Hristo's Punishment [R]

Discussion in 'D.C. United' started by Kenobi, Apr 9, 2003.

  1. Kenobi

    Kenobi Member

    Jul 11, 1999
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  2. PumaJohnny

    PumaJohnny Member

    Nov 30, 2001
    Draper
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Appropriate

    I feel like the action is appropriate. I don't think he meant any harm.

    It was very fair of DC to post the disciplinary report. I found it quite insightful, and quite different from any report or post I'd read. On thing that stood out to me was that Hristo was back kneeling by the player's side and apologizing 46 seconds after the incident. It sounds like he stayed there and spoke Spanish to him until emergency services arrived.

    I wish a speedy recovery to the AU player.
     
  3. subbuteo

    subbuteo New Member

    Dec 17, 2002
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    token!
    Time to move on, though.
     
  4. greatscott

    greatscott Member+

    Dec 21, 2002
    Richmond
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    bravo.. move on.. Sorry Hristo.. I call for a complete termination of the singing or chanting of anything relating stoichkov to this incident.. Who agrees?
     
  5. detter7

    detter7 New Member

    Jun 14, 2000
    PA
    Tough decision for the disciplinary committee to make, but it's a just decision. Too bad we'll miss out Hristo at the home opener. Best wishes to the AU player.
     
  6. grumpydcu

    grumpydcu Member

    Jan 1, 2002
    MD
    Aside from agreeing that we can all move on now, I saw one statement in the report which caught my attention. In the conclusions section there was mention of "... the Leagues dissent initiative in 2003 to deal with dissent by issuing a yellow card". I am all for clamping down on the carping by the players after every call, but this is something I will have to see before I believe it will be enforced.
     
  7. owendylan

    owendylan Member

    May 30, 2001
    Virginia
    Club:
    DC United
    MLS did absolutely the right thing, for once. A very fair and appropriate decision.
     
  8. Turk from Pigs Eye

    Turk from Pigs Eye New Member

    Jun 14, 2002
    Pigs Eye (St. Paul),
    How long will the kid be out and how much will this tackle cost him?
     
  9. owendylan

    owendylan Member

    May 30, 2001
    Virginia
    Club:
    DC United
    Probably 4-6 months and who knows. If he fully recovers, and that maybe a big if, it shouldn't cost him anything. He won't miss a season of play. As far as the medical bills, who knows. There's insurance and the possibility that the team or Stoitchkov will pick up the tab.
     
  10. quarterUltra

    quarterUltra Member

    Sep 10, 2000
    Stillwater, OK
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Re: Hristo's Punishment [R]

    I would hope that Hristo would offer to pick up a good portion of it, esp that not covered by insurance.
     
  11. Flying Weasel

    Flying Weasel Member

    Mar 22, 2001
    Harrisburg, PA
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Is it usual for the league to provide the public such a thorough report of its analysis and findings/conclusions? I didn't expect such a detailed public report.

    It seemed objective, balanced and fair. It was quite similar to numerous recent posts on "The Tackle" thread since that video clip became available, and as such, while being insightful, it didn't included anything very surprising or unexpected.
     
  12. Dave Brother

    Dave Brother New Member

    Jun 10, 2001
    Alexandria
    You know what I say.......Give the guy a game off and leave it at that.

    Sorry that's the way i see it.
     
  13. sch2383

    sch2383 New Member

    Feb 14, 2003
    Northern Virginia
    Its not like our team was built around him. So two games, thats what, about a total of a half a game missed?
     
  14. alf

    alf Member+

    Jun 29, 1999
    Illinois
    Club:
    Chicago Red Stars
    It won't be the only games that Hristo misses. I'm frankly suprised that he didn't injure his foot tackling the kid and miss the next four weeks of training.
     
  15. cldiscodan

    cldiscodan New Member

    Feb 12, 2002
    Freddy llerena declined to comment. I wonder if that is because he is contemplating legal action?
     
  16. RMDad

    RMDad New Member

    Nov 15, 2001
    Fredericksburg, Va.
    Fair and reasonable punishment, IMHO.
    Thanks to United staff for posting the full decision.
     
  17. TEConnor

    TEConnor New Member

    Feb 22, 1999
    I found this statement interesting:

    Gazidis: "Unfortunately, in the aftermath of the injury, inaccurate descriptions of the incident were publicly circulated by those who did not have the benefit of reviewing the video evidence or interviewing those involved in and around the incident. The discipline imposed upon Stoitchkov is in line with MLS discipline to players involved in comparable incidents over the years in MLS games."
     
  18. CHICO13

    CHICO13 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Oct 4, 2001
    SECTION 135
    Club:
    The Strongest La Paz
    Nat'l Team:
    Bolivia
    Sounds like a roundhouse aimed right at BigSoccer to me.
     
  19. Red&Black

    Red&Black Member+

    Aug 30, 2001
    Lot 8
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Burkina Faso
    are you trying to tell me that Bigsoccer posters arrive at conclusions without having knowledge of all the facts and evidence?
     
  20. GoDC

    GoDC Member

    Nov 23, 1999
    Hamilton, VA
    I have heard this happens on some of the other forums but not here.
     
  21. Sachin

    Sachin New Member

    Jan 14, 2000
    La Norte
    Club:
    DC United

    I am shocked and appalled. I've always thought of BigSoccer as the Algonquin Roundtable of soccer discussions, where we calmly and rationally discuss the facts, and only the fact.

    Sachin
     
  22. Nice of DC United and the league to post the displinary report - good damage control and PR. Having read it I feel that the punishment is just. As a fan I will miss Stoitchkov playing at the home opener.
     
  23. RMDad

    RMDad New Member

    Nov 15, 2001
    Fredericksburg, Va.
    As well as the press.
     
  24. Diablo10

    Diablo10 New Member

    So, with Hristo out for the first 2 games, how do you see this affecting DCU? I do think it's a fair call with the 2 game suspension, but will it really hurt us not having him for 2 games? Just curious as to what you guys think!
     
  25. watanabe2k

    watanabe2k Member

    Sep 22, 2000
    Illinois, but Japan
    Club:
    Jubilo Iwata
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    MLS Deputy Commissioner Ivan Gazidis issued the following statement:

    "Our hearts go out to Freddy and we wish him a speedy and full recovery. The Committee ruled unanimously, having seen and heard all the evidence available to it, that, however serious and tragic the injury to Freddy Llerena, Hristo Stoitchkov's challenge was made in the course of the game and was a play on the ball which was between the two players."

    OR, In otherwords: Hristo showed up at my door last night at 3 am, and said he would kill me and my family if we did anything serious to him. Also he said that he owns me and the rest of the league so we better watch what we say.......

    Said Hristo Stoitchkov:

    "I accept the decision of the league. I deeply regret that Freddy was injured on the play and I wish him well in his recovery."

    or............. "I own the league, and I will kill that kid if he tries to score on me again"

    :D :)
    Sorry............ this was just a little fun. I actually like Stoichkov, I have never seen this incident photoage, so I can not say whether the tackle was reckless or not, no matter what the people on BigSoccer say it was a bad challenge or not.
     

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