Re: what time is the wc draw? That's rediculous how are England and Portugal supposed to have a shoot out in the group stage? We'd need our game to be last and to be tied in every aspect while both being second in the group to Cameroon or S.K.
marighand?you post group c mexico will first?and germany second?denmark is out?i think mexico will be third or even last of group,germany will 1st,denmark 2nd.period!
Bolds are group winners while italics are runners-up A: South Africa, Serbia, Japan, Honduras B: Italy, Paraguay, Switzerland, Algeria C: England, Chile, Slovakia, South Korea D: France, Ghana, Greece, North Korea E: Argentina, Cote D'Ivoire, Slovenia, New Zealand F: Brazil, Australia, Portugal, Denmark G: Germany, USA, Uruguay, Cameroon H: Spain, Nigeria, Mexico, Netherlands Serbia - Paraguay (1-0 in extra time) Italy - Japan (2-1) England - France (3-1) Ghana - Slovakia (2-1 in extra time) Cote D'Ivoire - Denmark (4-3) Argentina - Brazil (0-2) Germany - Spain (1-0) Netherlands - Cameroon (3-2) Serbia - England (0-2) Italy - Ghana (0-0 won on penalties) Cote D'Ivoire - Germany (2-1) Brazil - Netherlands (1-0 in extra time) England - Italy (2-3 on penalties) Brazil - Cote D'Ivoire (4-5 on penalties) Italy - Cote D'Ivoire (1-0 after extra time) Everyone maybe freaking out that I went with Italy and Cote D'Ivoire for the final. Italy often sneaks through and it is very possible that it happens again. Cote D'Ivoire, bar any injuries, realisticly could make the final, and I for one wouldn't be too suprised. Top Scorers Drogba 6 Nilmar 4 Fabiano 4 Lampard 4 Golden Ball: Didier Drogba Silver: Andrea Pirlo Bronze: Gigi Buffon
Groups F and G cannot happen - There must be 1 (only) Euro grouped with a seed, you have 2 (Portugal and Denmark) in F and none in G
ZURICH (AP)—FIFA has yet to select a formula to seed the 32 World Cup qualifiers for the finals draw. Football’s world governing body said Thursday that the decision will be taken two days before the Dec. 4 draw in Cape Town, South Africa, by a panel composed mainly of FIFA executive committee members. “The procedure of the final draw will be decided at the bureau of the organizing committee for the 2010 World Cup,” FIFA said in a statement. FIFA was criticized by European playoff contender Ireland when it confirmed in September—more than a year after matches began—that the eight nations advancing to the final qualifying stage would be seeded. The Irish said that the late decision was designed to protect the chances of higher-ranked nations, including France and Portugal, by keeping them apart in the draw. France eventually knocked out Ireland on a disputed goal in extra time of Wednesday’s second leg. The draw for the final tournament will allocate 32 nations into eight playing groups of four teams. Groups are headed by a top-seeded team with others drawn from each of three seeded tiers. Host South Africa will automatically be a top-seeded team despite being No. 85 in the FIFA world rankings last month. The organizing committee’s bureau must choose a formula to rank the other 31 teams. It is chaired by African football president Issa Hayatou of Cameroon and includes nine of his FIFA executive colleagues plus South African officials Irvin Khoza and Danny Jordaan. At past World Cup draws, the formula has combined rankings averaged over the three previous years with performance at the two or three previous tournaments. Nine of the current top 10 nations have progressed with only seven top seedings available to them. Traditional powers like France, the Netherlands or Portugal could drop among eight second-tier nations with the possibility of facing favorite Brazil, European champion Spain or world champion Italy in the opening stage. The bottom tier is sure to include outsiders such as Honduras, New Zealand and North Korea, which top nations would expect to beat. However, it could also include Slovakia, which won its qualifying group despite being ranked No. 53 last March. http://sports.yahoo.com/soccer/news?slug=ap-fifa-wcupseeds&prov=ap&type=lgns
much of that has to do with climate, S Africa WC will be played in winter so it'll be cool and take away the heat and humidity advantage S American teams like Brazil enjoy...this will suit the euro teams as well two European countries will get extra support from many locals as 2nd choice after S Africa, England and Netherlands will have many colonial supporters...
