Howard and Cannon

Discussion in 'San Jose Earthquakes' started by Crazy_Quakes_Fan, May 29, 2003.

  1. Crazy_Quakes_Fan

    Crazy_Quakes_Fan New Member

    Jul 23, 2002
    San Mateo, CA
    With the likelihood of Tim Howard (the New Jersey Metrostars' starting keeper for those who don't know) moving to Manchester United constantly increasing, and with Joe Cannon likely to come back stateside (Lens' starting keeper has something like eight shutouts in thirteen matches), what are the chances that San Jose trades his rights to the Metrostars?

    If this indeed occured (the likelihood of which can only be speculated), who would New Jersey trade, and who would we want (be realistic)?
     
  2. Defender

    Defender Member

    Joe's Plumbing 86ers
    Feb 16, 2001
    San Francisco CA
    Club:
    Atlanta Silverbacks
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Maybe Craig Ziadie or Jacob LeBlanc (local ties) and/or draft picks. Just glancing at the roster, I don't see a player that we would want or could pry away.
     
  3. Ringo

    Ringo Member

    Jun 10, 2002
    Rough and Ready
    Club:
    Yeovil Town FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    could we get an allocation from them?
     
  4. IBleedTeal

    IBleedTeal Member+

    Jun 2, 2001
    Yves Fiat
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Why would SJ have Cannon's rights?!
     
  5. Sweeper

    Sweeper New Member

    Feb 11, 1999
    Because MLS did not re-sign Cannon (and since no other MLS side re-signed him), the Quakes still have the rights to him (much like Columbus having to deal for Paule or Chicago for Williams). How tight against the cap are you guys? Would you give up Cannon for cap-relief (like 40-50k worth?)
     
  6. Sweeper

    Sweeper New Member

    Feb 11, 1999
  7. Fah Que

    Fah Que Member

    Sep 29, 2000
    LA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Joe for Craig Ziadie is a trade I can live with. That gives us a real right back.
     
  8. dfb547490

    dfb547490 New Member

    Feb 9, 2000
    The Heights
    Personally I wouldn't be inclined to give Cannon up for anything. If Cannon wanted to come back to the States and the Metros were interested in trading for him I'd offer up Onstad instead (yeah, he's having a great year, but he's an SI, he's 35, Cannon is better and he's a crowd favorite).

    I can't find a link but I believe Cannon has said he won't play for anyone in MLS other than the Quakes.
     
  9. sj_quakes_fan

    sj_quakes_fan Member

    May 18, 2001
    San Jose
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I don't have a link either. But there is no way Franky is gonna give up Onstad for Cannon. He commented on this in an article somewhere. Something along the lines of Joe left and his career will move on.

    I'm pretty certain Joe won't be back with the Quakes. But I'd LOVE to see him go to the Metros. Would kinda make up for losing Timmy? :)
     
  10. sj_quakes_fan

    sj_quakes_fan Member

    May 18, 2001
    San Jose
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Actually, here's the link.

    And Franky's comment: "Coach Frank Yallop agreed that Cannon probably won't rejoin the Earthquakes in the near future. ``When you leave, you get your place taken,'' Yallop said. ``We're not going to be making any changes. He'll get on with his career.''
     
  11. Dave Brull

    Dave Brull Member

    Mar 9, 2001
    Mayfield Hts, Ohio
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Onstad is an SI? Call me the last one on the bus, but isn't he a Green Card holder due to his marriage to an US citizen. Or are they counting him as an SI.

    Out of touch so you'll stay in touch,
    DB
     
  12. TheSlipperyOne

    TheSlipperyOne Member+

    Feb 29, 2000
    Denver
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
  13. Quaker

    Quaker Member+

    FC Dallas
    Apr 19, 2000
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You're not out of touch, Dave. Onstad has a Green Card and doesn't count against our limit of three SIs. We've only got two SIs at the moment, and both are out injured these days (DeRosario, Ekelund).
     
