hypothetical world cup draw

Discussion in 'World Cup 2010: General' started by bigshow, Oct 20, 2009.

  1. GoodDead

    GoodDead Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 8, 2004
    Toronto Canada
    Club:
    Sporting Braga
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    Re: what time is the wc draw?

    That's rediculous how are England and Portugal supposed to have a shoot out in the group stage?

    We'd need our game to be last and to be tied in every aspect while both being second in the group to Cameroon or S.K.
     
  2. Gold is the Colour

    Dec 17, 2005
    Perth Australia
    Club:
    Perth Glory
    Nat'l Team:
    Australia
    Re: what time is the wc draw?

    Or maybe you just have to wait until the final;)
     
  3. zlz_deutschland_zlz

    zlz_deutschland_zlz New Member

    Oct 19, 2009
    NEWYORK n DUSSELDORF
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    marighand?you post group c mexico will first?and germany second?denmark is out?i think mexico will be third or even last of group,germany will 1st,denmark 2nd.period!
     
  4. GoodDead

    GoodDead Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 8, 2004
    Toronto Canada
    Club:
    Sporting Braga
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    Re: what time is the wc draw?

    We have a better chance in a group stage :eek::D
     
  5. essie

    essie Member

    May 4, 2007
    Mission Viejo
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Bolds are group winners while italics are runners-up

    A: South Africa, Serbia, Japan, Honduras
    B: Italy, Paraguay, Switzerland, Algeria
    C: England, Chile, Slovakia, South Korea
    D: France, Ghana, Greece, North Korea
    E: Argentina, Cote D'Ivoire, Slovenia, New Zealand
    F: Brazil, Australia, Portugal, Denmark
    G: Germany, USA, Uruguay, Cameroon
    H: Spain, Nigeria, Mexico, Netherlands

    Serbia - Paraguay (1-0 in extra time)
    Italy - Japan (2-1)
    England - France (3-1)
    Ghana - Slovakia (2-1 in extra time)
    Cote D'Ivoire - Denmark (4-3)
    Argentina - Brazil (0-2)
    Germany - Spain (1-0)
    Netherlands - Cameroon (3-2)

    Serbia - England (0-2)
    Italy - Ghana (0-0 won on penalties)
    Cote D'Ivoire - Germany (2-1)
    Brazil - Netherlands (1-0 in extra time)

    England - Italy (2-3 on penalties)
    Brazil - Cote D'Ivoire (4-5 on penalties)

    Italy - Cote D'Ivoire (1-0 after extra time)

    Everyone maybe freaking out that I went with Italy and Cote D'Ivoire for the final. Italy often sneaks through and it is very possible that it happens again. Cote D'Ivoire, bar any injuries, realisticly could make the final, and I for one wouldn't be too suprised.

    Top Scorers

    Drogba 6
    Nilmar 4
    Fabiano 4
    Lampard 4

    Golden Ball: Didier Drogba
    Silver: Andrea Pirlo
    Bronze: Gigi Buffon
     
  6. Gold is the Colour

    Dec 17, 2005
    Perth Australia
    Club:
    Perth Glory
    Nat'l Team:
    Australia
    Groups F and G cannot happen - There must be 1 (only) Euro grouped with a seed, you have 2 (Portugal and Denmark) in F and none in G
     
  7. JLSA

    JLSA Member

    Nov 11, 2003
    Which is a relief - cos we'd be lucky to finish 4th in that group.

    J
     
  8. Timanfaya

    Timanfaya Member+

    May 31, 2005
    Southampton
    Unless FIFA decide differently this time.

    OK, they probably won't, but there's nothing to stop them.
     
  9. jonny63

    jonny63 Member+

    Feb 17, 2005
    Norway
    ZURICH (AP)—FIFA has yet to select a formula to seed the 32 World Cup qualifiers for the finals draw.

    Football’s world governing body said Thursday that the decision will be taken two days before the Dec. 4 draw in Cape Town, South Africa, by a panel composed mainly of FIFA executive committee members.

    “The procedure of the final draw will be decided at the bureau of the organizing committee for the 2010 World Cup,” FIFA said in a statement.

    FIFA was criticized by European playoff contender Ireland when it confirmed in September—more than a year after matches began—that the eight nations advancing to the final qualifying stage would be seeded.

    The Irish said that the late decision was designed to protect the chances of higher-ranked nations, including France and Portugal, by keeping them apart in the draw. France eventually knocked out Ireland on a disputed goal in extra time of Wednesday’s second leg.

    The draw for the final tournament will allocate 32 nations into eight playing groups of four teams. Groups are headed by a top-seeded team with others drawn from each of three seeded tiers.

    Host South Africa will automatically be a top-seeded team despite being No. 85 in the FIFA world rankings last month.

