Hypothetical Knockout Rounds based on Libertadores Seeding

SJJ · Dec 13, 2014

This is what the knockout rounds would look like if UEFA used the CONMEBOL Libertadores seeding, where the group winners are seeded #1 to #8, the second-place teams are seeded #9 to #16, and a fixed-bracket is set up. Thus, there would be no draws for the final-16.

First the data of seeds:

seed grp winner ctry +/- Pts

1 B Real Madrid CF ESP 14 18

2 E FC Bayern München DEU 12 15

3 F FC Barcelona ESP 10 15

4 G Chelsea FC ENG 14 14

5 H FC Porto POR 12 14

6 A Club Atlético de Madrid ESP 11 13

7 D Borussia Dortmund DEU 10 13

8 C AS Monaco FC FRA 3 11

seed grp second ctry F A +/- Pts Ag W Aw Coef

9 D Arsenal FC ENG 15 8 7 13

10 F Paris Saint-Germain FRA 10 7 3 13

11 A Juventus ITA 7 4 3 10 2 3 1 80.387

12 C Bayer 04 Leverkusen DEU 7 4 3 10 2 3 1 70.328

13 H FC Shakhtar Donetsk UKR 15 4 11 9

14 E Manchester City FC ENG 9 8 1 8

15 G FC Schalke 04 DEU 9 14 -5 8

16 B FC Basel 1893 SUI 7 8 -1 7

Amazingly, there is a tie for seed #11, which got broken by going all the down to the teams' coefficient points going into the competition. I used the same rules as listed for seeding the third-place teams foe Europa League seeding:

7.08 The four best third-ranked teams are seeded for the UEFA Europa League round of 32. This ranking is determined in accordance with the following criteria (in descending order):
a) higher number of points obtained in the group matches
b) superior goal difference
c) higher number of goals scored
d) higher number of away goals scored
e) higher number of wins
f) higher number of away wins
g) higher number of coefficient points accumulated by the club in question, as well as its association, over the previous five seasons (see paragraph 9.02).

The brackets would be:

Round of 16

#1 Real Madrid *Esp -v- #16 Basel *Sui

#2 Bayern München *Deu -v- #15 Schalke *Deu

#3 Barcelona *Esp -v- #14 Manchester City *Eng

#4 Chelsea *Eng -v- #13 Shakhtar Donetsk *Ukr

#5 Porto *Por -v- #12 Bayer Leverkusen *Deu

#6 Atlético Madrid *Esp -v- #11 Juventus *Ita

#7 Borussia Dortmund *Deu -v- #10 Paris Saint-Germain *Fra

#8 Monaco *Fra -v- #9 Arsenal *Eng

Note that the (#2 -v- #15) matchup has teams from the same association. And both the (#1 -v- #16) and (#6 -v- #11) matchups have teams from the same groups. Either you accept these as "just how the seeds fall" or you put in complex rules to overcome these cases.

Quarterfinals

(#1 Real Madrid *Esp -v- #16 Basel *Sui) -v- (#8 Monaco *Fra -v- #9 Arsenal *Eng)

(#2 Bayern München *Deu -v- #15 Schalke *Deu) -v- (#7 Borussia Dortmund *Deu -v- #10 Paris Saint-Germain *Fra)

(#3 Barcelona *Esp -v- #14 Manchester City *Eng) -v- (#6 Atlético Madrid *Esp -v- #11 Juventus *Ita)

(#4 Chelsea *Eng -v- #13 Shakhtar Donetsk *Ukr) -v- (#5 Porto *Por -v- #12 Bayer Leverkusen *Deu)

Semifinals

(#1 Real Madrid *Esp -v- #16 Basel *Sui -v- #8 Monaco *Fra -v- #9 Arsenal *Eng) -v- (#4 Chelsea *Eng -v- #13 Shakhtar Donetsk *Ukr -v- #5 Porto *Por -v- #12 Bayer Leverkusen *Deu)

(#2 Bayern München *Deu -v- #15 Schalke *Deu -v- #7 Borussia Dortmund *Deu -v- #10 Paris Saint-Germain *Fra) -v- (#3 Barcelona *Esp -v- #14 Manchester City *Eng -v- #6 Atlético Madrid *Esp -v- #11 Juventus *Ita)

I submitted the same concept for the knockout rounds for the FIFA World Cup: http://forums.bigsoccer.com/threads...rounds-based-on-libertadores-seeding.2007675/

BSjanitor · Dec 14, 2014

Thanks for posting this.

I personally do not like the way conmebol does the knockout rounds for libertadores. why?
1) Clubs from the same group facing each other again immediately.
2) Clubs from the same country butting heads before other countries have a chance to eliminate them.
3) The clubs only played inside their groups, so it makes no sense to rank them against each other this early in the tournament. In your example, Man. City had a much harder group than Arsenal or PSG, so it's normal that they have less points at the end of the group stage.
4) a draw keeps it more exciting. right now we know there's 49 possible match combinations for the knockout rounds.

SJJ · Dec 14, 2014

There are cases where teams are ranked across groups. A 24-team (6-group) tournament can have "four best third-place teams" advance. Euro Championship qualifying has had "best second-place team qualifies; other second-place teams enter a playoff."

I do wish there was a way to temper the "group of death" scenarios in group-stage draws. But no-one seems to want to devise a way, so it goes back to "that's the way the Ping-Pong balls drop." There is a small bit of griping in these cases, but general acceptance. (So why is it accepted in blind draws, but wouldn't be accepted based on actual game results?)

This year there were a lot of cases of "team already qualified," or "would need a super-human effort to win the group." In my case, a team can increase their seed without having to actually finish first. This year, Monaco is a surprise group winner, but is the lowest-seed of the winners; didn't Arsenal earn the right to play the "worst" of the winners? (Arsenal would even be #8 if you put the 16 teams into "one table.")

My draw has (Barca -v- City) as an "A+" matchup, and I would also want to watch (BvB -v- PSG) [that almost rhymes]. And if the seeds would hold, the final four would be a juicy set of (Real -v- Chelsea) and (Bayern -v- Barca).

My other question about draws, is why there has be separate draws for every round of every competition. The UCL can draw the entire last-16 at one sitting; no separate QF and SF draws. The FA Cup can draw the entire last-64 into one large American-NCAA-style bracket. (And as an aside, I had even suggested that the top 16 EPL teams get separated for the R-64 and R-32.) I see even the Europa League has a separate draw for the R-16 this year; previously the R-32 and R-16 were done together.

EvanJ · Dec 14, 2014

SJJ said: ↑

My other question about draws, is why there has be separate draws for every round of every competition. The UCL can draw the entire last-16 at one sitting; no separate QF and SF draws. The FA Cup can draw the entire last-64 into one large American-NCAA-style bracket. (And as an aside, I had even suggested that the top 16 EPL teams get separated for the R-64 and R-32.) I see even the Europa League has a separate draw for the R-16 this year; previously the R-32 and R-16 were done together.
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I'm used to draws in soccer even though American professional sports leagues don't have them. I agree that I wish all the rounds were drawn together. I wonder if the English FA has any idea how many Americans make NCAA Men's Basketball Tournament brackets (which I've won money from twice).

SJJ · Dec 15, 2014

SJJ said: ↑

My draw has (Barca -v- City) as an "A+" matchup
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Called it!

