How Much Better Can We Get? - The Transfers, Rumors & Lies Thread

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  1. Bear Crotch

    Bear Crotch Member+

    Jan 2, 2008
    Ohio, United States
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    Spain
    Our pro elite strat of getting players to wind down their contract was either going to get clubs to be pissed at us or used against us in favor of the player.

    We got worked with Mbappe and Yoro. We better be more shrewd when it comes to dealing in the future.

    Again, you don't ******** around with the CB position especially when you're now looking a bit thinner in midfield now that a starter left and you may have to shift yet another midfielder into CB.

    This is still all while RB needs reinforced for the 8th season in a row and the jury is still out on Mendy and Fran's future. Not looking great to be honest.
     
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  2. 4x4s

    4x4s Moderator
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    Nov 26, 2006
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Davies is jumping in and out of that as well. His agent told Bayern that he's playing at the Copa to "maximize his value".

    These guys just have to be honest. How much do you want? What do you want? A player that can't commit and gets offers from everywhere is a potential risk.

    His club would've negotiated with us had the player signaled a lack of interest in negotiating with anybody else, but once he got on the phone with United our magical advantage went up in smoke.
     
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  3. Saeta Rubia

    Saeta Rubia Member+

    May 28, 2010
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    Real Madrid
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    Both are imaginary problems. No better RB than Carva last season and Lucas had a good year as back up. Both Mendy and Fran are under contract so next season shouldn't be a concern for LB.
     
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  4. Saeta Rubia

    Saeta Rubia Member+

    May 28, 2010
    Club:
    Real Madrid
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    --other--
    I hope Mendy renewal reports are true. Davies is in bad form and his agent is doing all the drama to secure 10 ME nett whether it's from Bayern or RM. I don't think there's that kind of market for him.
     
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  5. pramod

    pramod Member+

    Realmadrid
    Sep 4, 2006
    Hyderabad @ India
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    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    India
    Did Mendy renew? People are crazy with two good performance and seems to forgot his lack of pace that stiffled so many counter attacks and he constant need a support to help him in the defence also
    This season we are to suppose to sign a CB and Davies before nacho confirmed move but with his eminent move we need to sign CB that is bigger priority then signing a striker with more 150 millions signing fee
     
  6. Saeta Rubia

    Saeta Rubia Member+

    May 28, 2010
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    Real Madrid
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    I think he has 80 ME release clause or sth like that. And Valencia RM relationship is bad.

    Pacho is an interesting option for me. Frankfurt are a selling club too as opposed to the likes of Bastoni who would cost Gvardiol level fee from Inter.
     
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  7. J-Mezzy

    J-Mezzy Member+

    Real Madrid
    Colombia
    Oct 14, 2013
    Orlando
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    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia

    80??? The hell. And yeah Valencia sells to Barcelona but not us
     
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  8. Doni

    Doni Member+

    Dec 4, 2010
    London
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    Real Madrid
    I feel we’re going to go with a cheap short term option as the 4th CB, otherwise there would have been some reports linking us with the next suitable young talented CB, whoever they might be.

    Contrary to what some are saying in this thread, the general consensus is, yes we obviously need a 4th CB that isn’t up for dispute, and yes €63m is too much for a young CB in the last year of his contract.

    We have had star players come to us and reject more money and quicker paths to undisputed starter position at CL level clubs in the past to join us, in order to be at Real Madrid, Yoro wasn’t one of them. Not the end of the world.

    We have the two best CBs in the world in our team, with Alaba behind them. We have the best RB in the world, Mendy is once again looking like the Mendy under Zidane. Finding a 4th choice CB is hardly going to be an impossible task, our defence is absolutely fine, not like we’re searching for a Rudiger replacement.
     
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  9. J-Mezzy

    J-Mezzy Member+

    Real Madrid
    Colombia
    Oct 14, 2013
    Orlando
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    Real Madrid
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    Colombia


    the problem is we are an entitled fan base to a degree. There are plenty of solid CBs to be third or 4th option but our thoughts automatically are. NOT MADRID QUALITY!
     
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  10. Saeta Rubia

    Saeta Rubia Member+

    May 28, 2010
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    Real Madrid
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    --other--
    This seems to be the basis of Mosquera report in Colombian media. They talk about 30 M fee.

    He has a high clause, but apparently Lim set 40 ME pricetag this summer just like with GK Giorgi.



    https://www.canalrcn.com/deportesrc...mosquera-al-real-madrid-colomboespanol-187517

    https://www.antena2.com/futbol/real...biano-espanol-cristhian-mosquera-del-valencia
     
  11. J-Mezzy

    J-Mezzy Member+

    Real Madrid
    Colombia
    Oct 14, 2013
    Orlando
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    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia

    What do you think about him? I’ve read he is a great prospect but you know Cavs. Never easy to predict
     
  12. Saeta Rubia

    Saeta Rubia Member+

    May 28, 2010
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    Real Madrid
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    --other--
    He's a quick and atlethic defender who had a breakout season. Yoro's pass percentage is great while Mosquera's is good. Hard to predict with young players after one good season though.