    The organizing committee’s bureau must choose a formula to rank the other 31 teams. It is chaired by African football president Issa Hayatou of Cameroon and includes nine of his FIFA executive colleagues plus South African officials Irvin Khoza and Danny Jordaan.

    At past World Cup draws, the formula has combined rankings averaged over the three previous years with performance at the two or three previous tournaments.

    Nine of the current top 10 nations have progressed with only seven top seedings available to them.

    Traditional powers like France, the Netherlands or Portugal could drop among eight second-tier nations with the possibility of facing favorite Brazil, European champion Spain or world champion Italy in the opening stage.

    The bottom tier is sure to include outsiders such as Honduras, New Zealand and North Korea, which top nations would expect to beat. However, it could also include Slovakia, which won its qualifying group despite being ranked No. 53 last March.

    http://sports.yahoo.com/soccer/news?slug=ap-fifa-wcupseeds&prov=ap&type=lgns
     
  10. wyly

    wyly New Member

    Dec 3, 2003
    Calgary
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    much of that has to do with climate, S Africa WC will be played in winter so it'll be cool and take away the heat and humidity advantage S American teams like Brazil enjoy...this will suit the euro teams

    as well two European countries will get extra support from many locals as 2nd choice after S Africa, England and Netherlands will have many colonial supporters...
     
  11. superfrantheman

    superfrantheman Red Card

    Nov 11, 2006
    Olvidados de Dios
    Club:
    Sporting Cristal Lima
    Nat'l Team:
    Peru
    for some reason i think this will happen

    SOUTHAFRICA__new zealand__uruguay_switzerland
    GERMANY__mexico__nigeria__slovakia
    ARGENTINA__north korea__cameroon__greece
    FRANCE__japon__chile__holland
    ENGLAND__australia__paraguay__slovenia
    BRASIL__south korea__ghana__serbia
    ITALY__honduras__ivory coast__denmark
    SPAIN__us__algeria__portugal
     
  12. superfrantheman

    superfrantheman Red Card

    Nov 11, 2006
    Olvidados de Dios
    Club:
    Sporting Cristal Lima
    Nat'l Team:
    Peru
    so no concacaf, and conmebol in the same group
    all the europeans seed will play europeans on their groups, so BRA, ARG and ZA wont get two europeans.....
    new zealnad for ZA, and the two koreas for BRA and ARG
     
  13. honduran4life

    honduran4life Member

    Jul 2, 2006
    Orlando, FL
    Club:
    CD Marathón
    Nat'l Team:
    Honduras
    it looks likely =/

    group F looks like a real group of death

    but i doubt this ends up as the 8 groups

    we just gotta wait ..not much though ..just 2 weeks & we'll know! i'm taking a day off work to watch the draw
     
  14. Autogolazo

    Autogolazo BigSoccer Supporter

    Feb 19, 2000
    Bombay Beach, CA
    I cut up pieces of paper and put them in a hat. That's my idea of fun on a Thursday evening. Also put the numbers 2-3-4 in another hat.

    With CONMEBOL + CAF in the same Pot:

    SOUTH AFRICA---Holland---Chile---Australia
    ITALY---North Korea---Denmark---Nigeria
    BRAZIL---Honduras---Serbia---Cameroon
    ARGENTINA---Ivory Coast---Slovakia---U.S.A.
    ENGLAND---South Korea---Switzerland---Paraguay
    GERMANY---New Zealand---Uruguay---Slovenia
    SPAIN---Algeria---Mexico---Greece
    FRANCE---Portugal---Ghana---Japan

    With CONCACAF + CAF in the same Pot:

    SOUTH AFRICA---Switzerland---U.S.A.---South Korea
    FRANCE---Serbia---Uruguay---Nigeria
    SPAIN---Slovenia---New Zealand---Ivory Coast
    ENGLAND--Portugal---Algeria---North Korea
    ARGENTINA---Japan---Denmark---Ghana
    ITALY---Greece---Mexico---Paraguay
    BRAZIL---Slovakia---Cameroon---Australia
    GERMANY---Honduras---Chile---Holland
     
  15. Gold is the Colour

    Dec 17, 2005
    Perth Australia
    Club:
    Perth Glory
    Nat'l Team:
    Australia
    Disaster for South Africa (they'd struggle to get anything here IMO) but at least it evens the groups up a bit.
     