PaulieJay · Dec 15, 2014

EvanJ said: ↑

I'm used to draws in soccer even though American professional sports leagues don't have them. I agree that I wish all the rounds were drawn together. I wonder if the English FA has any idea how many Americans make NCAA Men's Basketball Tournament brackets (which I've won money from twice).
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As long as seeds were not applied I would love to see this for all soccer tournaments. Obviously the World cup uses this to some degree and you are able to foresee the opponents you may play in future rounds. It's something that gets people talking. I remember Colin Cowherd talking about how the US was in a favorable position after the group stage because "Belgium doesn't scare me, Argentina hasn't been very impressive...Don't have to worry about Germany or Brazil until the final and by then you get your star back in Altidore". Obviously I will discount the ridiculousness of any of his assertions and chalk it up to a simple lack of familiarity with the sport outside of the WC, and call it a wash since I appreciate that so many in the US sports media mainstream are TRYING to understand and analyze. Even though us insiders to the sport know how off-base they are with just about everything, unlike most hardcore soccer fans in the US, I always appreciate the effort these days. Since there are no restrictions after the R16 about playing teams from your own country or group, I can't understand why they don't do the entire draw in December.

fridge46 · Dec 28, 2014

There has been one instance when the entire draw was done in one go: 1999-2000 Worthington (League) Cup.

The article states: "If it proves popular, it will be used again next year and may prove to be a blueprint for flagging cup competitions worldwide". So obviously it didnt prove popular.

I for one like individual draws, and I think most fans/teams do too. It makes more of a spectacle of the competition, and can be somewhat exciting seeing your non-league team pulled out of the hat/bowl/bag against the big guns.

The reason why the World Cup, NCAA, etc... have the entire bracket set at the beginning is because these tournaments take place in a short window. The World Cup is only a month long, and each team plays every 4 days or so. Having a draw to determine who plays who, where and when on short notice would be a logistical nightmare for the teams, officials and fans involved.

UEFA/FA/Soccer in general gets away with it because there is 2-3 weeks between rounds.

SJJ · Dec 29, 2014

So they had a single "drawathon," but they still held draws after each round for home-away, which, if they had really wanted, could have also been done at once. I didn't realize that this "revolutionary lottery" was such a "mammoth effort" that they had to distribute all those blank draw sheets.

BocaFan · Dec 29, 2014

SJJ said: ↑

This year, Monaco is a surprise group winner, but is the lowest-seed of the winners; didn't Arsenal earn the right to play the "worst" of the winners? (Arsenal would even be #8 if you put the 16 teams into "one table.")
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In my opinion, NO. Arsenal had one of the weakest CL groups ever!

BSjanitor said: ↑

Thanks for posting this.

I personally do not like the way conmebol does the knockout rounds for libertadores. why?
1) Clubs from the same group facing each other again immediately.
2) Clubs from the same country butting heads before other countries have a chance to eliminate them.
3) The clubs only played inside their groups, so it makes no sense to rank them against each other this early in the tournament. In your example, Man. City had a much harder group than Arsenal or PSG, so it's normal that they have less points at the end of the group stage.
4) a draw keeps it more exciting. right now we know there's 49 possible match combinations for the knockout rounds.
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#5) An easy group stage draw doesn't perpetuate itself throughout the tournament. In the Copa Libertadores format, if you get an easy group you are also more likely to get easier knockout stage opponents (not such an issue in CONMEBOL because of the high degree of parity, but it would be a problem for the UEFA CL).

BocaFan · Dec 29, 2014

fridge46 said: ↑

I for one like individual draws, and I think most fans/teams do too. It makes more of a spectacle of the competition, and can be somewhat exciting seeing your non-league team pulled out of the hat/bowl/bag against the big guns.
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Yup. Individual draws also make it more unpredictable. The Spanish Copa del Rey does one giant draw when there are 32 teams left in the Cup. A couple of years ago Madrid and Barcelona were drawn in-to the same quadrant of the bracket so it was painfully obvious that they would meet in the quarterfinal, after both teams trample a couple of minnows in the first two rounds.

Yawn.

A similar thing happened again this season except that Atletico Madrid also got drawn into the same quadrant as both Real Madrid and Barcelona. So at least this time we don't know what the exact match-up will be months in advance, only that it will be Barcelona versus Madrid or Atletico.

EvanJ · Dec 30, 2014

BocaFan said: ↑

Yup. Individual draws also make it more unpredictable. The Spanish Copa del Rey does one giant draw when there are 32 teams left in the Cup. A couple of years ago Madrid and Barcelona were drawn in-to the same quadrant of the bracket so it was painfully obvious that they would meet in the quarterfinal, after both teams trample a couple of minnows in the first two rounds.

Yawn.

A similar thing happened again this season except that Atletico Madrid also got drawn into the same quadrant as both Real Madrid and Barcelona. So at least this time we don't know what the exact match-up will be months in advance, only that it will be Barcelona versus Madrid or Atletico.
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In 2011-2012, Manchester City hosted Manchester United in the Third Round (Round of 64) of the FA Cup. They finished tied on points with Manchester City winning the Premier League on goal differential. Third place Arsenal was 0.5 points per game behind.

SJJ · Sep 29, 2015

It was fun re-reading the comments on this thread. I rebuilt my spreadsheet, to see how the hypothetical seedings / pairings would work after each matchday. This one has a bit in it, given I included all groups from both the UCL and UEL. In each table, I included the tie-breakers used for dividing the UCL third-place teams into top-4 and bottom-4 (up to the point where their is a difference in teams; so some of the tie-break numbers "just end" in these lists).

In this first matchday, of course half of the teams don't have a road game, so their "Away Goals For" and "Away Wins" columns are zero. And the "Disciplinary" column gives three points per red, one point per yellow, so the lower number wins a tie-break.

CHAMPIONS LEAGUE, MATCH DAY ONE

UCL place #1 grp ctry Pts +/- Gf Agf W Aw disp Coef

1 Real Madrid CF A ESP 3 4 4 0 1 0 0

2 Chelsea FC G ENG 3 4 4 0 1 0 1

3 Bayer 04 Leverkusen E DEU 3 3 4

4 FC Bayern Munchen F DEU 3 3 3 3

5 Sevilla FC D ESP 3 3 3 0

6 Club Atletico de Madrid C ESP 3 2

7 FC Zenit H RUS 3 1 3

8 PSV Eindhoven B NED 3 1 2

UCL place #2 grp ctry Pts +/- Gf Agf W Aw disp Coef

9 Paris Saint-Germain A FRA 3 2 2 0 1 0 2

10 SL Benfica C POR 3 2 2 0 1 0 3

11 Juventus D ITA 3 1 2 2

12 GNK Dinamo Zagreb F CRO 3 1 2 0 1 0 3

13 VfL Wolfsburg B DEU 3 1 1 0 1 0 0

14 FC Porto G POR 1 0 2

15 FC Barcelona E ESP 1 0 1 1 0 0 1

16 Olympique Lyonnais H FRA 1 0 1 1 0 0 3

UCL Round of 16

#1 Real Madrid *Esp -v- #16 Olympique Lyonnais *Fra

#2 Chelsea *Eng -v- #15 Barcelona *Esp

#3 Bayer Leverkusen *Deu -v- #14 Porto *Por

#4 Bayern Munchen *Deu -v- #13 VfL Wolfsburg *Deu

#5 Sevilla *Esp -v- #12 GNK Dinamo Zagreb *Cro

#6 Atletico Madrid *Esp -v- #11 Juventus *Ita

#7 Zenit *Rus -v- #10 SL Benfica *Por

#8 PSV Eindhoven *Ned -v- #9 Paris Saint-Germain *Fra

UCL Quarterfinals

(#1 Real Madrid *Esp -v- #16 Olympique Lyonnais *Fra) -v- (#8 PSV Eindhoven *Ned -v- #9 Paris Saint-Germain *Fra)

(#2 Chelsea *Eng -v- #15 Barcelona *Esp) -v- (#7 Zenit *Rus -v- #10 SL Benfica *Por)

(#3 Bayer Leverkusen *Deu -v- #14 Porto *Por) -v- (#6 Atletico Madrid *Esp -v- #11 Juventus *Ita)

