This past weekend my Gu11 team played in a tournament. We had a good fall season in our league, so we stepped up our level a bit for this tournament and played in the middle tier of competition. I felt that we would have done really well in the bottom tier, but would have gotten crushed in the top tier. We lost all 3 games (where sort of competitive in 2. Completely out classed in 1) The teams that we played where considerably faster than we had been used to. It put us out of sorts and for passes that we usually connect, we didn't have the usual time to see the open player. A good eye opener for sure for us to get faster with our decision making and to have a better first touch on the ball. Faster teams will make you pay for your mistakes. We played 1 team that was so impressive. I thought our team played possession based soccer, but they opened my eyes to what it really should look like. We are taking a few weeks off before our spring season starts (we are in CA, so can play year round). I can't wait to get back at it and really push these girls to play a better version of what we have been doing. This past season our speed and skill were better than our opponents, so it masked our lack of true possession based soccer. I have a good handle on how to teach the technical part of doing better at possession based play. I think the tactical part is where I could use some help. The team that dominated us was very solid technically, but that wasn't where they killed us. Their players knew how to be in the right place during all phases of the game. Every player knew their role. How do I get us to play the same way during an 11v11 match?
Rehearse. When I say "rehearse", do it with no opponents. Set up 10 field players (or the full 11) and have the rest watch and pay attention. We work on a two patterns to start: CB > LB > CM > RM (the ball is switched) > vertical ball to ST > ST crosses to LM > LM sends it back to CB. The second pattern is generally the same, but the ball stays on the same side before being switched to the opposite flank by the ST. So, CB > LB > CM > LM > ST. And this is done to give them a feel for where to be and where the ball should go—improving speed of play. With no opposition it also doubles as a technical passing and receiving drill. Then you can add defenders and make it a game where the objective is to get it endline to endline without conceding possession (ST and CBs are on the endlines). Some coaches fear it, because they think it's slow and boring and players will check out. One approach is to just do it and expect them to stay tuned. It really doesn't take that long, maybe 15-20 minutes on the first few days. I'll try to post diagrams later. Plus, "I gotta guy" with a manual. It's his methodology that he's painstakingly set out. I can put you in touch with him and see if he'll let you have the manual. He's a nice guy, but I don't feel comfortable handing out his copyrighted material for obvious reasons.
also, to your other point, we ran into a similar situation. We thought we were pretty good then went to a tournament and played some USDA teams and got crushed. It was good, it was the impetus for me and my club in general to up our (possession) game.
You might find Dan Blank's book, "Possession: Teaching Your Team to Keep the Darn Ball," useful. It describes how he trains his college teams. Not that you should expect your kids to play or train like a college team, but he starts with fundamentals and has drills and the coaching points that he uses to develop the tactics. I learned a lot from it.
I'm a lacrosse coach, soccer parent, so if what I write is bunk in soccer I apologize. The better lacrosse teams I've seen, and many soccer teams, have adopted the "triangle" concept of possession from basketball. It teaches players the concept of finding space. As a matter of fact, very few of the better college lacrosse teams even do full field scrimmages in practice anymore. Most of it is small field play. I think basketball and lacrosse drills "translated" to soccer can be very helpful as these are both "possession" sports. There is no "dump and chase" in either of these sports. If a pass is made without a target the ball goes out of bounds. So maybe look at some lacrosse and basketball drills. Some of the drills you probably use already in soccer, such as 3 v 2 keep away in a box. 3 v 3 games using a small goal. I even incorporated conditioning into drills- my feeling was that if players were not handling a ball the time was wasted. So instead of running laps to warm up, I would break my team into groups of 3 with a ball. They would then jog around cones set up in a triangle working on passing. Instead of sprints I would run a variation of the "West Jenny" drill. Line up everyone at one goal line broken into groups- defenders, goalies, midfielders and attack (strikers). At the whistle the goalie and defenders (minus one or two), sprint down the field to defend the opposite goal. After a few seconds the whistle blows again and attackers are released with the ball. After about 10 seconds the whistle blows again and defensive midfielder(s) is/are released to sprint down and make it even. When the defensive middie makes it down, offense has a set period (I used 10 seconds in lacrosse), to score. If not, whistle blows, next group. We would run this non-stop. Tiring, but teaches other skills.
I have never heard of the "triangle" concept of possession in basketball. I only played JV basketball 50 years ago, but we had great coaches. I cannot conceive of a coach teaching, a 5-man team, tactics based on using only 3 players. I also would not describe soccer, basketball and lacrosse as "possession" sports, rather "penetration" (as in invasion of another team's territory) sports. But then a lot of rec soccer coaches teach 11-man team tactics based on using only 5 players. I am not one of those though. Makes it easy to win for a team that defends and attacks with 11 players. The "triangle offense" in basketball is a 5 man half court offense, with a strong side and a weak side. Perhaps that is what you were referring to.