    Baily impressed me vs RM with Villarreal like Mosquera this season, got the big move to Utd and struggled there. Though injuries were a big reason too.
     
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  13. Naz07

    Naz07 Member

    Aug 5, 2007
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    Real Madrid
    Who said the squad is great the way it is? Who do we assume we lost one instead of willingly gave up at that price?
     
  14. J-Mezzy

    J-Mezzy Member+

    Real Madrid
    Colombia
    Oct 14, 2013
    Orlando
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    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia

    He wants to play for Spain but in a summer where Spain had Euros and Olympics and he got called up for neither, he should really see he has no place there and pledge to his heritage and play for us
     
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  15. 4x4s

    4x4s Moderator
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    Nov 26, 2006
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    This is what the club is communicating via it's mouthpiece journos and I see a lot of acceptance from guys like @Saeta Rubia here.

    "Yoro's agents spun his head! They manipulated him"

    Reminds me of Florentino's "this isn't my Mbappe" then he proceeds to roll the red carpet for him.
     
  16. Saeta Rubia

    Saeta Rubia Member+

    May 28, 2010
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    Real Madrid
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    --other--
    Well, it's not like we got anywhere close to 50 M plus variables. French and English journos said we offered 20 M plus variables to Lille while Utd's accepted offer was 50 M plus 12 variables.

    And I have said we need to replace Nacho and there are enough cheap short term options in the market if we can't find a young talent.
     
  17. 4x4s

    4x4s Moderator
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    Nov 26, 2006
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    Real Madrid
    Good. Because I think if we go into the season as we are as is being communicated we're not only shooting ourselves in the foot, we're practically hurting Tchouameni's progress massively.

    Whoever buys this "the club doesn't need a signing" needs medical examination.
     
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  18. Doni

    Doni Member+

    Dec 4, 2010
    London
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    What’s the last time Real Madrid went into a season with three CB’s? This isn’t rocket science, we of course need a CB, whatever the media write about us not wanting a new one is just talk. No one in their right footballing mind thinks we’re OK for CB’s.

    The consensus is let’s get a short term alternative as a worst case scenario. It’s a 4th choice CB, probably the easiest outfield position to fill.
     
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  19. Dr. MvN

    Dr. MvN Member+

    Real Madrid
    United States
    Oct 22, 2018
    Estados Unidos
    You could argue the 2021-'22 team essentially went in with three CBs. Vallejo was the 4th CB that year too and he barely played.
     
  20. Digital

    Digital Member+

    Dec 10, 2012
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    The counter point will be less games then, we currently have 4 CB's, unfortunately David is injured, and the other one is ....... Vallejo , the best choice , get another CB, Yoro seemed to be the choice as he was supposedly the best young talent out there, didn't pan out,

    IMO the club could go either way, stick with what we have, use Tchou as a backup or promote from within if desperately needed until David fully recovers , whilst waiting for another top talent to emerge, this is not a farfetched scenario in my view although most likely to be frowned upon by everyone , or sign someone, anyone, just because......
     
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  21. Saeta Rubia

    Saeta Rubia Member+

    May 28, 2010
    Club:
    Real Madrid
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    --other--
    A worry is we did that in 2021-22. Vallejo was our 4th CB meaning we only had 3. But this time Alaba won't be ready to start the season and Militao also coming back from ACL so hopefully club doesn't take that kind of risk.
     
  22. Digital

    Digital Member+

    Dec 10, 2012
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    If performances at the recent Euros in particular (or the Copa for that matter) are an indicator of worthiness ( caliber) for Madrid, that leaves us with a few problems, apart from Dani, and maybe Arda/Eder
     
  23. Dr. MvN

    Dr. MvN Member+

    Real Madrid
    United States
    Oct 22, 2018
    Estados Unidos
    Yeah, trust me I only wrote that for the sake of answering a question, it definitely isn't an implicit endorsement towards the idea of doing it again. Pérez has been playing with fire with his CB management and somehow isn't getting burned in the process, but keep doing so and eventually he will.

    And using Tchou as the de facto first-choice backup CB (while Alaba's still injured) would just be exceptionally lazy and risky. I wrote at length a few days ago so I won't do it again here, but just because Tchou can play CB doesn't mean he should in anything other than occasional fill-ins out of necessity. If we want him developing as a #6, he needs to be playing as a #6, able to focus his attention in training as a #6. DM and CB are different roles, have different requirements, you play differently and have to see the game differently, and I don't want Tchou's development as a #6 blunted because he's being shuffled back and forth between the two positions. (This isn't even touching on that he's said he doesn't particularly like playing the position.)

    All I can say is that hopefully there's a plan. I can understand the club not publicly commenting on needing a CB as a means of helping with negotiations, but in private I think everyone knows what's up. To let two CBs walk/be sold and not replace them would be peak early 2000s squad planning.
     
  24. Galatico

    Galatico Member+

    Real Madrid
    United States
    Aug 15, 2019
    He chose United and that's all there is to it.

    We move on.
     
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  25. Saeta Rubia

    Saeta Rubia Member+

    May 28, 2010
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    Real Madrid
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