(#4 Bayern Munchen *Deu -v- #13 VfL Wolfsburg *Deu) -v- (#5 Sevilla *Esp -v- #12 GNK Dinamo Zagreb *Cro)

UCL Semifinals

(#1 Real Madrid *Esp -v- #16 Olympique Lyonnais *Fra -v- #8 PSV Eindhoven *Ned -v- #9 Paris Saint-Germain *Fra) -v- (#4 Bayern Munchen *Deu -v- #13 VfL Wolfsburg *Deu -v- #5 Sevilla *Esp -v- #12 GNK Dinamo Zagreb *Cro)

(#2 Chelsea *Eng -v- #15 Barcelona *Esp -v- #7 Zenit *Rus -v- #10 SL Benfica *Por) -v- (#3 Bayer Leverkusen *Deu -v- #14 Porto *Por -v- #6 Atletico Madrid *Esp -v- #11 Juventus *Ita)

UCL Final

(#1 Real Madrid *Esp -v- #16 Olympique Lyonnais *Fra -v- #8 PSV Eindhoven *Ned -v- #9 Paris Saint-Germain *Fra -v- #4 Bayern Munchen *Deu -v- #13 VfL Wolfsburg *Deu -v- #5 Sevilla *Esp -v- #12 GNK Dinamo Zagreb *Cro) -v- (#2 Chelsea *Eng -v- #15 Barcelona *Esp -v- #7 Zenit *Rus -v- #10 SL Benfica *Por -v- #3 Bayer Leverkusen *Deu -v- #14 Porto *Por -v- #6 Atletico Madrid *Esp -v- #11 Juventus *Ita)

UCL place #3 grp ctry Pts +/- Gf Agf W Aw disp Coef

17 FC Dynamo Kyiv G UKR 1 0 2

18 AS Roma E ITA 1 0 1 0 0 0 1

19 KAA Gent H BEL 1 0 1 0 0 0 7

20 Manchester United FC B ENG 0 -1 1 1 0 0 1

21 Arsenal FC F ENG 0 -1 1 1 0 0 6

22 Manchester City FC D ENG 0 -1 1 0

23 Galatasaray AS C TUR 0 -2 0 0 0 0 2 50.020

24 Malmo FF A SWE 0 -2 0 0 0 0 2 12.545

UCL place #4 grp ctry Pts +/- Gf Agf W Aw disp Coef

25 Valencia CF H ESP 0 -1 2

26 PFC CSKA Moskva B RUS 0 -1 0

27 FC Astana C KAZ 0 -2 0

28 FC BATE Borisov E BLR 0 -3 1

29 Olympiacos FC F GRE 0 -3 0 0 0 0 3 62.380

30 VfL Borussia Monchengladbach D DEU 0 -3 0 0 0 0 3 33.883

31 Maccabi Tel-Aviv FC G ISR 0 -4 0 0 0 0 3

32 FC Shakhtar Donetsk A UKR 0 -4 0 0 0 0 8

EUROPA LEAGUE, MATCH DAY ONE

UEL place #1 grp ctry Pts +/- Gf Agf W Aw disp Coef

1 SSC Napoli D ITA 3 5 5

2 FC Schalke 04 K DEU 3 3 3 3 1 1 2 111.883

3 Olympique de Marseille F FRA 3 3 3 3 1 1 2 55.483

4 FC Lokomotiv Moskva H RUS 3 2 3 3 1 1 3

5 Molde FK A NOR 3 2 3 3 1 1 5

6 Tottenham Hotspur FC J ENG 3 2 3 0 1 0 1

7 Athletic Club Bilbao L ESP 3 2 3 0 1 0 2

8 FC Viktoria Plzen E CZE 3 2 2 0

9 FC Basel 1893 I SUI 3 1 2 2

10 Borussia Dortmund C DEU 3 1 2 0 1 0 2

11 FC Sion B SUI 3 1 2 0 1 0 3

12 AS Saint-Etienne G FRA 1

UEL place #2 grp ctry Pts +/- Gf Agf W Aw disp Coef

13 FK Partizan L SRB 3 1 3

14 SK Rapid Wien E AUT 3 1 2

15 Besiktas JK H TUR 3 1 1 1 1 1 2

16 SC Braga F POR 3 1 1 1 1 1 3

17 FC Midtjylland D DEN 3 1 1 0

18 Rosenborg BK G NOR 1 0 2 2

19 AFC Ajax A NED 1 0 2 0

20 Liverpool FC B ENG 1 0 1 1 0 0 1

21 AC Sparta Praha K CZE 1 0 1 1 0 0 7

22 RSC Anderlecht J BEL 1 0 1

23 PAOK FC C GRE 1 0 0 0 0 0 2

24 KKS Lech Poznan I POL 1 0 0 0 0 0 3

Hypothetical Europa League bracket. Seeds #1 to #8 are from the UCL, seeds #9 to #32 are from the UEL.

UEL Round of 32

#1 Dynamo Kyiv *Ukr -v- #32 KKS Lech Poznan *Pol

#2 Roma *Ita -v- #31 PAOK *Gre

#3 KAA Gent *Bel -v- #30 RSC Anderlecht *Bel

#4 Manchester United *Eng -v- #29 AC Sparta Praha *Cze

#5 Arsenal *Eng -v- #28 Liverpool *Eng

#6 Manchester City *Eng -v- #27 AFC Ajax *Ned

#7 Galatasaray AS *Tur -v- #26 Rosenborg BK *Nor

#8 Malmo FF *Swe -v- #25 FC Midtjylland *Den

#9 SSC Napoli *Ita -v- #24 SC Braga *Por

#10 Schalke *Deu -v- #23 Besiktas JK *Tur

#11 Olympique Marseille *Fra -v- #22 SK Rapid Wien *Aut

#12 Lokomotiv Moskva *Rus -v- #21 FK Partizan *Srb

#13 Molde FK *Nor -v- #20 Saint-Etienne *Fra

#14 Tottenham Hotspur *Eng -v- #19 Sion *Sui

#15 Athletic Bilbao *Esp -v- #18 Borussia Dortmund *Deu

#16 Viktoria Plzen *Cze -v- #17 Basel *Sui

UEL Round of 16

(#1 Dynamo Kyiv *Ukr -v- #32 KKS Lech Poznan *Pol) -v- (#16 Viktoria Plzen *Cze -v- #17 Basel *Sui)

(#2 Roma *Ita -v- #31 PAOK *Gre) -v- (#15 Athletic Bilbao *Esp -v- #18 Borussia Dortmund *Deu)

(#3 KAA Gent *Bel -v- #30 RSC Anderlecht *Bel) -v- (#14 Tottenham Hotspur *Eng -v- #19 Sion *Sui)

(#4 Manchester United *Eng -v- #29 AC Sparta Praha *Cze) -v- (#13 Molde FK *Nor -v- #20 Saint-Etienne *Fra)

(#5 Arsenal *Eng -v- #28 Liverpool *Eng) -v- (#12 Lokomotiv Moskva *Rus -v- #21 FK Partizan *Srb)

(#6 Manchester City *Eng -v- #27 AFC Ajax *Ned) -v- (#11 Olympique Marseille *Fra -v- #22 SK Rapid Wien *Aut)

(#7 Galatasaray AS *Tur -v- #26 Rosenborg BK *Nor) -v- (#10 Schalke *Deu -v- #23 Besiktas JK *Tur)

(#8 Malmo FF *Swe -v- #25 FC Midtjylland *Den) -v- (#9 SSC Napoli *Ita -v- #24 SC Braga *Por)

UEL Quarterfinals

(#1 Dynamo Kyiv *Ukr -v- #32 KKS Lech Poznan *Pol -v- #16 Viktoria Plzen *Cze -v- #17 Basel *Sui) -v- (#8 Malmo FF *Swe -v- #25 FC Midtjylland *Den -v- #9 SSC Napoli *Ita -v- #24 SC Braga *Por)

