News: How Steel Tariffs Create Jobs

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  1. dapip

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    Prices are still going up, and they could go up even more.
    Retirement savings took a hit.
    Healthcare is about to become more expensive and millions more are about to lose their coverage.
    We had hurt research, safety and stability.

    If you're paying a little bit of attention, you'd know all that. But either people are not paying attention or they don't understand anything.
     
  2. soccernutter

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    Yeah, but most people are comparing things to recent memory. As in how things were in 2022 or 2023 when inflation was high(er). It's not bad now, and these tariffs keep getting pushed off. Plus, what is 10% compared to 145%? Plus, what is the difference between 6.75% interest rate and 7% interest rate on a home loan when you can't afford to buy the home in the first place (and 60% of Americans can't afford to buy a $300,000 home, and median home price is about $460,000).
     
  3. roby

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  4. What do you mean by this? Only 40% of Americans own their home?
    Sounds a bit strange. In Europe 70% of the people own their home. That's the opposite of the American situation. Are you sure about that?
     
  5. ceezmad

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    The real reason the tariffs came down.

    Just kidding, we know all of Trump stuff is probably exempt from the Tariffs.

     
  6. soccernutter

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    It literally means what it says. 60% of Americans can't afford to buy. Not that only 40% own their homes.

    If it does sound strange, then perhaps goolge what was said or what you think it said.

    Home ownership is roughly 65%, unchanged in the past 2 years.
     
  7. soccernutter

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    Liz Ann Sonders is Chief Investment Strategist, Charles Schwab

    Liz Ann Sonders
    @LizAnnSonders


    May
    @SPGlobalPMI
    U.S. Manufacturing up to 52.3 vs. 49.9 est. & 50.2 prior; Services PMI up to 52.3 vs. 51.0 est. & 50.8 prior; Composite PMI up to 52.1 vs. 50.3 est. & 50.6 prior

    Nice, right?

    Don't get your hopes up.

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  8. soccernutter

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    Tariffs are back.

    50% on EU

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    25% on iPhones from India

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  9. JamesA

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    The psycho strikes back.
     
  10. Smurfquake

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    He just had his crypto coin dinner last night, so he got his marching orders from his investors - attack the EU and Apple while they short sell stock.
     
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  11. MattR

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    Nice grammar. I think AI would do better.

    Stock market hasn't even reacted. I think they've learned that he's just blowing smoke until there is even a little whiff of pushback then he rolls.

    Maybe.
     
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  12. JamesA

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    In the short term. If it still stands June 1, down we go again. Until he blinks, at which point we up again and he declared victory with a new "deal".

    Overall though, it's the uncertainty and volatility that's killing things.
     
  13. bigredfutbol

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    I think one of the many reasons Harris lost was that in the minds of many voters, the debate about inflation got (very understandably) conflated with concerns about the cost of living overall. Making the argument that inflation was dropping and that Biden had done a reasonably good job managing it fell on a lot of deaf ears when prices are still high and the cost of, say, housing is ridiculous.
     
  14. taosjohn

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    With a side order of innumeracy.

    250 mil is nothing between continents... not even a nugget, just a flake in the pan...
     
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  15. Sounders78

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    I know of some airplanes that cost more :whistling:
     
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  16. roby

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    I don't think the Steal Tariffs should hold me back in my new endeavor.

    At Roby's Shoe Repair we will heel you, save your soles....we will even dye for you. Getting laced while you wait...add $4.50 per glass. :)
     
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    Leather or not, that seems like a good price.
     
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  18. roby

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    I can add some taps to yours if you want to dance around while we negotiate the price! [if it seems like a good price I didn't charge enough] :oops:
     
  19. chaski

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    These prices won’t last!
     
  20. superdave

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    Trump changed tariff policy via tweet again.

    I am increasingly skeptical that a CEO would base plant investments on Trump’s tariff policies lol.

    The temptation for his inner circle to participate in insider training would be hard to overcome for a Buddhist monk. For the reprobates who populate his inner circle it’s gotta be impossible.
     
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  21. soccernutter

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    You are not wrong. There is a divergence between soft data and hard data.
    https://www.schwab.com/learn/story/no-hard-feelings-soft-vs-hard-divide-persists

    And, today, some of both hard and soft data was released.
    Soft data: consumer confidence rose in every age and income demographic, and the overall is at 98 v. 85.7 as an estimate.
    Hard data: at the same time, the Dallas Fed Manufacturing Index is at -15.3 (granted, up from -35.8 prior month, and beat expectations of -23.1).
    Hard data: Spending is outpacing income, which backs up data sometime in the past week or two that CC bills are past due (a new high since the GFC, I think).
    Hard data: Core capital goods orders at -1.3 v. estimate of -0.2 and +0.3 prior month
    Hard data: Durable good orders at -6.3 v. estimate of -7.8 and +7.6 prior month

    I heard a note today, somewhere (Bloomberg?) that the sentiment is likely due to being collected post China tariff pause. Still, the two things don't match. I'd like to see the breakdown by political party, but it seems that, from a quick glance, previously which ever party holds the White House is significantly higher on the consumer confidence index. That tracks with other survey and polling data on the economy and political affiliation.
     
  22. soccernutter

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    Taking the student loans number out of the equation, this is still not good. I'm guessing, though, that the student loan issue will exacerbate all the other delinquencies.
     
  23. Funkfoot

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    Solution to the tariff problem.

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  24. ceezmad

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    Q1 contraction, but fortunately for Trump, the courts may save his ass if they uphold the ruling that his Tariffs are illegal.


     
  25. soccernutter

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    And this one is interesting.



    Corporate profits dropped by nearly 3% in Q1. But they have been climbing steeply since 2020.

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    I mentioned yesterday that it would be interesting to see how Q1 profits fared, and they are down.
     

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