It's called the "motion offense" but still based upon triangles. Four corners, one in the middle. It's very easy to teach three players, then add two more. A little different in lacrosse where I started with 3, then worked up to six, or two triangles in motion. It's gotten to the point in lacrosse where there is little difference on the better teams between midfielders and attackers. Japanese women's team uses the concept where I first heard it called "triangles" versus "motion", so I used that term. Not sure how you missed it. A rather obscure coach by the name of Phil Jackson made it famous. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triangle_offense I would most definitely describe lacrosse and basketball as possession sports. Yes, you penetrate, but without possession there's no penetration. You can't "dump and chase" or "long ball" in either of those sports. You may see longer passes, but outside of time killing or desperation they are always to someone.
Motion offense and triangle offense I have heard of, just never heard of "triangle possession." In soccer, including possession-style soccer, long passes are not only acceptable, but are in fact critical to success. A pass, even a long pass, by definition is intended to transfer possession to a team mate. Simply booting the ball up field is considered a clearance, not a pass. One criticism I have of youth soccer is when coaches unfortunately restrict players exclusively to short passes on the ground, worse still in specified patterns. That will not prepare kids to play adult possession-style soccer or develop good first touch and passing skills needed to play any style of soccer.
There is a difference between a long pass and booting the ball up field. Unfortunately what I see too much instead of long passes is just booting the ball up the field and seeing who is faster to the ball. There are cases where this is necessary. For example, if a defender is being pressed and sees no one open, it may well be better to boot the ball up field and hope for a 50/50 rather than lose the ball close to the goal. Too often, however, I see youth defenders who are not even pressed doing this. They have no idea of their looks, they are not trying to pass it to someone just kicking it. Again, it would be analogous to a basketball or lacrosse defender just chucking the ball up court/field for no reason. In the process they lose the possession without even making the other team work for it. It's a gift to the other team as defending usually requires more energy than attacking as the attacker can set the pace. The reason many youth soccer coaches try to instill the short passes is to get away from this. I don't agree with necessarily keeping them short, but I see what they are trying to avoid.
I just finished reading"Possession". Great book with good concepts. The biggest thing I took away from it was to demand that you players off the ball are in the BEST possible place to receive a good pass from a teammate. Not a "good place" but the best place. Being 2 steps right or left can be the difference between connecting 10+ passes and losing it quickly. Everybody has to be involved, all the time. We need to play Chess while other teams play checkers. For my team, it's going to be teaching them how to read the game better. And being pretty demanding that they play the right way. We start spring practice this afternoon. I'm fired up to get back after it. Coincidentally, I'm coaching an elementary school (5th/6th grade) basketball team right now. None of the girls have ever played basketball on a team before. 2 of the 11 are good soccer players. They are also my best basketball players. They understand the concept of spacing and resetting when they are being defended. They also understand shielding and using change of speed to beat an opponent. It's been a lot of fun. But everyone gets equal playing time and everyone gets a chance to play any position they want to try. Our offense sets have been pretty basic. And we only play man to man defense. Practices mostly consist of learning how to dribble and shoot a layup. Funny though to see some of the same "bad tactics" in basketball as you see in soccer. Park the big kid in the lane and let him shoot and defend from there. Don't ever let him dribble. Zone defense instead of man to man (it's easy and lazy to play zone when all kids only have a 7 foot range. Just clog up the paint and get rebounds.). I also see teams running overly complex inbounds plays when their teams would be better of spending time in practice playing 1v1 or 3v3.
Agreed. We spent February using our rondos to learn how to switch the point of attack. Starting to learn to bait the other team to one side by stringing together a few passes, then hitting the switch.
The sad thing is that on the U-Little teams I coached at least half the players were well behind in ball skills and not introduced at all to most fundamentals. I was training U12s like they were U10s. But if I didn't, chances are the kids would never get a chance to learn the fundamentals. The focus on U10-level training, was repetition for the better players, but I felt it would serve them well in the future as long as the training challenged them. There is no point in teaching intermediate tactics to players who don't have the skills necessary to successfully execute. This lack of a progression, however, was tougher on the coach.
There's a school of thought that believes you don't need high level skills to play possession soccer, and I've seen this to be true. It'll work against similarly skilled opponents and is, arguably, a more-soccer like way to play than focusing on technical alone and trying to let them figure it out. In theory, the game is simplified because making a 5 yard push pass is simpler than taking on an opponent 1v1. As far as the technical, their skill set will tip heavily toward passing and receiving (and it may not be very good). These kids are decent but simple play is good for players as they grow into the game. Limited options keeps the game simple and helps them make fast decisions.
A 5 yard pass is definitely easier than taking on a defender but it's the off the ball movement that makes possession soccer so tricky. Every practice I see kids screaming for a pass when they are in the shadow of a defender. A drill I like for this is rondo with cones. Make a square with 4 cones, 3 players on the outside and 1 in the middle. After the player makes a pass they have to run to the open cone.
[QUOTE="Dynamo Kev, post: 33660003, member: 11547"Every practice I see kids screaming for a pass when they are in the shadow of a defender...[/QUOTE] Seems simple enough. Just have them go quiet, not talking-it should help the player in the ball concentrate. In turn, they can focus on their movement instead.