(#2 Roma *Ita -v- #31 PAOK *Gre -v- #15 Athletic Bilbao *Esp -v- #18 Borussia Dortmund *Deu) -v- (#7 Galatasaray AS *Tur -v- #26 Rosenborg BK *Nor -v- #10 Schalke *Deu -v- #23 Besiktas JK *Tur)

(#3 KAA Gent *Bel -v- #30 RSC Anderlecht *Bel -v- #14 Tottenham Hotspur *Eng -v- #19 Sion *Sui) -v- (#6 Manchester City *Eng -v- #27 AFC Ajax *Ned -v- #11 Olympique Marseille *Fra -v- #22 SK Rapid Wien *Aut)

(#4 Manchester United *Eng -v- #29 AC Sparta Praha *Cze -v- #13 Molde FK *Nor -v- #20 Saint-Etienne *Fra) -v- (#5 Arsenal *Eng -v- #28 Liverpool *Eng -v- #12 Lokomotiv Moskva *Rus -v- #21 FK Partizan *Srb)

UEL Semifinals

(#1 Dynamo Kyiv *Ukr -v- #32 KKS Lech Poznan *Pol -v- #16 Viktoria Plzen *Cze -v- #17 Basel *Sui -v- #8 Malmo FF *Swe -v- #25 FC Midtjylland *Den -v- #9 SSC Napoli *Ita -v- #24 SC Braga *Por) -v- (#4 Manchester United *Eng -v- #29 AC Sparta Praha *Cze -v- #13 Molde FK *Nor -v- #20 Saint-Etienne *Fra -v- #5 Arsenal *Eng -v- #28 Liverpool *Eng -v- #12 Lokomotiv Moskva *Rus -v- #21 FK Partizan *Srb)

(#2 Roma *Ita -v- #31 PAOK *Gre -v- #15 Athletic Bilbao *Esp -v- #18 Borussia Dortmund *Deu -v- #7 Galatasaray AS *Tur -v- #26 Rosenborg BK *Nor -v- #10 Schalke *Deu -v- #23 Besiktas JK *Tur) -v- (#3 KAA Gent *Bel -v- #30 RSC Anderlecht *Bel -v- #14 Tottenham Hotspur *Eng -v- #19 Sion *Sui -v- #6 Manchester City *Eng -v- #27 AFC Ajax *Ned -v- #11 Olympique Marseille *Fra -v- #22 SK Rapid Wien *Aut)

UEL Final

(#1 Dynamo Kyiv *Ukr -v- #32 KKS Lech Poznan *Pol -v- #16 Viktoria Plzen *Cze -v- #17 Basel *Sui -v- #8 Malmo FF *Swe -v- #25 FC Midtjylland *Den -v- #9 SSC Napoli *Ita -v- #24 SC Braga *Por -v- #4 Manchester United *Eng -v- #29 AC Sparta Praha *Cze -v- #13 Molde FK *Nor -v- #20 Saint-Etienne *Fra -v- #5 Arsenal *Eng -v- #28 Liverpool *Eng -v- #12 Lokomotiv Moskva *Rus -v- #21 FK Partizan *Srb) -v- (#2 Roma *Ita -v- #31 PAOK *Gre -v- #15 Athletic Bilbao *Esp -v- #18 Borussia Dortmund *Deu -v- #7 Galatasaray AS *Tur -v- #26 Rosenborg BK *Nor -v- #10 Schalke *Deu -v- #23 Besiktas JK *Tur -v- #3 KAA Gent *Bel -v- #30 RSC Anderlecht *Bel -v- #14 Tottenham Hotspur *Eng -v- #19 Sion *Sui -v- #6 Manchester City *Eng -v- #27 AFC Ajax *Ned -v- #11 Olympique Marseille *Fra -v- #22 SK Rapid Wien *Aut)

UEL place #3 grp ctry Pts +/- Gf Agf W Aw disp Coef

25 Celtic FC A SCO 1 0 2

26 AS Monaco FC J FRA 1 0 1 1

27 FC Girondins de Bordeaux B FRA 1 0 1 0 0 0 1

28 FC Dnipro Dnipropetrovsk G UKR 1 0 1 0 0 0 3 52.033

29 Asteras Tripolis FC K GRE 1 0 1 0 0 0 3 13.380

30 CS Os Belenenses I POR 1 0 0 0 0 0 1

31 Qabala FK C AZE 1 0 0 0 0 0 2

32 AZ Alkmaar L NED 0 -1 2

33 Villarreal CF E ESP 0 -1 1

34 KF Skenderbeu H ALB 0 -1 0 0 0 0 2

35 FC Slovan Liberec F CZE 0 -1 0 0 0 0 4

36 Legia Warszawa D POL 0 -1 0 0 0 0 7

UEL place #4 grp ctry Pts +/- Gf Agf W Aw disp Coef

37 SS Lazio G ITA 1

38 FC Rubin Kazan B RUS 0 -1 1 1 0 0 2

39 FC Krasnodar C RUS 0 -1 1 1 0 0 3

40 ACF Fiorentina I ITA 0 -1 1 0

41 FC Augsburg L DEU 0 -2 1 1 0 0 1

42 Qarabag FK J AZE 0 -2 1 1 0 0 4

43 Sporting Clube de Portugal H POR 0 -2 1 0 0 0 2

44 Fenerbahce SK A TUR 0 -2 1 0 0 0 3

45 FC Dinamo Minsk E BLR 0 -2 0

46 FC Groningen F NED 0 -3 0 0 0 0 2

47 APOEL FC K CYP 0 -3 0 0 0 0 5

48 Club Brugge KV D BEL 0 -5

SJJ · Oct 5, 2015

After UCL Matchday 2 (still re-editing my spreadsheets for UEL since UEFA changed the format of their standings pages between MD 1 and MD 2).

sd place #1 grp ctry Pts +/- Gf Agf W Aw disp Coef

1 FC Bayern München F DEU 6 8

2 Real Madrid CF A ESP 6 6

3 Juventus D ITA 6 3 4 2 2 1 0

4 SL Benfica C POR 6 3 4 2 2 1 7

5 FC Zenit H RUS 6 2

6 FC Dynamo Kyiv G UKR 4 2

7 FC Barcelona E ESP 4 1

8 PSV Eindhoven B NED 3

sd place #2 grp ctry Pts +/- Gf Agf W Aw disp Coef

9 Paris Saint-Germain A FRA 6

10 FC Porto G POR 4

11 Bayer 04 Leverkusen E DEU 3 2

12 Club Atlético de Madrid C ESP 3 1 3 2

13 Sevilla FC D ESP 3 1 3 0

14 Valencia CF H ESP 3 0 3 1 1 1

15 Manchester United FC B ENG 3 0 3 1 1 0

16 Olympiacos FC F GRE 3 -2

sd place #3 grp ctry Pts +/- Gf Agf W Aw disp Coef

17 Chelsea FC G ENG 3 3

18 Manchester City FC D ENG 3 0 3 2

19 PFC CSKA Moskva B RUS 3 0 3 0

20 FC BATE Borisov E BLR 3 -2

21 GNK Dinamo Zagreb F CRO 3 -4

22 KAA Gent H BEL 1 -1

23 Galatasaray AŞ C TUR 1 -2

24 Malmö FF A SWE 0

sd place #4 grp ctry Pts +/- Gf Agf W Aw disp Coef

25 VfL Wolfsburg B DEU 3

26 AS Roma E ITA 1 -1 3

27 Olympique Lyonnais H FRA 1 -1 1

28 FC Astana C KAZ 1 -2

29 Arsenal FC F ENG 0 -2

30 VfL Borussia Mönchengladbach D DEU 0 -4

31 Maccabi Tel-Aviv FC G ISR 0 -6

32 FC Shakhtar Donetsk A UKR 0 -7

Round of 16

#1 Bayern München *Deu -v- #16 Olympiacos *Gre

#2 Real Madrid *Esp -v- #15 Manchester United *Eng

#3 Juventus *Ita -v- #14 Valencia *Esp

#4 SL Benfica *Por -v- #13 Sevilla *Esp

#5 Zenit *Rus -v- #12 Atlético Madrid *Esp

#6 Dynamo Kyiv *Ukr -v- #11 Bayer Leverkusen *Deu

#7 Barcelona *Esp -v- #10 Porto *Por

#8 PSV Eindhoven *Ned -v- #9 Paris Saint-Germain *Fra

Quarterfinals (the 1-16-8-9 and 2-15-7-10 brackets are very interesting)

