I beat all of you to the Fredua bandwagon!

Discussion in 'USA Men' started by gpbellamy, Mar 19, 2003.

  1. gpbellamy

    gpbellamy New Member

    Freddy is old news!

    Adu's 11-year-old brother, whose first name is also Fredua, is a soccer player who may be headed to the IMG Academy to train with the under-14 national team.

    "He's the big kid of the family. He's already like 5-foot-10," Adu said, smiling at the thought.
     
  2. usagoal

    usagoal Member

    Oct 19, 2000
    Las Vegas
    He's not 11, he looks 22 to me.
     
  3. gpbellamy

    gpbellamy New Member

    Freddy Adu == Jamar Beasley 2010 edition

    How about Fre2ua as a nickname?

    Freddy Prime could be the Jamar Beasley of 2010, a forerunner of even better things to come... Jamar was pretty good too!
     
  4. Justin O

    Justin O Member+

    Seattle Sounders
    United States
    Nov 30, 1998
    on the run from the covid
    Club:
    Seattle
    Re: Freddy Adu == Jamar Beasley 2010 edition

    This is probably the nightmare of every US soccer fan.
     
  5. cl_hanley

    cl_hanley New Member

    Sep 3, 2001
    Costa Mesa
    Re: Re: I beat all of you to the Fredua bandwagon!

    More importantly, do we have the correct age of Mrs. Adu? This, I think, may be a crucial piece of information that we have overlooked.
     
  6. JeffGMc

    JeffGMc Member

    Oct 14, 2000
    New York City
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Re: Re: Freddy Adu == Jamar Beasley 2010 edition

    What's wrong with the Charleston Battery?
     
  7. gpbellamy

    gpbellamy New Member

    and there is nothing wrong with the Battery!1

    They could be

    Freddy and Fredeux!!

    together a
    Freduo Aduo

    and there is nothing wrong with the Battery!1
     
  8. dcufan1984

    dcufan1984 Member

    Feb 17, 2002
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Re: Re: I beat all of you to the Fredua bandwagon!

    precisely! this woman could be a ussoccer baby breeder. she could give us an entire squad for 2022!
     
  9. dcc134

    dcc134 Member+

    Liverpool FC
    May 15, 2000
    Hummelstown, PA
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Re: Re: Re: I beat all of you to the Fredua bandwagon!


    Start harvesting those eggs today :)
     
  10. JohnR

    JohnR Member+

    Jun 23, 2000
    Chicago, IL
    Height

    This whole thing is surreal.

    Hell, the kid who is probably the top 11 year old in the north Chicago suburbs (region of 1 million people) is 4' 6". He succeeds just fine playing against guys who are 5' tall, or even 5' 3'. But 5' 10" ... gimme a break.

    (My kid played in a 3 vs. 3 scrimmage against a national champion U12 team. That team is regarded as being good-sized and physical for a U12 team. The biggest player was maybe 5' 6".)

    These Adus mature so unbelievably early that it's hard to project their future growth -- not just in size, but in soccer maturation.
     
  11. usagoal

    usagoal Member

    Oct 19, 2000
    Las Vegas
    So Fredua is 5'10" and Freddy is 5'8". According to some people around here Freddy is older than 13 because he is just to big to be 13. So Fredua must be older than Freddy. Which means Freddy's younger brother is actually Freddy's older brother. Which means Freddy's mom is not actually his mom but his younger sister (and I heard she is way better than Mia Hamm), which means they are not actually from Ghana but from Conyers, Georgia, which means Freddy is actually Clint Mathis nephew, which means Freddy likes Super Cool Ranch Doritos.
     
  12. Aalborg

    Aalborg New Member

    May 2, 2002
    Freddy The 2nd

    Saw the kid play, I'd say he is fairly technically skilled, but tactically naive, like most or all 11 year olds would be, however he is by far not anywhere near the most talented, skillfull, strong or quickest player I saw in the games , but then again he was playing for a 1988 select team (out of Potomac MD) which would make him about 3 years younger than the rest. Size wise he was quite tall and one of the taller players, it is hard for me to believe he was eleven (when one parent said he is 13) hell who knows, But by no means was he the fastest or strongest. Just my thoughts and observations
     
  13. JohnR

    JohnR Member+

    Jun 23, 2000
    Chicago, IL
    5' 10"

    You can sneer all you want, but a 5' 10" 11 year old soccer player is a strange thing. (Go to a U12 game sometime and try to find a field player at 5' 10".)

    I'll bet you that if you find some list of the top 100 soccer players in world history (goalkeepers aside), you won't find one of them that was 5' 10" at 11 years old. Maybe not even 5' 8".

    Is there any limit to your credulity? If an immigrant player came to the U.S., was 6' 2", had three kids and college degree, and had a birth certificate saying he was a U9, would you say, gosh well there are 6' 2" 9 year olds, we had one in my school, plus he has a birth certificate?

    Yeah, you probably would, if the player was good.
     
