Re: Hue with Jamaica The Wizards released Jermaine Hue because they thought it would be best for him. He obviously wants to play, and it just didn't look like it was going to happen here. It looks like he's going to clear waivers with nobody else in MLS picking him up, so the team MAY try to re-sign him (that's what we were told last week might happen if he clears). His agent says he is going to pursue trials overseas before possibly coming back to MLS/KC. He's trying to set those trials up now.
Re: Hue with Jamaica good luck jermaine. hope you get to play somewhere... just as long as it's not a different mls team.
Re: Hue with Jamaica why cut a player of his talent during a losing streak? he passes better than ej/wolff, he shoots better than ef/wolff, and he traps better than ej/wolff. let's assume that gansler doesn't think he plays defense well, compared to the "splendid" defense we get out of ej/wolff. well then cut SEALY for crying out loud. this franchise deserves to be in a losing streak.
Re: Hue with Jamaica arnaud is not a wide midfielder, wahl/shovar are not wide defenders, victorine is not an attacking mid, garcia doesn't play well in central defense, jewsbury is not a wide midfielder, not to mention that wolff/ej suck and need replaced by somebody.
Re: Hue with Jamaica Don't you get it? He doesn't run around with his head cut off. Our whole midfield blows and is mind-numbingly simple. Arnaud included. The guy has absolutely no composure or change of pace. One speed. And while he plays hard, seems like he is on autopilot when it comes to making decisions with the ball at his feet. Always predictable.
Re: Hue with Jamaica Only about half of it is silly (Garcia etc.). We have tried to fit a bunch of square pegs in round holes at times. Jewsbury's been moved around every year. You could easily make the case that at least 5 or 6 guys that see regular time play out of their natural position on our team.
Re: Hue with Jamaica He's not a great crosser of the ball, but he brings you everything else you want from that position. And let's face it, we haven't had a good crosser of the ball wide since Hendo in 2000. Actually, there's not a real good crosser in this league. Arnaud is above average as a wide mid around the league. It's not a problem of being played out of position... Davy has played as a striker all year. He's just been really poor lately. You're absolutely right... which is why neither of them has played as a wide defender. They've both played as an outside guy in a three-man backline, which they're perfectly suited for (a three-man backline runs with three centerbacks where the outside two have no offensive responsibility, but mark up tighter than a normal centerback in a flat-four). He's not a d-mid. He's not a defender. He's not a forward. Apparently Sasha Victorine doesn't have a position on the field. He's actually really well suited to the A-mid role (and was playing superbly there just a few weeks ago). He's not a typical "#10" because he's not flashy-creative... but he's quietly creative and actually brings you a lot more in other areas than say a guy like Preki or Guevara or Gomez (Sasha actually plays defense and wins balls in the midfield). This might be the most ridiculous statement I've ever read on BigSoccer, and that's really saying something. He's been a centerback his whole career. Played it in college and was great. Played it for every minute of the 2000 championship run and could have (should have?) won the rookie-of-the-year award... (again, 3-man backline with centerbacks). Nevermind the fact that he looks absolutely lost positionally at times when you play him as an outside back. Nevermind that he doesn't bring you any of the attacking qualities you want from an outside defender in a four-man backline (i.e. ball skills, passing, first touch, crosses, etc.) Nick is a GREAT centerback... it's when he's on the outside that he's not as good. Jack Jewsbury can play every position on the field, and has... both in college and in his time with the Wizards. But he actually hasn't played as a "wide midfielder" at all this year. Not once. Seriously. Coach always talks about how when he puts Jack in it's because he wants more possession through the midfield, and you don't rely on your outside mids for possession - period. Jack just hasn't played well lately. It's as simple as that. You're so right... the only guys on the squad who have scored double-digit goals in an MLS season are really horrible and don't belong in MLS.
Re: Hue with Jamaica And you decided all of this in the 106 minutes of goal-less, assist-less soccer Jermaine Hue has played for the Kansas City Wizards??? My favorite part of that: "he shoots better than ef/wolff" Eddie Johnson's career MLS shooting percentage: 41% Josh Wolff's career MLS shooting percentage: 54% Jermaine Hue's career MLS shooting percentag: 33% (granted, it's a small sample-size.) Please, please keep spouting random crap that you can't back up because you have some sort of weird hard-on for Jerry Hue - a guy who was apparently so talented that he got cut by a team in the midst of a six game losing streak "for his own sake" because he couldn't help them and wasn't going to get on the field. p.s. - I say all of this as a fan of Jermaine Hue both personally and professionaly... but having seen his 106 minutes of goal-less, assist-less soccer and having seen him in practice about once a week since he came here in September last year: he didn't really have it at this level... at least not consistently.