(#1 Bayern München *Deu -v- #16 Olympiacos *Gre) -v- (#8 PSV Eindhoven *Ned -v- #9 Paris Saint-Germain *Fra)

(#2 Real Madrid *Esp -v- #15 Manchester United *Eng) -v- (#7 Barcelona *Esp -v- #10 Porto *Por)

(#3 Juventus *Ita -v- #14 Valencia *Esp) -v- (#6 Dynamo Kyiv *Ukr -v- #11 Bayer Leverkusen *Deu)

(#4 SL Benfica *Por -v- #13 Sevilla *Esp) -v- (#5 Zenit *Rus -v- #12 Atlético Madrid *Esp)

Semifinals

(#1 Bayern München *Deu -v- #16 Olympiacos *Gre -v- #8 PSV Eindhoven *Ned -v- #9 Paris Saint-Germain *Fra) -v- (#4 SL Benfica *Por -v- #13 Sevilla *Esp -v- #5 Zenit *Rus -v- #12 Atlético Madrid *Esp)

(#2 Real Madrid *Esp -v- #15 Manchester United *Eng -v- #7 Barcelona *Esp -v- #10 Porto *Por) -v- (#3 Juventus *Ita -v- #14 Valencia *Esp -v- #6 Dynamo Kyiv *Ukr -v- #11 Bayer Leverkusen *Deu)

Final

(#1 Bayern München *Deu -v- #16 Olympiacos *Gre -v- #8 PSV Eindhoven *Ned -v- #9 Paris Saint-Germain *Fra -v- #4 SL Benfica *Por -v- #13 Sevilla *Esp -v- #5 Zenit *Rus -v- #12 Atlético Madrid *Esp) -v- (#2 Real Madrid *Esp -v- #15 Manchester United *Eng -v- #7 Barcelona *Esp -v- #10 Porto *Por -v- #3 Juventus *Ita -v- #14 Valencia *Esp -v- #6 Dynamo Kyiv *Ukr -v- #11 Bayer Leverkusen *Deu)

SJJ · Nov 8, 2015

AFTER MATCHDAY 3
Round of 16

#1 Zenit *Rus -v- #16 Manchester United *Eng

#2 Paris Saint-Germain *Fra -v- #15 Bayer Leverkusen *Deu

#3 Porto *Por -v- #14 Dynamo Kyiv *Ukr

#4 Barcelona *Esp -v- #13 Olympiacos *Gre

#5 Juventus *Ita -v- #12 Valencia *Esp

#6 Bayern München *Deu -v- #11 Manchester City *Eng

#7 Atlético Madrid *Esp -v- #10 SL Benfica *Por

#8 VfL Wolfsburg *Deu -v- #9 Real Madrid *Esp

Quarterfinals

(#1 Zenit *Rus -v- #16 Manchester United *Eng) -v- (#8 VfL Wolfsburg *Deu -v- #9 Real Madrid *Esp)

(#2 Paris Saint-Germain *Fra -v- #15 Bayer Leverkusen *Deu) -v- (#7 Atlético Madrid *Esp -v- #10 SL Benfica *Por)

(#3 Porto *Por -v- #14 Dynamo Kyiv *Ukr) -v- (#6 Bayern München *Deu -v- #11 Manchester City *Eng)

(#4 Barcelona *Esp -v- #13 Olympiacos *Gre) -v- (#5 Juventus *Ita -v- #12 Valencia *Esp)

Semifinals

(#1 Zenit *Rus -v- #16 Manchester United *Eng -v- #8 VfL Wolfsburg *Deu -v- #9 Real Madrid *Esp) -v- (#4 Barcelona *Esp -v- #13 Olympiacos *Gre -v- #5 Juventus *Ita -v- #12 Valencia *Esp)

(#2 Paris Saint-Germain *Fra -v- #15 Bayer Leverkusen *Deu -v- #7 Atlético Madrid *Esp -v- #10 SL Benfica *Por) -v- (#3 Porto *Por -v- #14 Dynamo Kyiv *Ukr -v- #6 Bayern München *Deu -v- #11 Manchester City *Eng)

Final

(#1 Zenit *Rus -v- #16 Manchester United *Eng -v- #8 VfL Wolfsburg *Deu -v- #9 Real Madrid *Esp -v- #4 Barcelona *Esp -v- #13 Olympiacos *Gre -v- #5 Juventus *Ita -v- #12 Valencia *Esp) -v- (#2 Paris Saint-Germain *Fra -v- #15 Bayer Leverkusen *Deu -v- #7 Atlético Madrid *Esp -v- #10 SL Benfica *Por -v- #3 Porto *Por -v- #14 Dynamo Kyiv *Ukr -v- #6 Bayern München *Deu -v- #11 Manchester City *Eng)

SJJ · Nov 8, 2015

AFTER MATCHDAY 4
Round of 16

#1 Zenit *Rus -v- #16 Roma *Ita

#2 Real Madrid *Esp -v- #15 Valencia *Esp

#3 Barcelona *Esp -v- #14 PSV Eindhoven *Ned

#4 Porto *Por -v- #13 Paris Saint-Germain *Fra

#5 Bayern München *Deu -v- #12 Chelsea *Eng

#6 Manchester City *Eng -v- #11 Atlético Madrid *Esp

#7 SL Benfica *Por -v- #10 Juventus *Ita

#8 Manchester United *Eng -v- #9 Olympiacos *Gre

Quarterfinals

(#1 Zenit *Rus -v- #16 Roma *Ita) -v- (#8 Manchester United *Eng -v- #9 Olympiacos *Gre)

(#2 Real Madrid *Esp -v- #15 Valencia *Esp) -v- (#7 SL Benfica *Por -v- #10 Juventus *Ita)

(#3 Barcelona *Esp -v- #14 PSV Eindhoven *Ned) -v- (#6 Manchester City *Eng -v- #11 Atlético Madrid *Esp)

(#4 Porto *Por -v- #13 Paris Saint-Germain *Fra) -v- (#5 Bayern München *Deu -v- #12 Chelsea *Eng)

Semifinals

(#1 Zenit *Rus -v- #16 Roma *Ita -v- #8 Manchester United *Eng -v- #9 Olympiacos *Gre) -v- (#4 Porto *Por -v- #13 Paris Saint-Germain *Fra -v- #5 Bayern München *Deu -v- #12 Chelsea *Eng)

(#2 Real Madrid *Esp -v- #15 Valencia *Esp -v- #7 SL Benfica *Por -v- #10 Juventus *Ita) -v- (#3 Barcelona *Esp -v- #14 PSV Eindhoven *Ned -v- #6 Manchester City *Eng -v- #11 Atlético Madrid *Esp)