  14. Toffees_rule

    Toffees_rule New Member

    Feb 11, 2000
    SFSU
    www.ussocceruk.com/ I think it's in either part 2 or 3 of the interview with one of the staffers at the site...you'll have to go back a bit to find it though.
     
  15. Albany58

    Albany58 Member+

    Sep 14, 1999
    Concord, CA USA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    In addition to the quotes given by sjqf, here's the URL to Soccer365's article on Joe and Frank. For those of you who think Cannon might come back to San Jose.
    http://www.soccer365.com/US_NEWS/Americans_Abroad/page_93_52327.shtml

    'While Cannon admitted that he could return to MLS, Earthquake boss Frank Yallop has declared that a homecoming is not in order.

    ”When you leave, you get your place taken,” reasoned the coach. “We're not going to be making any changes - He'll get on with his career.”'
     
  16. lurking

    lurking Member+

    Feb 9, 2002
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Im not sure exactly what the 'Quakes would want from the Metros at this point. I cant see anything on their roster thats appealing and yet doable.
     
  17. Noah Dahl

    Noah Dahl New Member

    Nov 1, 2001
    Pottersville
    Oh God...



    Ugh. I'm gonna try to not write another 483 expletive-riddled posts in response to this. Suffice to say it ********* me the ************ off.

    Bring Cannon back, and let him fight with Onstad for the starting job. Onstad is 35.

    Or at least make it appear that we value Cannon. Wouldn't that be a stronger position from which to negotiate?

    If Pat Onstad is more valuable to the Quakes than Joe Cannon - [pulling fist-sized shrapnel from intestines sound]Uuggghhh[pulling fist-sized shrapnel from intestines sound]- then how about trading him for Joey DiGiamarino and Jeff Moore?

    Moore's status with the Metros is probably similar to Cannon's with the Quakes.
     
  18. porkrind

    porkrind Member+

    Quakes
    United States
    Sep 27, 2001
    Bostonia
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
  19. sj_quakes_fan

    sj_quakes_fan Member

    May 18, 2001
    San Jose
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Oh God...

    Calm down there dear. Would you like to tell me what exactly it is that we would do with FOUR keepers?

    Joe chose to leave. As Franky said, his career will move on and has moved on. Joe made a choice. And now he's got some more choices to make. He'll be okay. He's a big boy who can do what he thinks is best for him.
     
  20. Noah Dahl

    Noah Dahl New Member

    Nov 1, 2001
    Pottersville
    Re: Re: Oh God...

    Response A: piss them off to France.

    Response B: How do you get four keepers out of Cannon, Onstad, Conway, and Saunders? I count two, maybe two-and-a-half total.

    Response C:Go "Chummin' with Jon Conway" at the first annual San Jose Earthquakes "Fishin' at the Farallons" Day.

    I'm sure you don't want me to continue.
     
  21. lurking

    lurking Member+

    Feb 9, 2002
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Ah.. I forgot about the allocation.
     
  22. TheSlipperyOne

    TheSlipperyOne Member+

    Feb 29, 2000
    Denver
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Remember, folks, that part of the reason Cannon left was monetary. Why would the Quakes be able to sign him for anymore right now? NY/NJ would have money to spend if Howard actually leaves.
     
  23. IBleedTeal

    IBleedTeal Member+

    Jun 2, 2001
    Yves Fiat
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Welcome Luchi Gonzalez back to the team.
     
  24. Noah Dahl

    Noah Dahl New Member

    Nov 1, 2001
    Pottersville
    Because A: The Quakes supposedly scratched up a suitable amount, but too late. So they had the money.

    And B: The Quakes also lost Wade Barret, Ariel Graziani, Jimmy Conrad, Devon Barclay and Luchi Gonzales then replaced them all with cheaper players.
     
  25. sj_quakes_fan

    sj_quakes_fan Member

    May 18, 2001
    San Jose
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Re: Re: Oh God...


    Yeah, you're right. I don't.

    But I guess that didn't stop you.

    :)
     

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