This is a better drill than the one I described.. Players move to create the angle rather than move after passing.. both serve a purpose.
Great exercise. It's one step up from the beginning. We drill moving up and down the sides of that square to create good passing angles endlessly.
That school of thought only considers ball handling skills. An organized zone press and defense in depth will beat an unskilled short passing attack every time. The key to successful possession style play is the long pass to shift fields. From what I have seen, most coaches don't teach U-Littles how to press. I think that school of thought assumes they won't face a zone press. To beat a zone press, you have to have mobility. Five yard passes won't do it. The clip showed a successful penetration because the defending was poor. Defending is 20% technique, 20% tactics, 20% mental, and 100% physical At any level it is easier to teach defending than attacking. As an aside, I think the rule changes with the new "build-out lines" will encourage more U-Little coaches to teach a high pressure defense using the "build-out line" as a literal line of confrontation. They won't have to deal with "line of confrontation" as an abstraction. Without accurate long passing skills, the play may well break down to kick and run. Regardless, the issue is not whether low-skilled players can play possession style using short push passes, but rather the issue is whether the coaches of the low-skilled players should be focused on improving skills for future success in competitions or on improving tactics for immediate success.
Not sure how this is an improvement on simple keep-away games. The equivalent would be 3v1 in a defined area. The weakness in a structured drill like this is that players are not making decisions about when and where to move, rather they are following instructions.
Ain't that the truth. For us this Spring, it's that off the ball movement that we are super focused on. I'm probably "freezing" play more than I should, but players aren't giving great angles to the player with the ball. They are almost there, but another few steps one way or another can make a huge difference. I'm also dealing with players calling for the ball when they are a terrible option (i.e. Behind 2 defenders with their teammate facing the other way). I'm trying to get them to give instructions other than "pass to me. I'm open".
That slightly longer pass, 10 yards? 15 yards?, comes in time and really won't take that long. And you can build it into their training to face some kind of press in an "applied rondo". So after they work 4v2 in a directionless setting, the players might be asked to matriculate up the field using the rondo principles they just worked on. That's what I was saying in Post #14, "similarly skilled opponents" and usually they will face exactly that. What proponents of this method will argue, like the 3four3 guys, that technical skills will be developed in this method. Although, the technical skills will start with possession-type skills instead of dribble-centric skills. In fact, the only other club I really respect in my area does just this with their youngsters—they've been playing wall passes against us since U9.
I was just about to mention the 3four3 guys, is anyone a paid member? Any thoughts? Dan Blank has a nice little book out called Possession- some good stuff in there. I'm holding some practices at the local deck hockey rink this Spring with the intention of teaching wall passes and how effective they can be.
It seems that way, but I've gotten a lot of mileage and learning out of 4v1s in a box. We gotta simplify the decision making at the start. Off the ball, B and D just move north-south and C east-west. The decisions for A are simple, C is the first option, then either B or D to the side. (fig 1) The next step, as you were implying, is adding an outlet on a long axis. (fig 2) Once they master these few, simple decisions they are well on their way to tackling more complex ones. So after (fig 2) (which actually should be a 4v2+1 and not a 4v1+1) we would progress to something more complex, like 5v3+1 or 2v2+2N. Subsequently, these are also the same drills we use to teach to "open up" i.e. create good passing angles. Referring to the above drawings, "opening up" would be B and D moving towards A, and possibly getting right on top of that corner so Defender X can't get into the passing lane. In an applied setting, A would be the GK playing out on a Goalkick, B and D her two CBs, C would be a CM, and E a striker. Our U-littles play 6v6 (5 field players, so you can see the direct application), in that case A would be a CB and B/D would be two "flankers".
See the diagrams I put down below. Yes, one or two steps makes a world of difference—just keep on 'em and they'll see it eventually. It takes time. Took about 8 weeks of constant work on a handful of concepts regarding possession and we still have to revisit the basics like once a month. Regarding calling for the ball, we had a terrible problem of players calling their teammate's name. I'd end up telling them "he knows his name, stop yelling it". Show them how it's confusing by having one player have a ball and everyone shout his name. Not productive, right? As far as fixing it, gotta drill the correct behavior. So in a rondo, I would suggest that they just practice one type of call during the drill: "side" or "square (left/right)" or "forward". The objective is to get them to use descriptive language. "Here" or "yes" doesn't mean much, left/right/forward/back is much more useful to the player on the ball (POTB). The first road block is replacing the bad habit with a good one and it's helpful to make the change a no brainer. If we give them a dictionary of commands off the bat, it's confusing. Start with one, learn to use it in the right context and we can build their lexicon from there. We went from 6 kids screaming "here" or the person's name to church quiet. But that's the step, they didn't know what to say other than the person's name so we had to build. Most of the time they don't really need to say anything because their responses to the situation are drilled into them. There are still a lot of times where they could give a shout of "man on" or "switch" but that's why they're not pros. among other things.