Final

(#1 Zenit *Rus -v- #16 Roma *Ita -v- #8 Manchester United *Eng -v- #9 Olympiacos *Gre -v- #4 Porto *Por -v- #13 Paris Saint-Germain *Fra -v- #5 Bayern München *Deu -v- #12 Chelsea *Eng) -v- (#2 Real Madrid *Esp -v- #15 Valencia *Esp -v- #7 SL Benfica *Por -v- #10 Juventus *Ita -v- #3 Barcelona *Esp -v- #14 PSV Eindhoven *Ned -v- #6 Manchester City *Eng -v- #11 Atlético Madrid *Esp)

SJJ · Nov 26, 2015

AFTER MATCHDAY FIVE

The tie for tenth place between the Portuguese sides gets broken by fewer disciplinary points (Porto: 10 yellows; Benfica: 18 yellows, one red), as the rules for seeding the third-place teams in the UCL have changed this year). Note that under last year's seeding rules, tenth-eleventh would be swapped since Benfica has a higher coefficient (118.276 to 111.276) :

16.04 The four best third-placed teams are seeded for the UEFA Europa League round of 32. They are determined in accordance with the following criteria (in descending order):
a. higher number of points obtained in the group matches;
b. superior goal difference;
c. higher number of goals scored;
d. higher number of away goals scored;
e. higher number of wins;
f. higher number of away wins;
g. lower disciplinary points total based only on yellow and red cards received in all group matches (red card = 3 points, yellow card = 1 point, expulsion for two yellow cards in one match = 3 points);
h. higher club coefficient (see Annex D).

sd place #1 grp ctry Pts +/- Gf Agf W Aw disp

1 FC Zenit H RUS 15

2 FC Barcelona E ESP 13 11

3 Real Madrid CF A ESP 13 8

4 FC Bayern München F DEU 12

5 Juventus D ITA 11

6 Chelsea FC G ENG 10 8

7 Club Atlético de Madrid C ESP 10 7

8 VfL Wolfsburg B DEU 9

sd place #2 grp ctry Pts +/- Gf Agf W Aw disp

9 Paris Saint-Germain A FRA 10 9

10 FC Porto G POR 10 3 9 5 3 1 10

11 SL Benfica C POR 10 3 9 5 3 1 21

12 Manchester City FC D ENG 9 2

13 Olympiacos FC F GRE 9 -4

14 Manchester United FC B ENG 8

15 KAA Gent H BEL 7

16 AS Roma E ITA 5

sd place #3 grp ctry Pts +/- Gf Agf W Aw disp

17 FC Dynamo Kyiv G UKR 8

18 PSV Eindhoven B NED 7

19 Arsenal FC F ENG 6 -1

20 Valencia CF H ESP 6 -2

21 Bayer 04 Leverkusen E DEU 5 1

22 VfL Borussia Mönchengladbach D DEU 5 -2

23 Galatasaray AŞ C TUR 4

24 FC Shakhtar Donetsk A UKR 3

sd place #4 grp ctry Pts +/- Gf Agf W Aw disp

25 PFC CSKA Moskva B RUS 4 -3

26 FC BATE Borisov E BLR 4 -7

27 Sevilla FC D ESP 3 -4

28 FC Astana C KAZ 3 -6

29 GNK Dinamo Zagreb F CRO 3 -9

30 Malmö FF A SWE 3 -12

31 Olympique Lyonnais H FRA 1

32 Maccabi Tel-Aviv FC G ISR 0

Round of 16

#1 Zenit *Rus -v- #16 Roma *Ita

#2 Barcelona *Esp -v- #15 KAA Gent *Bel

#3 Real Madrid *Esp -v- #14 Manchester United *Eng

#4 Bayern München *Deu -v- #13 Olympiacos *Gre

#5 Juventus *Ita -v- #12 Manchester City *Eng

#6 Chelsea *Eng -v- #11 SL Benfica *Por

#7 Atlético Madrid *Esp -v- #10 Porto *Por

#8 VfL Wolfsburg *Deu -v- #9 Paris Saint-Germain *Fra

Quarterfinals

(#1 Zenit *Rus -v- #16 Roma *Ita) -v- (#8 VfL Wolfsburg *Deu -v- #9 Paris Saint-Germain *Fra)

(#2 Barcelona *Esp -v- #15 KAA Gent *Bel) -v- (#7 Atlético Madrid *Esp -v- #10 Porto *Por)

(#3 Real Madrid *Esp -v- #14 Manchester United *Eng) -v- (#6 Chelsea *Eng -v- #11 SL Benfica *Por)

(#4 Bayern München *Deu -v- #13 Olympiacos *Gre) -v- (#5 Juventus *Ita -v- #12 Manchester City *Eng)

Semifinals

(#1 Zenit *Rus -v- #16 Roma *Ita -v- #8 VfL Wolfsburg *Deu -v- #9 Paris Saint-Germain *Fra) -v- (#4 Bayern München *Deu -v- #13 Olympiacos *Gre -v- #5 Juventus *Ita -v- #12 Manchester City *Eng)

(#2 Barcelona *Esp -v- #15 KAA Gent *Bel -v- #7 Atlético Madrid *Esp -v- #10 Porto *Por) -v- (#3 Real Madrid *Esp -v- #14 Manchester United *Eng -v- #6 Chelsea *Eng -v- #11 SL Benfica *Por)

Final

(#1 Zenit *Rus -v- #16 Roma *Ita -v- #8 VfL Wolfsburg *Deu -v- #9 Paris Saint-Germain *Fra -v- #4 Bayern München *Deu -v- #13 Olympiacos *Gre -v- #5 Juventus *Ita -v- #12 Manchester City *Eng) -v- (#2 Barcelona *Esp -v- #15 KAA Gent *Bel -v- #7 Atlético Madrid *Esp -v- #10 Porto *Por -v- #3 Real Madrid *Esp -v- #14 Manchester United *Eng -v- #6 Chelsea *Eng -v- #11 SL Benfica *Por)

SJJ · Nov 26, 2015

In Group C, the UEFA standings page has Atletico Madrid over Benfica, but Benfica won the head-to-head game, so as of right now, maybe they should be given the top spot in the group.

EvanJ · Nov 27, 2015

SJJ said: ↑

In Group C, the UEFA standings page has Atletico Madrid over Benfica, but Benfica won the head-to-head game, so as of right now, maybe they should be given the top spot in the group.
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Wikipedia has Benfica in first, and by the same logic Porto is in first and Chelsea is in second. In both cases the Portuguese club has the worse goal differential but won the only head-to-head game so far.

SJJ · Dec 13, 2015

Time to close up this thread, seeing how both the Champions League and Europa League would come out, and adding the coefficients for informational purposes in the knockout listings:

CHAMPIONS LEAGUE, AFTER MATCHDAY SIX

sd place #1 grp ctry Pts +/- Gf Agf

1 Real Madrid CF A ESP 16

2 FC Bayern Munchen F DEU 15 16

3 FC Zenit H RUS 15 7

4 FC Barcelona E ESP 14

5 Chelsea FC G ENG 13 10

6 Club Atletico de Madrid C ESP 13 8

7 Manchester City FC D ENG 12 4

8 VfL Wolfsburg B DEU 12 3

sd place #2 grp ctry Pts +/- Gf Agf

9 Paris Saint-Germain A FRA 13

10 FC Dynamo Kyiv G UKR 11 4

11 Juventus D ITA 11 3

12 SL Benfica C POR 10 2

13 KAA Gent H BEL 10 1 8 4

14 PSV Eindhoven B NED 10 1 8 2

15 Arsenal FC F ENG 9 2

16 AS Roma E ITA 6

sd place #3 grp ctry Pts +/- Gf Agf

17 FC Porto G POR 10

18 Olympiacos FC F GRE 9

19 Manchester United FC B ENG 8

20 Bayer 04 Leverkusen E DEU 6 1

21 Sevilla FC D ESP 6 -3

22 Valencia CF H ESP 6 -4

23 Galatasaray AS C TUR 5

24 FC Shakhtar Donetsk A UKR 3

sd place #4 grp ctry Pts +/- Gf Agf

25 VfL Borussia Monchengladbach D DEU 5 -4

26 FC BATE Borisov E BLR 5 -7

27 Olympique Lyonnais H FRA 4 -4 5 4

28 PFC CSKA Moskva B RUS 4 -4 5 1

29 FC Astana C KAZ 4 -6

30 GNK Dinamo Zagreb F CRO 3 -11

31 Malmo FF A SWE 3 -20

32 Maccabi Tel-Aviv FC G ISR 0

Round of 16

#1 Real Madrid *Esp 171.999 -v- #16 Roma *Ita 43.602

#2 Bayern Munchen *Deu 154.883 -v- #15 Arsenal *Eng 110.078

#3 Zenit *Rus 90.099 -v- #14 PSV Eindhoven *Ned 58.195

#4 Barcelona *Esp 164.999 -v- #13 KAA Gent *Bel 13.440 (OK, not the most watchable matchup)

