Red Wings founded: 1926 Penguins founded: 1967 +51 year difference played in a league of just 6 teams. You have just 5 of those 11 Cups wins since the Pens were even founded including a 42 year gap from 1955 to 1997. Karma is a bitch and Hossa learned it tonight. Most people here don't care that he left, that was his right. It was because when he left he threw the Pens under the bus. Eat shit Hossa and Detroit. Hey at least the Tigers beat the Pirates tonight.
Original Six team, Gordie Howe, Sid Abel, Alex Delvecchio, Terry Sawchuck, Steve Yzerman, and many others have made their names and have had great careers here. We were the first team to have a European captain win the Cup. The coach award is named after Jack Adams who spent 20 years with Detroit as a coach and several years as a general manager. Even when we were shit for decades we were still the most successful American team in the NHL and the third most successful team in the NHL. That's history. We're the American team to go to and we always will be because of who we are. Pittsburgh is nothing more than an expansion team who was always likely to relocate until recently.
Sadly the Cowboys and Yankees are also considered the American team to go to in their sports and I f*****g hate them. Not sure you want to be in that axis of evil mate It was a shame the crowd had to boo last night (other than Lemiuex) - Wings fans really went down in my book after that, Imagine if a Pens fan went to stand outside a GM dealership and cheer......
Dude it's not the 90's anymore. Steelers and Red Sox are now 'America's teams'. After the ugly trip to enemy territory, it was nice seeing us win on a walk-off against the Mets. And congrats to Eddie!
Who cares about Gordie Howe or sid Abel, you weren't around to watch them play. I hate people who live in the past, that they weren't present for. If you weren't present for championships won and great players of yesteryear STFU about it.
nah just interested to see where this is going been a little quiet on the boards lately, even Kirsten is behaving these days...
This will most likely end up at an impasse with these sort of things. Really wish I didn't drink that much last night.
That's why I told you to drink more Kaz, so you'd still be asleep and not even have the option to regret.
come on Kaz, you have plenty of reasons to be happy. your team is one of the most successful ones in history of hockey. Beats being a Sharks fan. You should all hate Eddie. Not only his Phillies won, but now Penguins too. Hate the guy.
Part of my wedding: I give up Flyers (who I always hated anyone) and pick up Pens. Wife relinquishes all rights to the Steelers and becomes an Eagles fan. The Pens are the only non-Philly team I root for. TBH, I am about 60/40 now with the Phillies and Pirates. My Dad says I am only two years away from trying to dig up and have sex with Honus Wagner's rigomortic corpse. In fact, I am off to PNC Park now. Word around the stadium this morning when I was working as that the Pirates are working on getting Crosby or Malkin to throw out the first pitch tonight against the DETROIT Tigers; with Lord Stanley sitting on the pitchers mound.
This self-righteous attitude is exactly why I hate every Original 6 team with a passion unrivaled by anyone except the Cowboys and Mets. You really sound like a sour grape Liverpool supporter. I thought more of you than this.
I've never used that terminology for the Burins, though I know so many who do, it's such an elitist term and is bogus to begin with anyways.
I've got say Eddie after reading this: http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/majors/trade-central/2009/268293.html That trade sounds not so hot. Why not just put McLouth in Left?
Serious? Reread it. If anything I think it goes along with everything I said about it. It was a great trade for the Pirates. Read the last sentence, "Hernandez, Locke and Morton join a growing stable of young trade acquisitions who, in conjunction with the organization's own domestic and international scouting efforts, figure to form the core of future Pirates clubs." McLouth had to go because he's not young, he was worth most on the market and his price is at it's highest. McCutchen was CLEARLY ready to come up. It was getting to the point where keeping him in AAA would starting hindering his development. Someone had to go and the factors above meant it had to be Nate. The trade does fail to mention that if you take out April-May 2008 out of his stats, McLouth is a very average player at best. Look it up, I can't be bothered to do it again.
He's on pace for 30-30 and an 800 OPS that's not bad, especially for the Pirates, and for such little money. Every prospect seems to have some major flaw or hitch in their development.
Yes he's a good player for the Pirates...but put him on any other team and he's simply a complimentary part. That's my point. He's not a star, not a gold glove caliber player and not someone to build your team around. The Pirates do not have the luxury of keeping such a player just because the fans want them too. Since you seem to read BA as well, take a look at their top 10 prospects from last year to this year. There's about 8 new faces on that list and one returning guys is already in the majors with this trade (McCutchen). An .800 OPS puts him in that second tier of OF's but you have to remember that he's an average (at best) defender and is not the power threat he's perceived to be. He had something like 27 HR's last year and hit 13 of them in April and May. He's a nice, complimentary player but not a star by any means. In fact I think he relates really well to my favorite Phillie, Shane Victorino. Good player but not a star by any means.