I don't believe in jinxes...

Discussion in 'USA Men' started by mike burns, Jun 22, 2010.

  1. mike burns

    mike burns Member

    May 20, 2002
    Suwon, South Korea
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    The Nats will beat Algeria tomorrow, along with a German defeat of Ghana.

    This likely puts the US as number 1 in the group (England won't beat Slovenia by 2 more goals than the US will beat Algeria).

    US then plays Serbia in the round of 16 (Serbia won't lose to Australia). The winner of this match faces the winner of South Korea-Uruguay to advance to the semi-finals.

    Certainly we could lose to any team in South Africa...but if someone would have told you two weeks ago that on June 22 we would be undefeated and all we need to do is beat Algeria, Serbia, and Uruguay/S. Korea to make the semi-finals who would have been happy?
     
  2. Bruce S

    Bruce S Member+

    Sep 10, 1999
    with Mike Burns as your handle, you should not be using the word "jinx".
     
  3. JeremyEritrea

    JeremyEritrea Member+

    Jun 29, 2006
    Takoma Park, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    News? Analysis?

    This thread is like the OP's namesake guarding the near post vs Germany in 1998.
     
  4. appoo

    appoo Member+

    Jul 30, 2001
    USA
    The report function will do nicely, thanks.

    Moving this to USA Men
     
  5. Ombak

    Ombak Moderator
    Staff Member

    Flamengo
    Apr 19, 1999
    Irvine, CA
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    For England to be first they need better goal differential. That means a 1x0 win by the US and a 2x0 win by England put England first.

    The 2-goal difference that has been talked about comes into play if both teams tie.

    If both teams win it comes into play if goal difference is the same and England scores two more (eg, US 1x0, England 3x2) in which case The US has a goal difference of one and 4 Goals for, 3 against and England has the exact same stats.

    Anyways, for the US to win the group they just need a better margin than England, the two goal difference would produce a tie that would be broken by drawing lots.
     
  6. brandonplaysguitar

    brandonplaysguitar New Member

    Apr 4, 2009
    Minneapolis, USA
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The odds of these wins average around 40% (complete estimate). So the odds of all of these games turning out the way you predict as easy wins is 0.4^5.

    1.12%
     
  7. bobbydigital

    bobbydigital Member

    Oct 20, 2007
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    so you're telling me there's a chance?
     
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