#5 Chelsea *Eng 142.078 -v- #12 SL Benfica *Por 118.276

#6 Atletico Madrid *Esp 120.999 -v- #11 Juventus *Ita 95.102

#7 Manchester City *Eng 87.078 -v- #10 Dynamo Kyiv *Ukr 65.033

#8 VfL Wolfsburg *Deu 31.883 -v- #9 Paris Saint-Germain *Fra 100.483

Quarterfinals

(#1 Real Madrid *Esp 171.999 -v- #16 Roma *Ita 43.602) -v- (#8 VfL Wolfsburg *Deu 31.883 -v- #9 Paris Saint-Germain *Fra 100.483)

(#2 Bayern Munchen *Deu 154.883 -v- #15 Arsenal *Eng 110.078) -v- (#7 Manchester City *Eng 87.078 -v- #10 Dynamo Kyiv *Ukr 65.033)

(#3 Zenit *Rus 90.099 -v- #14 PSV Eindhoven *Ned 58.195) -v- (#6 Atletico Madrid *Esp 120.999 -v- #11 Juventus *Ita 95.102)

(#4 Barcelona *Esp 164.999 -v- #13 KAA Gent *Bel 13.440) -v- (#5 Chelsea *Eng 142.078 -v- #12 SL Benfica *Por 118.276)

Semifinals

(#1 Real Madrid *Esp 171.999 -v- #16 Roma *Ita 43.602 -v- #8 VfL Wolfsburg *Deu 31.883 -v- #9 Paris Saint-Germain *Fra 100.483) -v- (#4 Barcelona *Esp 164.999 -v- #13 KAA Gent *Bel 13.440 -v- #5 Chelsea *Eng 142.078 -v- #12 SL Benfica *Por 118.276)

(#2 Bayern Munchen *Deu 154.883 -v- #15 Arsenal *Eng 110.078 -v- #7 Manchester City *Eng 87.078 -v- #10 Dynamo Kyiv *Ukr 65.033) -v- (#3 Zenit *Rus 90.099 -v- #14 PSV Eindhoven *Ned 58.195 -v- #6 Atletico Madrid *Esp 120.999 -v- #11 Juventus *Ita 95.102)

Final

(#1 Real Madrid *Esp 171.999 -v- #16 Roma *Ita 43.602 -v- #8 VfL Wolfsburg *Deu 31.883 -v- #9 Paris Saint-Germain *Fra 100.483 -v- #4 Barcelona *Esp 164.999 -v- #13 KAA Gent *Bel 13.440 -v- #5 Chelsea *Eng 142.078 -v- #12 SL Benfica *Por 118.276) -v- (#2 Bayern Munchen *Deu 154.883 -v- #15 Arsenal *Eng 110.078 -v- #7 Manchester City *Eng 87.078 -v- #10 Dynamo Kyiv *Ukr 65.033 -v- #3 Zenit *Rus 90.099 -v- #14 PSV Eindhoven *Ned 58.195 -v- #6 Atletico Madrid *Esp 120.999 -v- #11 Juventus *Ita 95.102)

SJJ · Dec 13, 2015

EUROPA LEAGUE, AFTER MATCHDAY SIX

Again, the eight UCL teams are seeded #1 to #8 in the knockout listings, so you have the possibility that all of them reaching the QF.

sd place #1 grp ctry Pts +/- Gf Agf

1 SSC Napoli D ITA 18

2 SK Rapid Wien E AUT 15

3 FC Schalke 04 K DEU 14 12

4 SS Lazio G ITA 14 7

5 Athletic Club Bilbao L ESP 13 8

6 Tottenham Hotspur FC J ENG 13 6

7 FC Basel 1893 I SUI 13 5 10

8 FC Krasnodar C RUS 13 5 9

9 SC Braga F POR 13 3

10 FC Lokomotiv Moskva H RUS 11 5

11 Molde FK A NOR 11 3

12 Liverpool FC B ENG 10

sd place #2 grp ctry Pts +/- Gf Agf

13 Villarreal CF E ESP 13

14 Olympique de Marseille F FRA 12 5 12

15 AC Sparta Praha K CZE 12 5

16 ACF Fiorentina I ITA 10 5 11

17 Borussia Dortmund C DEU 10 5 10

18 Sporting Clube de Portugal H POR 10 3

19 RSC Anderlecht J BEL 10 2

20 AS Saint-Etienne G FRA 9 3

21 FC Augsburg L DEU 9 1 12

22 Fenerbahçe SK A TUR 9 1 7

23 FC Sion B SUI 9 0

24 FC Midtjylland D DEN 7

sd place #3 grp ctry Pts +/- Gf Agf

25 Besiktas JK H TUR 9 1

26 FK Partizan L SRB 9 -4

27 AFC Ajax A NED 7 0 6

28 PAOK FC C GRE 7 0 3

29 FC Slovan Liberec F CZE 7 -2 6 3

30 FC Dnipro Dnipropetrovsk G UKR 7 -2 6 2

31 FC Rubin Kazan B RUS 6 0

32 AS Monaco FC J FRA 6 -4

33 KKS Lech Poznan I POL 5 -4

34 Club Brugge KV D BEL 5 -7

35 FC Viktoria Plzen E CZE 4 -2

36 Asteras Tripolis FC K GRE 4 -8

sd place #4 grp ctry Pts +/- Gf Agf

37 CS Os Belenenses I POR 5

38 FC Girondins de Bordeaux B FRA 4 -2

39 Qarabag FK J AZE 4 -4

40 AZ Alkmaar L NED 4 -5

41 Legia Warszawa D POL 4 -6

42 Celtic FC A SCO 3 -4

43 FC Dinamo Minsk E BLR 3 -8

44 KF Skenderbeu H ALB 3 -9 4

45 APOEL FC K CYP 3 -9 3

46 FC Groningen F NED 2 -6

47 Rosenborg BK G NOR 2 -8

48 Qabala FK C AZE 2 -10

Round of 32

#1 Porto *Por 111.276 -v- #32 Midtjylland *Den 7.960

#2 Olympiacos *Gre 62.380 -v- #31 Sion *Sui 8.375

#3 Manchester United *Eng 103.078 -v- #30 Fenerbahçe SK *Tur 30.020

#4 Bayer Leverkusen *Deu 87.883 -v- #29 Augsburg *Deu 15.883

#5 Sevilla *Esp 80.499 -v- #28 Saint-Etienne *Fra 16.983

#6 Valencia *Esp 99.999 -v- #27 RSC Anderlecht *Bel 47.440

#7 Galatasaray AS *Tur 50.020 -v- #26 Sportinge Portugal *Por 56.276

#8 Shakhtar Donetsk *Ukr 86.033 -v- #25 Borussia Dortmund *Deu 99.883

#9 SSC Napoli *Ita 84.102 -v- #24 ACF Fiorentina *Ita 49.102

#10 SK Rapid Wien *Aut 15.635 -v- #23 AC Sparta Praha *Cze 30.825

#11 Schalke *Deu 111.883 -v- #22 Olympique Marseille *Fra 55.483

#12 SS Lazio *Ita 49.102 -v- #21 Villarreal *Esp 58.999

#13 Athletic Bilbao *Esp 56.999 -v- #20 Liverpool *Eng 47.078

#14 Tottenham Hotspur *Eng 84.078 -v- #19 Molde FK *Nor 10.375

#15 Basel *Sui 84.875 -v- #18 Lokomotiv Moskva *Rus 23.099

#16 Krasnodar *Rus 15.099 -v- #17 SC Braga *Por 51.776

Round of 16

(#1 Porto *Por 111.276 -v- #32 Midtjylland *Den 7.960) -v- (#16 Krasnodar *Rus 15.099 -v- #17 SC Braga *Por 51.776)

