I think Davy Arnaud can be a YA one day (R)

Discussion in 'Yanks Abroad' started by jri, Nov 5, 2004.

  1. jri

    jri Red Card

    Sep 28, 2000
    boca
    I continue to be real impressed w/this guy.

    His work rate/speed and ability to score with different angles on feet.....make me believe he could make it in the Coca-Cola...

    Anyone know his contract situation?
     
  2. ChrisE

    ChrisE Member

    Jul 1, 2002
    Brooklyn
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    American Samoa
    He was a developmental player in 2002, but was signed to a full contract before 2003. So if we want to assume a typical four years, that would mean he'd have two left. But this is clearly speculation, and I'm not so sure that it's really that important. Arnaud, unlike somebody like Convey of Bocanegra, likely hasn't been thinking about making a move to Europe for the last several years. He's been focused on staying in MLS - I'd expect him to be renegotiate a contract after this season.
     
  3. Unorthodox Yank

    Feb 27, 2001
    Constant Flux
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Definitely. Especially since nobody really expected him to be playing in every single game for the wizards this season.


    ..and scoring agood amount of goals in the process.
     
  4. Peretz48

    Peretz48 Member+

    Nov 9, 2003
    Los Angeles
    ...yes, and performances like the one against the Galaxy won't hurt.
     
  5. WC2010Champs!

    WC2010Champs! New Member

    Sep 4, 2004
    Charlotte, NC
    but yesterday was his first goal scored in over two months - gotta become more consistent if he wants to go abroad but hey, we want this forum to grow right???
     
  6. nancyb

    nancyb Member

    Jun 30, 2000
    Falls Church, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I thought we wanted it to die? ;)
     
  7. voyager

    voyager Member

    Jun 10, 2004
    Frederick, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    I agree that it is a possibility. I doubt he could make much of an impact in the EPL, or its equivalent, but he could make it in a lower league, as jri mentioned.

    I was thinking that Eddie Johnson would be the next to make a move, however. I mean, Liverpool is looking for a striker, are they not?
     
  8. numerista

    numerista New Member

    Mar 21, 2004
    Just to expand on this point, Arnaud is making $25,200 this year. If he's willing to accept a contract extension with MLS, he'll climb into the vicinity of $100K. We're not likely to see him in Europe for a while.

    As for his consistency, it did seem as if he'd been slowing down a bit. At the same time, Wizards forwards don't get many opportunities to score, especially since Chris Klein got hurt. Arnaud had two chances last night, and he converted them both. What's more, the first one was largely a result of his own individual effort -- he pressured Albright into a misplay, then ran an excellent give-and-go with Wolff.
     
  9. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    The Wizards lack of scoring ties in directly to both Chris Klein and Preki being unavailable, and Igor Simutenkov not being full strength.

    The sudden emergence of Khari Stephenson (who knew?) as a third attacker has suddenly freed things up for Wolff and Arnaud.
     
  10. galperin

    galperin Member

    Feb 1, 2001
    Maineville, OH
    Davy will never play in Europe. He will likely be a very good MLS player throughout his career.
     
  11. sidefootsitter

    sidefootsitter Member+

    Oct 14, 2004
    There should be some sort of a winter camp for young American guys to work on their skills and so forth. We have Bradenton for the young'uns. Isn't there a pitch or two nearby, so guys like Arnaud don't go into the hybernation in the off-season?

    Or can they get training with Euro teams?

    BTW, Davy is 24 and getting to the point where it's now or never, insofar as his potential Euro career goes.
     
  12. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Exactly how long do you think the MLS offseason is?

    Most teams will have a camp in January. The Wizards first competitive match is mid-March in the CCC. At best, he's looking at 6-8 week break after 10 months of non-stop playing. That's assuming he's not spending some time in a USMNT camp or three.

    And every year, players from MLS do offseason training stints in Europe and South America.
     
  13. Dr Jay

    Dr Jay BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 7, 1999
    Newton, MA USA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Never say never.

