News: Howard snubbed

Discussion in 'USA Men: News & Analysis' started by jackiesdad, Jul 12, 2014.

  1. jackiesdad

    jackiesdad Member

    Apr 13, 2008
  2. NoSix

    NoSix Member+

    Feb 18, 2002
    Phoenix
    There is an unwritten rule that only players on teams that at least make the quarterfinals qualify for individual awards. Note that USA made the quarters in 2002 when Donovan won the Young Player Award.
     
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  3. ty webb

    ty webb Member

    Aug 28, 2005
    NYC
    I don't think he was snubbed.

    The others gave up fewer goals. And Howard didn't have great games in our first two matches.
     
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  4. TheLostUniversity

    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Feb 4, 2007
    Greater Boston
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You know how FIFA is. Get no Quarter, Give no Quarter.
     
  5. Heist

    Heist Member+

    Jun 15, 2001
    Virginia
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm not sure total goals allowed has to be a big part of it. I do agree that he wasn't particularly great in the first two games. He wasn't bad either though.
     
  6. Silenti

    Silenti Member

    Jun 12, 2010
    Kansas City, Mo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    No Ochoa and no Howard as possibilities? That is total crap. Yet another reason to burn FIFA's HQ to the ground with them all locked inside.
     
  7. tbonepat11

    tbonepat11 Member+

    Jun 21, 2001
    Agree 100%.

    Navas and Neuer have been lights out this World Cup. Navas is single handily the reason CR made it as far as they did. Neuer is just the best in the world and continues this cup. Admittedly he hasn't had to do a ton but he has made some great sweeper keeper plays and great saves. Quality over quantity.

    I don't agree with Romero but if you get to the finals you get the nominations.

    Ochoa and Howard's big games involved lots of shots right at them....lets be honest. The top GK in the EPL every year is never on a team who gets scored on a lot or has to make a ton of saves. Winners get the awards.

    Big saves in big games is the key. 2 keepers in the finals seems fair
     
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  8. JeremyEritrea

    JeremyEritrea Member+

    Jun 29, 2006
    Takoma Park, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He wasn't snubbed.
     
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  9. Spursfan1

    Spursfan1 Member+

    Sep 7, 2010
    Atlanta
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Agreed. Neur and Navas were incredible.
     
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  10. Grumpy in LA

    Grumpy in LA Bringing It Since 1807™

    Sep 10, 2007
    Chicago
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    And Romero?

    I'm fine with Howard being left off. I just don't see why Romero was included.
     
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  11. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    And he made no saves in the last three rounds of the tournament.

    If you want to be on the Best XI, get to the quarterfinals at least, semifinals at best.
     
  12. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    1. How many Best XI finalists from non-quarterfinalist teams do you count?

    2. Grow up.
     
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  13. YankBastard

    YankBastard Na Na Na Na NANANANAAA!

    Jun 18, 2005
    Estados Unidos
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Maybe making a couple of saves against the Dutch in the semifinals during the shootout?
     
  14. YankBastard

    YankBastard Na Na Na Na NANANANAAA!

    Jun 18, 2005
    Estados Unidos
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I was more a little shocked and thought he might get at least the bronze glove for breaking the record of most saves and it might have put him over Navas. But in the end, when your team doesn't make at least the quarterfinals, a player rarely gets nominated.
     
  15. KALM

    KALM Member+

    Oct 6, 2006
    Boston/Providence
    Serious question: has there ever been a World Cup All Star player from a non-quarterinalist? (Obviously the winner of this award would make the Best XI.)

    edit: Looking back, I guess it does seem to happen once in a blue moon.
     
  16. CA to VA

    CA to VA Member

    Jun 24, 2009
    So Cal
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    16 saves .... 16 saves .... blah blah blah, 16 saves!!!

    Most of those were weakly struck or right at him.
     
  17. KALM

    KALM Member+

    Oct 6, 2006
    Boston/Providence
    Most saves any keeper makes can be dismissed that way, especially given the standard you appear to be using.

    But if you save more shots than any keeper in any recorded World Cup game ever, I'd say there's a strong possibility that you made more quality saves than the overwhelming majority of keepers ever make in a game of that magnitude.
     
  18. Cliveworshipper

    Cliveworshipper Member+

    Dec 3, 2006
    Here I thought this thread was about Howard Webb not getting the final...
     
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  19. Solid444

    Solid444 Member+

    Jun 21, 2003
    Jesus, tell us how you really feel.
     
  20. Cliveworshipper

    Cliveworshipper Member+

    Dec 3, 2006

    Actually, I would have suggested that before the cup.

    So nothing really changed.
     
  21. Cookham

    Cookham Member

    Jun 5, 2014
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    or "Give to Qatar"
     
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  22. lmorin

    lmorin Member+

    Mar 29, 2000
    New Hampshire
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Actually, according to the ridiculous Castrol Index, Howard did not even make the top 10 list of keepers. On the other hand, apparently he was he was #1 according to OPTA (which is probably an equally ridiculous rating system).
     
  23. Grumpy in LA

    Grumpy in LA Bringing It Since 1807™

    Sep 10, 2007
    Chicago
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The Castrol Index has been notably bad for this tournament. But, in fairness, I haven't been looking at it all that closely for the last couple years, so it may have been notably bad then too.
     
  24. Grumpy in LA

    Grumpy in LA Bringing It Since 1807™

    Sep 10, 2007
    Chicago
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    No, no they really weren't.
     
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  25. Grumpy in LA

    Grumpy in LA Bringing It Since 1807™

    Sep 10, 2007
    Chicago
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Then Tim Krul has a better claim to being on the list.
     

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