I'd take this stadium now over Giants Stadium

Do I ever get any love ? I don't want to be "that guy" but I posted this the other day.... I am totally all for going with that place....they used to hold the NJ Eagles matches.


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For the $7 million the team is willing to part with they could fix Hinchcliffe up quite nicely. Maybe even work out a deal with the city of Paterson for neighborhood improvements and such. I'm sure the city wouldn't turn it's nose up at a possible source of income at what is now just an eyesore.

 

I think the major deal maker is that Harrison can provide a path station , where as Paterson couldn't. Nick always mentions the path option which seems to be a huge benefit, which it is.

I don't think there is any train service near by Hinchcliffe , so probably the only option would be setting up a NJ Transit bus pickup/drop off, which wouldn't be a stellar option due to prior poor service.

Hinchcliffe would be a better option in my mind only for the fact that the overall price tag would be smaller then Harrison. Parking is also an issue with the Paterson idea, but Harrison also needs a parking deck or two , so that's not an overly big add on.

Also I could see Paterson getting behind this a lot more then Harrison, and with Paterson being in a poorer shape then Harrison I think it might give the state more incentive to push the idea also back it financially.

 

As they say in New England ... "You can't get thare from heer". Paterson is a tough drive from just about anywhere except Paterson. I would love to learn about available public transit but know of none other than busses. The section of Paterson by the Great Falls is one of New Jersey's truly undiscovered gems. Talk about a stadium in a classic urban setting, this would be magnificent. I have been there as a "tourist" at least a dozen times. It is fascinating and offers a view on early industrial America that is astonishing.

Ironically, there is a huge Hispanic, presumably futbol loving, population there too. I know from trying to find the "Great Falls" back in 1990 and it took me about ten people before I found anyone who spoke enough English to direct me there.

I would go there for games in a NY minute. The problem is getting NYC fans there.

 

There is a train station on Market St and Memorial Drive. It's probably no more than a 15 minute ride to the stadium from there. Route 80 is within sight of the stadium except there is no direct access between the two.

 

I could see NJ Transit, State officials and the Metros putting together a park and ride facility together that could be used for commutes and also Metro events...possibly put it next to the stadium and you also might be able to incorporate St. Joe's hospital as well.

The view from Hinchcliffe is pretty sweet too. It could be one the better SSS in the US.

Harrison could be just as sweet but the final stumbling block has been $, Hinchcliffe could probably be half as costly and twice as easy as Harrison.

 

Could someone post a pic of Hinchcliffe ? I can't find on anywhere on the net.

For those of you not familiar with where it is ...http://maps.yahoo.com/py/maps.py?Py...t+&+Maple+St&csz=Paterson,+NJ&Get+Map=Get+Map

 

Go to MapQuest, and you can view a satelite photo of the, ahem, stadium. You'll have to register, which is a real pain in the ass.

 

how about using clifton stadium, i ts not very big but hey cant complain its better than giants stadium

 

Speaking of Giants Stadium, how wide is the field? During the Metros-Revs game, Shep and J.P. remarked many times about how wide the field is at Gillette Stadium. And just eyeballing it, Giants Stadium looks narrowish, like 68 yards. 73 max.

 

Will Harrison still be available when the metros are ready? I doubt the developer will hold the land forever.

 

I took a look at the satelite photo's via mapquest...the link at the bottom is to the view of the stadium.

As for the stadium possibilities, it has a lot more positives than Harrison does.

For one the article about Hinchcliffe mentions getting a historical grant from the state, which could infuse at least 4-10million for renevations. So right off the bat we are looking at an easy few million from the state.

As for parking , that could be solved in two ways.
1) Not sure if the adjacent high school is still in operation, but if it isn't you could easily tare it down and turn it into 2 parking decks. Let NJ Transit use it as a park/ride facility and you're looking at more money from the state, this coming from the Transportation Dept...also there seems to be a dirt lot to the right of that stadium that could be used as parking as well.

2) If the High School is still in use...from looking at the satelite photo's the opposite end of the stadium where the cliff is...the bottom seems to be vacant land of some sort. Turn that area into parking decks and include NJ Transit and you are still looking at more money from the state.

Driving to the stadium could be a pain the ass, but rte 80 will carry you most of the way and also rte 19 will take you into the area as well. A few of the local streets could be expanded to fit one more lane each way to accomodate traffic. I've been to Lockhardt a few times and it's situated in a similar spot, the local three lane street withstood the traffic fairly well.

If we included some special express bus service from the train stations you could pander to those who live in NYC without a car. It looks to be only 2 miles from the train stop to Hinchcliffe.

Harrison is easier on all Metro fans, however Hinchliffe could be a done deal in one year, where as Harrison has tons of red tape and could be years away. Hinchliffe comes with immediate grants and a county with a lot more money to spend. If they can make Harrison work so be it, but Hinchcliffe is by far the easier option.

Also , for those of who even remember the NJ Eagles , that was their home field and except for the astro truf it was one of the better fields in the NYC area. It has perfect sight lines, an amazing view and it's a huge soccer supporter area.

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Well if you are willing to build in a crappy location with bad road access, no public trans, etc.. You might as well buy Roosevelt Stadium from Union City's Board of ED. Renovate it. Add a few seats. and buy surrounding blocks for parking. It has WAY more buses passing it RIGHT now than any other street in NJ. The only problem is traffic. It's hell right now on rush hour though with tunnel and city traffic.

I think when you look at the big picture and not just "right now" we can't just build ANYWHERE. Sure, it will be nice and all and we all wont have suffer with Giants Stadium. But if youre gonna spend millions we better use it right and not build a stadium in some crappy area that in 5 years people arent going to be coming to because of many reasons. And in the end we will all be complaining about how crappy it is to get there or how there's no parking, etc. So just relax, take a deep breath and not just blur out the latest location cause its "available".

 

I can almost see it now as I drive into work each day down Rt. 19....Metro Park at Great Falls.

May not be as far fetched as anyone thinks.

 

The problem with the stadium becoming a historical building is that an organization can't change it around without a lot of hassel. So if it has just 9,500 seats that's how the stadium would have to be renovated.

 

I guess that means no room for luxury boxes.