for some reason i think this will happen SOUTHAFRICA__new zealand__uruguay_switzerland GERMANY__mexico__nigeria__slovakia ARGENTINA__north korea__cameroon__greece FRANCE__japon__chile__holland ENGLAND__australia__paraguay__slovenia BRASIL__south korea__ghana__serbia ITALY__honduras__ivory coast__denmark SPAIN__us__algeria__portugal
so no concacaf, and conmebol in the same group all the europeans seed will play europeans on their groups, so BRA, ARG and ZA wont get two europeans..... new zealnad for ZA, and the two koreas for BRA and ARG
it looks likely =/ group F looks like a real group of death but i doubt this ends up as the 8 groups we just gotta wait ..not much though ..just 2 weeks & we'll know! i'm taking a day off work to watch the draw
I cut up pieces of paper and put them in a hat. That's my idea of fun on a Thursday evening. Also put the numbers 2-3-4 in another hat. With CONMEBOL + CAF in the same Pot: SOUTH AFRICA---Holland---Chile---Australia ITALY---North Korea---Denmark---Nigeria BRAZIL---Honduras---Serbia---Cameroon ARGENTINA---Ivory Coast---Slovakia---U.S.A. ENGLAND---South Korea---Switzerland---Paraguay GERMANY---New Zealand---Uruguay---Slovenia SPAIN---Algeria---Mexico---Greece FRANCE---Portugal---Ghana---Japan With CONCACAF + CAF in the same Pot: SOUTH AFRICA---Switzerland---U.S.A.---South Korea FRANCE---Serbia---Uruguay---Nigeria SPAIN---Slovenia---New Zealand---Ivory Coast ENGLAND--Portugal---Algeria---North Korea ARGENTINA---Japan---Denmark---Ghana ITALY---Greece---Mexico---Paraguay BRAZIL---Slovakia---Cameroon---Australia GERMANY---Honduras---Chile---Holland
Disaster for South Africa (they'd struggle to get anything here IMO) but at least it evens the groups up a bit.
South Africa, Serbia, Japan, Chile Argentina, Slovenia, South Korea, Nigeria England, Denmark, North Korea, Paraguay Brazil, Slovakia, Australia, Ivory Coast France, Portugal, Mexico, Algeria Italy, Switzerland, Honduras, Ghana Germany, Holland, New Zealand, Cameroon Spain, Greece, USA, Uruguay South Africa, Serbia Argentina, Nigeria England, Denmark Brazil, Ivory Coast France, Portugal Italy, Ghana Germany, Holland Spain, Greece South Africa vs Nigeria - South Africa Argentina vs Serbia - Argentina England vs Ivory Coast - England Brazil vs Denmark - Brazil France vs Ghana - Ghana Italy vs Portugal - Italy Germany vs Greece - Germany Spain vs Holland - Spain South Africa vs Brazil - Brazil Argentina vs England - Argentina Ghana vs Spain - Spain Italy vs Germany - Italy Brazil vs Argentina - Argentina Spain vs Italy - Italy Brazil vs Spain - Spain Argentina vs Italy - Argentina
This would result in an early exit of SA dead sure. Everybody is underestimating Australia. Chile has qualified as second in CONMEBOL and can play game. Holland is always pretty good in the group stages, to lose in the knock out. Nice draw
southafrica-holland-chile-austrlia wont happen new zealand will play southafrica, and argentina and brazil the two koreas and holland will go to anyone except ZA
I dunno, Holland could end up with South Africa. FIFA has put strong teams in the host group before. If FIFA wanted to ensure that host teams continue advancing past the group stage, they would've given Korea and Japan easy groups in 2002. They may arguably be true for Japan, but Korea wasn't so lucky. The two non-seeded teams no one wanted in 2002 were England and Portugal, and Korea ended up with Portugal. I think South Africa will feed off the home crowd quite nicely, but I don't for a second think FIFA will go out of their way to have South Africa avoid Holland.
I like this one it`s my guessing A south africa slovakia uruguay north korea b italy switzerland ivory coast honduras c argentina portugal ghana usa d england holand paraguay korea e brazil serbia algery australia f france greece chile new zeland g germany denmark ghana japon h spain slovenia camerun mexico they always protect the host team, as well as brazil , then in my visian is not only a "death group" at least i think there are 3 (c, g, h)
A: South Africa, Netherlands, Uruguay, North Korea B: England, Slovakia, Ghana, Honduras C: Germany, Greece, Paraguay, Mexico D: Brazil, Denmark, Nigeria, South Korea E: Argentina, Switzerland, Cameroon, New Zealand F: France, Slovenia, Ivory Coast, Australia G: Spain, Portugal, Chile, United States H: Italy, Serbia, Algeria, Japan G = Group of Pain Netherlands* vs. Ghana Germany* vs. Nigeria Cameroon* vs. Australia Spain* vs. Serbia England* vs. South Africa Brazil* vs. Mexico Ivory Coast* vs. Argentina Italy vs. Chile* Netherlands* vs. Germany Cameroon vs. Spain* England vs. Brazil* Ivory Coast vs. Chile* Netherlands vs. Spain* Brazil* vs. Chile Netherlands vs. Chile* Final Spain vs. Brazil*