Re: Hue with Jamaica Sure is interesting how you can make the same level of proclamtion about his worth based on the same amount of time. He didn't get a fair shake on the field, and when he did get minutes showed glimpses of being capable of the things our team is so obviously missing right now. Is it because he got cut from a team that's lost 5 straight that he sucks? Maybe the team that lost 5 straight sucks and there's more of a problem with the system and those judging the talent? PS - Hue does have a better shot than EJ or Wolff, and more importantly recognizes when to shoot - but so does Jack Jewsbury and Jose Burciaga. It doesn't make him a better player, but it doesn't make PBlake wrong.
Re: Hue with Jamaica I'd take Gomez or a prime Preki in a heartbeat over Victorine. I'd take Guevara too if he could even give me a Ruiz level of good behavior. We have a bunch of guys who can do "good things" or are "quietly creative". We have no one in midfield who can take over a game. Those three can. There have also been many times where Sasha's been a defensive liability as well. Let's not gloss over the slow-footed own goals and set piece gaffes. Jack's a converted forward. Gansler was the one who first started trying him at d-mid in his rookie year. His position now as more of a central midfielder is closer to those responsiblities than him going forward. I say lets put him back up top at this point and convert somebody else.
Re: Hue with Jamaica Actually, a lot more time. As I said in that post (and you quoted but ignored in your reply), I've seen Hue in practice a lot too. While Jermaine Hue shows flair and creativity at times that nobody else on this team has (save Josh Wolff), that alone isn't enough to keep a guy on a team. The rest of his skills are lacking. So there's a problem with every system and those judging the talent on every team in MLS, because he didn't get picked up by anybody else when we released him on waivers. It's not like just one team decided he wasn't worth it - every team in the league decided he wasn't worth it.
Re: Hue with Jamaica I wasn't saying I'd take Sasha over any of them... I was pointing out that he's not a traditional #10 (neither was Preki to be honest), but he does have a lot of traits that those three don't have. Sasha's not good enough at the #10 stuff to be the lone creativ influence in the midfield. Put him out there with another guy who can make passes and things, and he's great. Jack played forward in high school and one year in college before he started moving around the field.. He played all over the midfield, in attacking and defensive roles, along with out wide at times.
Re: Hue with Jamaica He talked like he had never played anything close to d-mid when I spoke with him his rookie year, and was struggling with the transition. Are you sure about that? He did play some A-mid/Withdrawn striker, but he finished 10th or something on SLU's all-time scoring list. He was expected to go forward for them, not keep possession.
Re: Hue with Jamaica What skills are those. I just want to know what's wrong with an A-mid who isn't as good tracking back? Most a-mids are that way. That gets put at priority #1 it seems, while those little things like flair and creativity that are useless for an a-mid are put on the backburner. Not true at all. He's an SI with extra restrictions trying to catch on in mid-season, and expectations about playing time because he's 27 year old-international. A different scenario entirely. The team releasing him for his own good isn't a stretch to me. I'm not saying Hue is equal by any stretch, but Diego Forlan sure was crap wasn't he? People get it wrong sometimes, and I think he could've helped our midfield right now.
Re: Hue with Jamaica At SLU, Jewsbury played mostly as a right winger with Brad Davis on the left, and Dipsy Selolwane playing as the center forward.
Re: Hue with Jamaica He was the third forward mostly or playing out wide with a responsibility to go forward, good to know. We've tried to turn him into something else entirely. Like Chad said, "you don't rely on your outside mids for possession - period." If Gansler is using him to gain more possession, than it's not the role he played all through his career.
Wizards waive Hue http://kc.wizards.mlsnet.com/MLS/ne...ntent_id=64895&vkey=pr_kcw&fext=.jsp&team=kcw
Re: Wizards waive Hue There's been some discussion about it in this thread: https://www.bigsoccer.com/forum/showthread.php?t=360857 But the thread title is a bit misleading, the conversation evolved a bit into this issue. Read if you like.