(#2 Olympiacos *Gre 62.380 -v- #31 Sion *Sui 8.375) -v- (#15 Basel *Sui 84.875 -v- #18 Lokomotiv Moskva *Rus 23.099)

(#3 Manchester United *Eng 103.078 -v- #30 Fenerbahçe SK *Tur 30.020) -v- (#14 Tottenham Hotspur *Eng 84.078 -v- #19 Molde FK *Nor 10.375)

(#4 Bayer Leverkusen *Deu 87.883 -v- #29 Augsburg *Deu 15.883) -v- (#13 Athletic Bilbao *Esp 56.999 -v- #20 Liverpool *Eng 47.078)

(#5 Sevilla *Esp 80.499 -v- #28 Saint-Etienne *Fra 16.983) -v- (#12 SS Lazio *Ita 49.102 -v- #21 Villarreal *Esp 58.999)

(#6 Valencia *Esp 99.999 -v- #27 RSC Anderlecht *Bel 47.440) -v- (#11 Schalke *Deu 111.883 -v- #22 Olympique Marseille *Fra 55.483)

(#7 Galatasaray AS *Tur 50.020 -v- #26 Sportinge Portugal *Por 56.276) -v- (#10 SK Rapid Wien *Aut 15.635 -v- #23 AC Sparta Praha *Cze 30.825)

(#8 Shakhtar Donetsk *Ukr 86.033 -v- #25 Borussia Dortmund *Deu 99.883) -v- (#9 SSC Napoli *Ita 84.102 -v- #24 ACF Fiorentina *Ita 49.102)

Quarterfinals

(#1 Porto *Por 111.276 -v- #32 Midtjylland *Den 7.960 -v- #16 Krasnodar *Rus 15.099 -v- #17 SC Braga *Por 51.776) -v- (#8 Shakhtar Donetsk *Ukr 86.033 -v- #25 Borussia Dortmund *Deu 99.883 -v- #9 SSC Napoli *Ita 84.102 -v- #24 ACF Fiorentina *Ita 49.102)

(#2 Olympiacos *Gre 62.380 -v- #31 Sion *Sui 8.375 -v- #15 Basel *Sui 84.875 -v- #18 Lokomotiv Moskva *Rus 23.099) -v- (#7 Galatasaray AS *Tur 50.020 -v- #26 Sportinge Portugal *Por 56.276 -v- #10 SK Rapid Wien *Aut 15.635 -v- #23 AC Sparta Praha *Cze 30.825)

(#3 Manchester United *Eng 103.078 -v- #30 Fenerbahçe SK *Tur 30.020 -v- #14 Tottenham Hotspur *Eng 84.078 -v- #19 Molde FK *Nor 10.375) -v- (#6 Valencia *Esp 99.999 -v- #27 RSC Anderlecht *Bel 47.440 -v- #11 Schalke *Deu 111.883 -v- #22 Olympique Marseille *Fra 55.483)

(#4 Bayer Leverkusen *Deu 87.883 -v- #29 Augsburg *Deu 15.883 -v- #13 Athletic Bilbao *Esp 56.999 -v- #20 Liverpool *Eng 47.078) -v- (#5 Sevilla *Esp 80.499 -v- #28 Saint-Etienne *Fra 16.983 -v- #12 SS Lazio *Ita 49.102 -v- #21 Villarreal *Esp 58.999)

Semifinals

(#1 Porto *Por 111.276 -v- #32 Midtjylland *Den 7.960 -v- #16 Krasnodar *Rus 15.099 -v- #17 SC Braga *Por 51.776 -v- #8 Shakhtar Donetsk *Ukr 86.033 -v- #25 Borussia Dortmund *Deu 99.883 -v- #9 SSC Napoli *Ita 84.102 -v- #24 ACF Fiorentina *Ita 49.102) -v- (#4 Bayer Leverkusen *Deu 87.883 -v- #29 Augsburg *Deu 15.883 -v- #13 Athletic Bilbao *Esp 56.999 -v- #20 Liverpool *Eng 47.078 -v- #5 Sevilla *Esp 80.499 -v- #28 Saint-Etienne *Fra 16.983 -v- #12 SS Lazio *Ita 49.102 -v- #21 Villarreal *Esp 58.999)

(#2 Olympiacos *Gre 62.380 -v- #31 Sion *Sui 8.375 -v- #15 Basel *Sui 84.875 -v- #18 Lokomotiv Moskva *Rus 23.099 -v- #7 Galatasaray AS *Tur 50.020 -v- #26 Sportinge Portugal *Por 56.276 -v- #10 SK Rapid Wien *Aut 15.635 -v- #23 AC Sparta Praha *Cze 30.825) -v- (#3 Manchester United *Eng 103.078 -v- #30 Fenerbahçe SK *Tur 30.020 -v- #14 Tottenham Hotspur *Eng 84.078 -v- #19 Molde FK *Nor 10.375 -v- #6 Valencia *Esp 99.999 -v- #27 RSC Anderlecht *Bel 47.440 -v- #11 Schalke *Deu 111.883 -v- #22 Olympique Marseille *Fra 55.483)

Final

(#1 Porto *Por 111.276 -v- #32 Midtjylland *Den 7.960 -v- #16 Krasnodar *Rus 15.099 -v- #17 SC Braga *Por 51.776 -v- #8 Shakhtar Donetsk *Ukr 86.033 -v- #25 Borussia Dortmund *Deu 99.883 -v- #9 SSC Napoli *Ita 84.102 -v- #24 ACF Fiorentina *Ita 49.102 -v- #4 Bayer Leverkusen *Deu 87.883 -v- #29 Augsburg *Deu 15.883 -v- #13 Athletic Bilbao *Esp 56.999 -v- #20 Liverpool *Eng 47.078 -v- #5 Sevilla *Esp 80.499 -v- #28 Saint-Etienne *Fra 16.983 -v- #12 SS Lazio *Ita 49.102 -v- #21 Villarreal *Esp 58.999) -v- (#2 Olympiacos *Gre 62.380 -v- #31 Sion *Sui 8.375 -v- #15 Basel *Sui 84.875 -v- #18 Lokomotiv Moskva *Rus 23.099 -v- #7 Galatasaray AS *Tur 50.020 -v- #26 Sportinge Portugal *Por 56.276 -v- #10 SK Rapid Wien *Aut 15.635 -v- #23 AC Sparta Praha *Cze 30.825 -v- #3 Manchester United *Eng 103.078 -v- #30 Fenerbahçe SK *Tur 30.020 -v- #14 Tottenham Hotspur *Eng 84.078 -v- #19 Molde FK *Nor 10.375 -v- #6 Valencia *Esp 99.999 -v- #27 RSC Anderlecht *Bel 47.440 -v- #11 Schalke *Deu 111.883 -v- #22 Olympique Marseille *Fra 55.483)