Idolos Aliancistas

Discussion in 'Alianza Lima' started by Guti™, Nov 24, 2006.

  1. condor11

    condor11 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 2, 2002
    New Zealand
    fully agree

    to you is Puma Carranza an idolo?

    or is he helped by the fact he was never good enough like say Chemo to leave Peru?
     
  2. Dominican Lou

    Dominican Lou Member+

    Nov 27, 2004
    1936 Catalonia
    Puma is an idolo, definitely.

    He wasn't good enough to go abroad but he was good enough to be called up to the NT on a semi-regular basis AND he usually delivered while there. Plus, he was good enough to be a starter on the biggest team in Peru for well over a decade.

    But players that are a rarity. You're either good enough to leave or you suck and play on and off.
     
  3. condor11

    condor11 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 2, 2002
    New Zealand
    yeah but how is that different from say Pepe Soto who was also a regular for the NT(in his best days) and Alianza Lima and delivered as much as Puma for both

    Waldir also has to be considered i mean he is Alianza all time scorer that has to count for something

    Arakaki is a massive massive stretch since he isnt even a semi regular for the NT
     
  4. Guti™

    Guti™ Moderator

    Mar 6, 2005
    La Victoria
    Club:
    Alianza Lima
    Nat'l Team:
    Peru
    To me Jayo is more of an idolo than Wally.

    I just hate Wally with a passion. :p

    If it wasn't for his shit perfomances with the NT, he could have become a real idolo.
     
  5. Dominican Lou

    Dominican Lou Member+

    Nov 27, 2004
    1936 Catalonia
    Well Soto started at Muni and then jumped ship to Cristal as soon they waved some cash in front of him. Plus he was in Mexico for like 4-5 years! They're actually very different.

    I agree that Jayo should be more of an idolo.

    And yes, Puma's style of play also helped. Absolutely everyone loves a guy that busts his ass and sacrifices his body for the team. And if he can intimidate opponents in the process, all the better.
     
  6. Visca...

    Visca... Member

    Sep 13, 2004
    ATL
    Nat'l Team:
    Peru
    Come on grones, just admit Wally Saenz is an idolo. :p

    We admit Puma is one for us.
     
  7. Guti™

    Guti™ Moderator

    Mar 6, 2005
    La Victoria
    Club:
    Alianza Lima
    Nat'l Team:
    Peru
    Idolo del kimbara.
     
  8. Broncano

    Broncano Moderator

    Jul 31, 2006
    Lima
    Club:
    Universitario de Deportes
    Nat'l Team:
    Peru
    Si bien ambos (Wally y el Puma) se parecen en que fueron idolos locales pero limitados en general como futbolistas, hay un par de diferencias:
    1) Wally vistio otras camisetas (incluida la del SC), mientras que el Puma siempre fue crema
    2) El Puma contribuyo un poquito para la seleccion. Para las eliminatorias del 98, El Ciego lo usaba en los segundos tiempos cuando el equipo estaba ganando para que corretee en la cancha y metiera leña. Wally siempre fue una absoluta nulidad con la seleccion. cada vez que le dieron la responsabilidad se orino todito.

    Y lo digo objetivamente, quitandome la camiseta. Como siempre
     
  9. Guti™

    Guti™ Moderator

    Mar 6, 2005
    La Victoria
    Club:
    Alianza Lima
    Nat'l Team:
    Peru
    Entonces podemos concluir que Wally NO es idolo? :rolleyes:
     
  10. Broncano

    Broncano Moderator

    Jul 31, 2006
    Lima
    Club:
    Universitario de Deportes
    Nat'l Team:
    Peru

    jaja.. para la mayoria de los aliancistas contemporaneos si lo es, definitivamente
    Durante años, Sur le cantaba "El goleador, El goleador, El goleador....".
     
  11. condor11

    condor11 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 2, 2002
    New Zealand
    good point on pepe
     
  12. ROMERO879

    ROMERO879 Member

    Apr 28, 2005
    Club:
    Sporting Cristal Lima
    Nat'l Team:
    Peru
    Pepe jumped ship from Alianza to Cristal.
     
  13. superfrantheman

    superfrantheman Red Card

    Nov 11, 2006
    Olvidados de Dios
    Club:
    Sporting Cristal Lima
    Nat'l Team:
    Peru
    everybody wants to play in SC
     
  14. msioux75

    msioux75 Member+

    Jan 8, 2006
    Lima, Peru
  15. el Rafaa

    el Rafaa Moderator
    Staff Member

    Mar 7, 2007
    Somewhere in MA
    Club:
    Universitario de Deportes
    Nat'l Team:
    Peru


    HAHHAHAHAHHHAHAHHAA!! :D - you should have said that since the beginning.
     
  16. Guti™

    Guti™ Moderator

    Mar 6, 2005
    La Victoria
    Club:
    Alianza Lima
    Nat'l Team:
    Peru
    :confused:

    You are a year and a half late, my friend.
     
  17. Visca...

    Visca... Member

    Sep 13, 2004
    ATL
    Nat'l Team:
    Peru
  18. Dominican Lou

    Dominican Lou Member+

    Nov 27, 2004
    1936 Catalonia
    A year and a half later it's still hilarious to see Wally Wally 3rd in this poll.
     
  19. el Rafaa

    el Rafaa Moderator
    Staff Member

    Mar 7, 2007
    Somewhere in MA
    Club:
    Universitario de Deportes
    Nat'l Team:
    Peru
    i guess it would help to look at the "date" once in a while :)
     
  20. Crema

    Crema Member

    May 9, 2005
    hahahahahahahaha this thread is a joke. Alianza having all those great stars being compared to las bestias de Wally, Pepe Soto, and Jayo.:D:eek:
     
  21. elperucho

    elperucho Member

    Mar 19, 2007
    Miami, Florida
    causa, si estas en el forum aliancista para hablar estupideces entoncs no postes, anda postea eso en los foros del bocon y futbolperuano.com....
     
  22. Crema

    Crema Member

    May 9, 2005
    you mad?:rolleyes: this thread is obviously a joke how the fck can an alianzista with knowledge compare sotil, cueto, and cubillas to jayo, pepe soto, and wally?:eek:
     
  23. Guti™

    Guti™ Moderator

    Mar 6, 2005
    La Victoria
    Club:
    Alianza Lima
    Nat'l Team:
    Peru
    Con el mismo criterio en el que hinchas de la U consideran al "Puma" Carranza un idolo e incluso lo ponen en la misma foto con Lolo. Tremendo PLOPSAZO. :D
     
  24. Peruvian_6663

    Peruvian_6663 Member+

    May 28, 2005
    In my House
    Nat'l Team:
    Peru
    name one player with half the nutz puma has :D
     
  25. alianza4life!

    alianza4life! Member+

    Feb 21, 2008
    hackensack,nj
    puma es un maton y punto................................
    pepe soto>puma matananza
     

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