lbs
    Thiago Martins, 6-0 185 lbs
    Josh Gros, 6-0 165 lbs

    Our midfield is still kind of short, with only one player over 6 feet

    Kevin Ara, 6-2 170 lbs

    But on defense, 4 our of 5 defenders are over 6 feet

    David Stokes, 6-3 203 lbs
    Mike Petke, 6-2 199 lbs
    Ryan Nelsen, 6-1 196 lbs
    Brandon Prideaux, 6-0 170 lbs

    And Doug Warren is 6-0 190 lbs

    Just think, if all else was equal, we could put a pretty tall group of players on the field.

    --------------Warren-------------
    --------------(6-0)--------------

    -Stokes---Petke---Nelsen---Prideaux-
    ---(6-3)----(6-2)----(6-1)-----(6-0)—

    -----------------Ara------------------
    --Carroll-----(6-2)-------Stewart---
    ---(5-10)-----Convey-------(5-9)----
    -----------------(5-9)----------------

    -------Martins------Quaranta--------
    -------(6-0)-----------(6-1)----------


    That leaves only 3 players under 6 feet.

    Unfortunately, the “all else” is not equal and we will no doubt be playing with a rather “vertically” disadvantaged starting 11. I guess we can be thankful that size does not matter.
     
  2. CHICO13

    CHICO13 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Oct 4, 2001
    SECTION 135
    Club:
    The Strongest La Paz
    Nat'l Team:
    Bolivia
    It's amazing to me that we still haven't scored off a corner since I don't know when. Maybe one of these guys will help us break out of that godawful stat.
     
  3. rwhgeek

    rwhgeek Member

    Aug 5, 2002
    Richmond, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I know we scored a few in non-league play last year but I think it has seriously been two years since we scored on a corner. I stopped keeping track anybody know when we last scored on a corner?
     
  4. gnat

    gnat New Member

    Oct 1, 2003
    Ivanov scored off a corner in the Open Cup (I think it was against the Metro "Ohh we have silverware now" Scum). That's the only one I remember hearing about in a few years. Damn I miss the days when Etch didn't even need a target in the box :)

    -dave
     
  5. RTM1

    RTM1 New Member

    Jan 7, 2003
    Great Mills MD
    Last year I e-mailed the stat guy from the MLSNet column (Peter something) and asked him if he knew that same thing. He said they don't keep records regarding goals from corner kicks. It will take someone with an unbelievable memory to answer that question.
     
  6. Marco10

    Marco10 Member+

    Sep 9, 2002
    I think Eddie Pope had the last CK goal. Lovely day it was way back in November '96 too :)

    Seriously, I think Eddie scored our last Ck in August 2002. It was the gamewinner in a 4-2 win over SJ in RFK.

    Of course, it still galls me that Ali Curtis scored a CK goal last year in RFK that the cursed referees disallowed because apparently Ali's skull apparently fouled the elbow of the crude defender giving him the old forearm shiver. :(
     
  7. Lowecifer

    Lowecifer Member+

    Jan 11, 2000
    Baltimore, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    I guess we finally got those tallocations we were in need of!
     
  8. CHICO13

    CHICO13 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Oct 4, 2001
    SECTION 135
    Club:
    The Strongest La Paz
    Nat'l Team:
    Bolivia
    You might be right Mike. Everytime I think of us scoring on a corner I think about Marco finding Goose at the top of the box and the Gooseman rifling a screamer on net. Sweet,sweet goal. :)
     
  9. Marco10

    Marco10 Member+

    Sep 9, 2002
    Probably just balacing out all the weeallocations we used in the past!

    And don't post strange words again!! It took me like 5 minutes of my life that I'll never get back doping out what in the hell you were trying to say!
     
  10. Lowecifer

    Lowecifer Member+

    Jan 11, 2000
    Baltimore, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    Sorry if I made your head hurt Mike.

    :)

    By the way, I've always referred to the allocations of guys like Quintanilla or Nunez (when we were speculating) as "smallocations"
     
  11. bigredfutbol

    bigredfutbol Moderator
    Staff Member

    Sep 5, 2000
    Woodbridge, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Wouldn't it be ironic, in the context of this discussion, if Cerritos becomes the guy to break the streak?
     
  12. nancyb

    nancyb Member

    Jun 30, 2000
    Falls Church, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    We were counting down the number of corners without a goal in my section last year. I think 149 is last number we counted.
     
  13. liverbird

    liverbird BigSoccer Supporter

    Sep 29, 2000
    Mars
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Just to correct an assumption --- while size helps in headed CKs, timing and hops are equally important. But the key is the delivery, this year some one other than MAE will take the corners and I think that will matter. Both Convey and Earnie have done so for the MNT and have been effective.
     
  14. Darth Norteño

    Darth Norteño With Buddha In My Fists

    The Arsenal
    Wales
    Dec 9, 2003
    laceyforest.arl.va
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Wales
    I'm pretty sure it was Ivanov in the Open Cup semifinal against the Scum. I believe it was the opening goal, or something to that effect. Damn radio webcasts.
     
  15. RTM1

    RTM1 New Member

    Jan 7, 2003
    Great Mills MD
    According to stats at MLSNet we had 175 corners last year. Also MARCO10 is correct that Eddie scored off a corner against San Jose. I did not read the remaining game summaries on MLS site but it seems reasonable that our last goal from a corner kick was that game in 2002.
     
  16. isaac101

    isaac101 New Member

    Mar 1, 2001
    Bethesda, MD
    I can confirm that our last goal off a corner kick in a league game was August 31, 2002 v. San Jose.

    Etch takes it, Pope heads it in.

    I did some corner kick stats analysis a while back in another thread. I'll dig that up at some point and update it for the beginning of the year.
     
  17. rwhgeek

    rwhgeek Member

    Aug 5, 2002
    Richmond, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I remember that thread and was hoping you would reappear isaac101. Thanks for any info you can give us. No matter how you cut it, it is a depressing stat.
     
  18. Detective40oz

    Detective40oz Member

    Jun 16, 2000
    Fairfax, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    I don't care who takes the corner, just as long as I don't see another high sow moon ball that defenders have ages to react to. A nice driven ball would be good to see every now and then.
     
  19. roadkit

    roadkit Greetings from the Fringe of Obscurity

    Club: San Diego FC
    Jul 2, 2003
    Fornax Cluster
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So if we score off corners, that's a good thing, right?

    I figure if we can start poking a few in now and again we'll be at the top of the East! I mean look at where we were last year, and according to a previous post we were 0-for-175.

    It's all good.
     

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