News: How Steel Tariffs Create Jobs

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  1. Chicago76

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    Jun 9, 2002
    #351 Chicago76, May 14, 2024 at 3:31 PM
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    Not true. My dad is a fossil and he has lithium in his pacemaker.

    But more seriously, I wish the WTO would create two different tariff categories for India and China. China is sitting right at the cusp of high income and development by GNI per capita (World Bank) and HDI (UN). Split the tariff difference upper and upper middle income countries are permitted to levy for them and be done with it. Both countries are about 17% of total world pop currently. Tariff stability for them long term would be preferable for everyone. They’re good natural breaks for categories where they both split the difference between the higher and lower category.
     
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  2. argentine soccer fan

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    Right. Metals, not fossil fuels.

    Still, they are non-renewable resources mined due to our need for cheap energy, and mining them also has an environmental impact. Anyway, (directing this comment at MattR), I was just curious how far you were willing to go with your statement, and if as you say your reasons are mainly political and related to wars and the middle east, then yeah, I understand your answer and how it wouldn't apply to the metals that I brought up.
     
  3. ceezmad

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    You do know that we make a lot more shit from oil than just fuel, right?
     
  4. Mike03

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    Like all that plastic shit from the dollar store that ends up in the Pacific Ocean?
     
  5. superdave

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    What percentage of the barrels we get out of the ground go into fuels, and what percentage goes into other things?
     
  6. Chicago76

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    Jun 9, 2002
    About 75% is for some form of fuel IIRC.
     
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  7. MattR

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    Things like lithium batteries and nuclear power plant uranium are actually recyclable, it just costs money. Very different from the "mine and process then set on fire and then do that again" economy.

    Maybe we could take some of the $825 billion dollars we spend on the defense industry and put it to electrifying our power and transportation networks.
     
  8. Chicago76

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    Jun 9, 2002
    Lithium is recyclable. At least at a rate of approximately 80%. How we actually get everyone to recycle lithium is a different question though. We have about 100 million tons of the stuff, but we’ll be consuming 4-5 million tons of it annually soon enough.

    EVs and Lithium will be a bridge to the next transport and storage technology. Most likely hydrogen vehicles (smaller battery requirements) and flow batteries for renewable power generation.
     
  9. dapip

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    I personally hate this more:

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  10. The Jitty Slitter

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    what the actual?
     
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  12. Chicago76

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    I’ve seen bananas individually wrapped in cellophane at a small market near me. Incredibly stupid.
     
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  13. The Devil's Architect

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    Customers are ********ing lazy cunts
     
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  14. dapip

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