  16. Fabio Grosso 2006

    Fabio Grosso 2006 BigSoccer Yellow Card

    Sep 2, 2009
    Club:
    AC Milan
    South Africa, Serbia, Japan, Chile
    Argentina, Slovenia, South Korea, Nigeria
    England, Denmark, North Korea, Paraguay
    Brazil, Slovakia, Australia, Ivory Coast
    France, Portugal, Mexico, Algeria
    Italy, Switzerland, Honduras, Ghana
    Germany, Holland, New Zealand, Cameroon
    Spain, Greece, USA, Uruguay

    South Africa, Serbia
    Argentina, Nigeria
    England, Denmark
    Brazil, Ivory Coast
    France, Portugal
    Italy, Ghana
    Germany, Holland
    Spain, Greece

    South Africa vs Nigeria - South Africa
    Argentina vs Serbia - Argentina
    England vs Ivory Coast - England
    Brazil vs Denmark - Brazil
    France vs Ghana - Ghana
    Italy vs Portugal - Italy
    Germany vs Greece - Germany
    Spain vs Holland - Spain

    South Africa vs Brazil - Brazil
    Argentina vs England - Argentina
    Ghana vs Spain - Spain
    Italy vs Germany - Italy

    Brazil vs Argentina - Argentina
    Spain vs Italy - Italy

    Brazil vs Spain - Spain

    Argentina vs Italy - Argentina
     
  17. DRB300

    DRB300 Member+

    Sep 21, 2007
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    This would result in an early exit of SA dead sure. Everybody is underestimating Australia. Chile has qualified as second in CONMEBOL and can play game. Holland is always pretty good in the group stages, to lose in the knock out.

    Nice draw
     
  18. superfrantheman

    superfrantheman Red Card

    Nov 11, 2006
    Olvidados de Dios
    Club:
    Sporting Cristal Lima
    Nat'l Team:
    Peru
    southafrica-holland-chile-austrlia wont happen

    new zealand will play southafrica, and argentina and brazil the two koreas

    and holland will go to anyone except ZA
     
  19. DRB300

    DRB300 Member+

    Sep 21, 2007
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    How do you know this by the way?
     
  20. holgers_heroes

    Jul 25, 2000
    Toronto
    Club:
    Toronto FC
    I dunno, Holland could end up with South Africa. FIFA has put strong teams in the host group before. If FIFA wanted to ensure that host teams continue advancing past the group stage, they would've given Korea and Japan easy groups in 2002. They may arguably be true for Japan, but Korea wasn't so lucky. The two non-seeded teams no one wanted in 2002 were England and Portugal, and Korea ended up with Portugal.

    I think South Africa will feed off the home crowd quite nicely, but I don't for a second think FIFA will go out of their way to have South Africa avoid Holland.
     
  21. Paco Rodríguez

    Paco Rodríguez New Member

    Oct 25, 2009
    San Luis Potosí Mex
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    I like this one it`s my guessing

    A
    south africa
    slovakia
    uruguay
    north korea

    b
    italy
    switzerland
    ivory coast
    honduras

    c
    argentina
    portugal
    ghana
    usa

    d
    england
    holand
    paraguay
    korea

    e
    brazil
    serbia
    algery
    australia

    f
    france
    greece
    chile
    new zeland

    g
    germany
    denmark
    ghana
    japon

    h
    spain
    slovenia
    camerun
    mexico

    they always protect the host team, as well as brazil , then in my visian is not only a "death group" at least i think there are 3 (c, g, h)
     
  22. schrutebuck

    schrutebuck Member+

    Jul 26, 2007
    A: South Africa, Netherlands, Uruguay, North Korea
    B: England, Slovakia, Ghana, Honduras
    C: Germany, Greece, Paraguay, Mexico
    D: Brazil, Denmark, Nigeria, South Korea
    E: Argentina, Switzerland, Cameroon, New Zealand
    F: France, Slovenia, Ivory Coast, Australia
    G: Spain, Portugal, Chile, United States :eek:
    H: Italy, Serbia, Algeria, Japan

    G = Group of Pain

    Netherlands* vs. Ghana
    Germany* vs. Nigeria
    Cameroon* vs. Australia
    Spain* vs. Serbia

    England* vs. South Africa
    Brazil* vs. Mexico
    Ivory Coast* vs. Argentina
    Italy vs. Chile*

    Netherlands* vs. Germany
    Cameroon vs. Spain*
    England vs. Brazil*
    Ivory Coast vs. Chile*

    Netherlands vs. Spain*
    Brazil* vs. Chile

    Netherlands vs. Chile*

    Final
    Spain vs. Brazil*
     
  23. superfrantheman

    superfrantheman Red Card

    Nov 11, 2006
    Olvidados de Dios
    Club:
    Sporting Cristal Lima
    Nat'l Team:
    Peru
    i think the final will be spain -france and MY IDOLO henry will score the title's goal
     
  24. balla

    balla Member

    Sep 16, 2004
    Melbourne,Australia
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Australia
    With him catching the ball and throwing it overarm into the net?
     
  25. Ganahal

    Ganahal New Member

    Jun 11, 2006
    Nat'l Team:
    Korea Republic
    ur rite, thats not gona happen :rolleyes:
     

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