News: How to Topple an Authoritarian Regime

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  1. Quakes05

    Quakes05 Member+

    Oct 1, 2005
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    Outstanding. Sounds like you knew some of these dimwits though, like most of us. They deseve to be put on blast for not understanding what two-party system means, and, anytime they're whining about Trump, and project 25, and every single outrage, every single day...

    ...we need to remind them that they basically helped put the man there, if they weren't fighting hard for Kamala.
     
  2. Pemulis

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    Jul 10, 2024
    I thought this thread was irony.
     
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  3. Q*bert Jones III

    Q*bert Jones III The People's Poet

    Feb 12, 2005
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    I've been thinking about this a lot and it makes me physically ill.
     
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  4. superdave

    superdave Member+

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    Here’s the flaw in this thread.

    Everyone here is a follower, not a leader. Is there an organized effort to get everyone to cancel Disney Plus? No. So you cancelling is probably more performative than effective.

    Our leaders need to give us something to do collectively. And that’s been lacking.

    I’m not surprised that it’s lacking, and I’m not totally surprised that things have gotten this bad this quickly.

    Im surprised that both are happening.
     
  5. Tribune

    Tribune Member+

    Jun 18, 2006
    Speaking of authoritarian regimes, MAGA are basically scouring the Internet for mean posts about Kirk and reporting the authors to their bosses, in order to get them fired. In other words, the United States developed a class of professional political informants. STASI, here we come!
     
  6. Pemulis

    Pemulis Member

    Jul 10, 2024
    I think you're ignoring the leadership of the thread starter. He is inspirational.
     
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  7. chaski

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    Special Trump Administration Security Initiative
     
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  8. Sufjan Guzan

    Sufjan Guzan Member+

    Feb 13, 2016
    I personally subscribe to methodological individualism as proposed by Weber. From that stance and perspective I do what I can with what I can. And that's all that anyone can do. I don't have the ability as one person to stop this, but I can do what I can do and interact with who I can interact with.

    Right now that's identifying myself as part of the left that is being attacked so that people can humanize it, instead of just attacking a bogeyman. If something negative happens because of speaking out and something happens to me? Then I was no longer living in the America I was raised in anyway and who cares at that point.
     
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  9. Naughtius Maximus

    Jul 10, 2001
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    Nice of brummie to get his mum's take on the thread... that's always interesting :eek:

    :giggle:
     
  10. Potowmack

    Potowmack Member+

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    I've never been a fan of so-called cancel culture, but it's a monster that people on the left created, and now it's turned on them.
     
  11. superdave

    superdave Member+

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    Emmitt Till was cancelled. The Wobblies were cancelled. Paul Robeson was cancelled. Dalton Trumbo was cancelled. Miss me with this crap.
     
  12. babaorum

    babaorum Member+

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    It's the very nature of fascist regimes to use censorship, threats, intimidation, and to pretend to be victims of the actions of fabricated internal enemies (here: the supporters of the so-called 'cancel culture', a notion that no rational person is capable of rigorously defining... and for good reason: it's an idiot trap)
     
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  13. bigredfutbol

    bigredfutbol Moderator
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    Sep 5, 2000
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    My thoughts on "cancel culture" are that we have conflated the person with the public platform.

    Our hyper-individualistic, consumer-based society seems to regard having any sort of public platform as an individual right based on merit; but public attention is, IMHO, a public resource subject to collective social control, not an individual right.

    Nobody should be "cancelled" as a human being. No matter who you are, what horrendous views you hold, or what people think of you, you still have the right to hold a job, be safe and respected in your personal life, etc. But you do not have the right to public attention or a public platform. I would argue that public attention & influence are granted by the public and can rightly be withdrawn if/when the public decides "You know what? ******** that guy; give somebody else the attention we'd granted him."

    You have the right to free speech. You do not have a right to have that speech amplified or sanctified by public notoriety.

    My thoughts on this aren't well-developed, but that's a rough outline of how I look at this stuff.
     
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  14. Tribune

    Tribune Member+

    Jun 18, 2006
    No, it is not. The left "cancel culture" was driven by activists. That is not something anyone can actually control.
    The right "cancel culture" is driven by this: "When you see someone celebrating Charlie’s murder, call them out. And hell, call their employer” (JD Vance).

    This is the Vicepresident of the United States asking citizens of the United States to snitch on other citizens about statements the government dislikes.

    Can you quote a Democrat president or vicepresident calling on American citizens to snitch about comments the Democrat administration did not like?
     
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  15. Potowmack

    Potowmack Member+

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    For better or worse, the notion of free speech in the US really only applies to actions by government. That is, you can't be criminally charged for saying something unpopular or offensive (with some exceptions). However, US employment laws don't typically protect you from losing your job if your employer doesn't like what you've said, or just doesn't like the bad publicity.

    Unless and until a law is passed that you can't be fired for statements made outside of work, making fun of someone being murdered, or posting openly on a pro-fascist website, can get you fired. I've got mixed feelings about whether passing that type of legal protection as part of employment law would be good or bad.
     
  16. Tribune

    Tribune Member+

    Jun 18, 2006
    Don't take the lawyerly path on this, please. You know very well that authoritarian regimes can find workarounds without never formally violating the law.

    The government instigating mass firings can have pretty much the same result of destroying free speech, without the need to criminally charge anyone. Especially when it's the government who decides what is actually offensive.

    That is Vance is doing.
     
  17. bigredfutbol

    bigredfutbol Moderator
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    I love that movie so much. Nobody does a better job of making bad-art-within-good-art better than Guest & company.
     
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  18. Potowmack

    Potowmack Member+

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    What do you propose as a solution, then? Laws banning firing someone for (legal) speech outside of work? Like I said, I'm not necessarily opposed to that, but such a law would of course need to cover all types of speech.
     
  19. Tribune

    Tribune Member+

    Jun 18, 2006
    I am proposing for the President and Vicepresident to shut the hell up.

    Not necessarily. If your employer finds your speech abhorrent and wants to fire you, fine. However, it should be illegal for public officials to make calls to achieve this purpose, like urging the public to "call their employers".
     
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  20. yossarian

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    But is that what really happened here with Kimmel? If the FCC pressured ABC to make this decision in any way, that's arguably a First Amendment violation. In fact, a unanimous Supreme Court just said so less than two years ago.
     
  21. Potowmack

    Potowmack Member+

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    I want a threesome with my wife and Sophia Vergara, which probably has a higher chance of happening.
     
  22. American Brummie

    Jun 19, 2009
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    What about an unwritten system of rules that everyone agrees to? We could even call them norms.
     
  23. Sounders78

    Sounders78 Member+

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    Norms, you say?

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  24. Potowmack

    Potowmack Member+

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    I hadn’t even heard about that. Jesus, it’s like an endless firehose of odd news these days.
     
  25. American Brummie

    Jun 19, 2009
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    Why do so many of you post on topics when you don't even know the news on it.

    Nobody is making you
     
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