    Does he have any family ties to a Euro country ? Otherwise he will never get a work permit to play in England.

    Oops.

    Never say never. You listening, Bruce ?
     
  14. sidefootsitter

    sidefootsitter Member+

    Oct 14, 2004
    Well, then the break is from mid-November till early March, not counting the mini-camp, for the play-off participants and is November through February for the non-participants and the early round casualties or roughly 3 months off.

    I'd say they could spend the middle 4-6 weeks working on their skills somewhere in Florida without necessarily getting into a game shape.

    Those who follow the various teams training regimen undoubtedly know more about it than I do but it seems to me that a "skill-only" program where players practice crosses and shots on goal without any further tactical teaching may result in a terrific improvement in the MLS quality of play.
     
  15. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Most MLS teams are in full training at the end of January/start of February.

    So mid-November to start of February. 10 weeks.
     
  16. numerista

    numerista New Member

    Mar 21, 2004
    It's been a long time now, but I remember reading a good piece about the Wizards' off-season training. They practice hard, outdoors, in the cold. The one thing that really stuck in my mind was how Nick Garcia -- already a standout player -- didn't own a car and would ride his bike to practice through the snow.
     
  17. voros

    voros Member

    Jun 7, 2002
    Parts Unknown
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Flash forward to 2024:

    Star Player: Coach Garcia, sorry I'm late for practice but the Benz was in the shop and the wife had the Rolls so I had to wait until she got back.

    Garcia: Benz? Listen kid, when I was your age I used to ride my bicycle to practice through a foot of snow. And I was glad to have the bicycle! You kids today have it so easy...
     
  18. jri

    jri Red Card

    Sep 28, 2000
    boca

    ?? JMM went back over at 28....McBride even later....
     
  19. sidefootsitter

    sidefootsitter Member+

    Oct 14, 2004
    And the appropriate word here is "back".
     
  20. ChrisE

    ChrisE Member

    Jul 1, 2002
    Brooklyn
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    American Samoa
    No, it's not. Clint Mathis left the league at 27. Although McBride went to VfL Wolfsburg at 23, he didn't get back to Europe until 6 years later, at 29. He didn't transfer till two years after that. Vanney didn't go to Bastia till he was 27. Sanneh moved at 27. There's no reason to think Arnaud has to go now or never go.
     
  21. Fulhamfc3

    Fulhamfc3 New Member

    Sep 26, 2004
    Las Vegas
    Arnaud right now could play at Championship level and be an ok player. If he has another good year next year then there might be maybe a lower Premiership club trying to get him.Arnaud is what 23 or 24 so he still has time to get to Europe.Arnaud is a good MLS player but, right now not a Premiership player.
     
  22. jri

    jri Red Card

    Sep 28, 2000
    boca
    While JMM put up some numbers in BL2 Germany, McBride did nothing of note in his short time. In both cases, it was mostly irrelevant....the teams in question were 'put on' to the candidate, they did their homework (play of last couple/few years), and made their decision. The early Euro experience was negligible at best, and totally irrelevant at worse.

    If Arnaud plays the next 2 seasons like this year, he'll be able to trial at some good clubs abroad- if he wants....I think he could latch on to a Coca-Cola team (or if citizenship rule prevent), a lower 1st division Holland club, or any in Belgium, etc.
     
  23. strider026

    strider026 New Member

    Aug 7, 2002
    Huh
    Uphill both ways.
     
  24. sidefootsitter

    sidefootsitter Member+

    Oct 14, 2004
     
  25. Fulhamfc3

    Fulhamfc3 New Member

    Sep 26, 2004
    Las Vegas
    Right now Arnaud could play in Europe just not the Premiership,Serie A,La Liga, or Bundesliga.He could play in the Netherlands or Belgium or Denmark etc etc.Arnaud needs another 1 or 2 good years in the MLS then he could play in a big League like the Premiership Bundesliga etc.
     

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