  14. sch2383

    sch2383 New Member

    Feb 14, 2003
    Northern Virginia
    If he is 5'10" at 11, then he is playing the wrong sport.
     
  15. American40

    American40 Member

    Jan 9, 2003
    Hell, a 5'10" 11 year old period is a strange thing!
     
  16. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    Raleigh NC
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I hate to say it, but I'm leaning JohnR's way on this. That height has got to put him in the top .1%, or higher, for his age. I mean, I did see some kids who were 5'10" or close to it playing little league baseball, but they were ALL 12s.

    A point I've made about Freddy is that while he's toward the right of the fat part of the bell curve, he's definitely in the fat part. You can't say that about his brother. When I saw Freddy, I said, if you put a gun to my head, I'd say he looks 14. I can definitely believe he's 13. If (HUGE IF!!!) I read of a 12 year old who was 5'10", that's on the skinny part of the bell curve, but it doesn't really define the far right edge. But an 11? It happens that kids hit their growth spurt when they're 12. Not common, but not freakishly rare. But 11?

    I guess now I'll entertain the possibility that Freddy II is 12 or 13, and Freddy I a normal 14 or a slightly small 15. Which means I'm entertaining the possibility that there's a bit less room for growth in Freddy I's game.

    Is he really truly ooly 5'10"? Man, he *is* playing the wrong sport.
     
  17. NSlander

    NSlander Member

    Feb 28, 2000
    LA CA
    Yeah, my best friend in 6th grade was 6'2''; he played in goal. Come to think of it, he was also an exceptional student, and he was born across town,,,,,,,there's no way.

    So now I've come to the inevitable conclusion that my best pal in grade school was in actuality a 26- year old grad student, working on a thesis on child-development.

    How could have I been so blind?
     
  18. Etienne_72772

    Etienne_72772 Member+

    Oct 14, 1999
    That does seem feakishly huge for an 11 year old. But what I want to know, and this effects me directly--what is the growth potential for a 5'9" 30 year old?
     
  19. JohnR

    JohnR Member+

    Jun 23, 2000
    Chicago, IL
    Amazing People

    Hmmm, funny, one of my best friends in school was also the tallest kid in 6th grade and was also an exceptional student. (He went onto grad school in engineering and now works for Microsoft.)

    Guess what! Even though he was 12 -- not 11 -- he was no taller than Fredua is now, about 5' 10". (He's now a 6' 6" adult.) Guess what! Even though he was damn smart, he was at his own grade level.

    Guess what! He couldn't really move -- like every other really tall kid in existence.

    Guess what! It's not only skeptical me who is in disbelief on this subject. It is every authority in existence. You think the Adus play 3 years up in soccer only because they're good? (Which they are, for sure. But they weren't the first good players ever to hit USSF, and you sure as hell didn't see Beasley & Donovan playing 3 years up.) Nope. USSF is worried that the birthdate thing will bite it so it's playing things safe by building a big cushion of safety into where it places the Adus. You think the Adus are 2 years up in school because they're Doogie Howser I and II? No, it's because the schools figured, what the hell, they're good students and they're probably older than their classmates anyway, so let's move them up.

    Talk is cheap, but actions are meaningful. USSF and the school system told you what they think through their actions.
     
  20. JohnR

    JohnR Member+

    Jun 23, 2000
    Chicago, IL
    Growth Potential

    2 pounds per year.
     
  21. csh2000

    csh2000 New Member

    Nov 2, 2000
    Chicago
    Some people grow early.

    I think I was 5'10" in sixth grade. My doctor predicted about 6'6" or 6'7" for me at that point, but I ended up at 6'3".
     
  22. cl_hanley

    cl_hanley New Member

    Sep 3, 2001
    Costa Mesa
    Ahhh...so you are younger than you actually think you are. And you thought you could get away with it.
     
  23. ripmstr

    ripmstr New Member

    Sep 7, 2000
    Orlando Fl
    Re: 5' 10"

    One of the kids I coach on my U12 team is 5'10'' and always has is pass double checked, along with comments made by opposing coaches and parents.
     
  24. JohnR

    JohnR Member+

    Jun 23, 2000
    Chicago, IL
    Re: 5' 10"

    Right. A rare occurrence indeed.

    We had a 5' 4" U10 player. Turned 10 years old right after the August 1st date. Saw dozens of U10 teams, he was always bigger than any of the opposition. Was about 5' 7", 5' 8" as an 11 year old, again bigger than any U11s that his team ever encountered.

    He doesn't play anymore. Kid has bad knees; doctor says that's from growing so fast at such an early age. Doctor was quite concerned about the boy's height, and regarded it as both highly unusual and a medical concern.
     
  25. RevsRule

    RevsRule Member+

    NE Revs, LAFC
    Jun 9, 1999
    N. Eastern, Mass
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Hate to be the first to tell you but the only thing that will get bigger is your pants size form here on out
     

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