Bayern's undoing in some big games was their lack of a reliable CB. Same with Man Utd. Having Nacho as a reliable backup was a blessing some of us, and I include myself, failed to see. As they always say, "You don't know how good you have it until it's gone". I think Madrid should look to scout a young CB option from South America or Portugal. Those places have been a great source for quality defenders for Madrid over the years. I can't believe at one time Real Madrid had Pepe, Ramos, Varane and Raul Albiol for 2 CB positions. Marcelo and Coentrao for LB. Man was our defense STACKED.
Albiol was meh here. Another slow defender who struggled at RM. He had a good career at Napoli and Villarreal. RM upgraded by selling Albiol and promoting Nacho as 4th CB behind Ramos, Pepe and Varane from 2013-17.
Yea, U-19 goals not from PKs. It's from headers. Assist from Pol Fortuny for Spain U-19 against Turkey!!His 2nd assist of the tournament! pic.twitter.com/MFCSrzCav5— Real Madrid Fabrica (@FabricaMadrid) July 19, 2024
Seriously. It's a back up keeper. There's very little nuance to the position comparatively. They're either good or they aren't.
I am still pissed that we sold Marin before wrapping up Yoro’s singing. High probability does not mean certainty. I am not sure what is available in the market, but ideally we either sign a good prospect from Spain, or a cheap/loan deal for a veteran. It would be bad business to try a high profile signing in a matter of weeks. This should usually be the work of several months.
Militao cost us 50m when he was 21y old. This is why it is hard to believe that the price would have been the issue. One explanation could be that we wanted the price to be fair for a player 1y left on his contract. We waited too long until other
Some major flip flopping here between Varane joined us at the same age! Yoro will be fine and how Pepe and Militao were expensive as well but it paid off. I am absolutely certain if we would have paid the 60 the same people saying it's a bad deal would be here celebrating us getting a future starter for years and years and the price being "just the current market" Spare me the rest. We got worked. Now the club is trying to present a requirement as a luxury to spare itself some embarrassment after getting it's way in the market for years.
Sorry, I don't accept any of Perez's thrifty and arrogant approach, there is money in the coffers and he also made money from player sales this summer, all the time not paying and looking for players for free, if Barcelona who lack money in the coffers can make official offers on players we can also bring CB
We've been working on this deal for about 8 months and got it snatched right in front of our nose. You have to be a fool to believe "actually we don't really need a defender at all", like we're some cult followers. Please.
We chose not to pay 60 ME. If contract situation has no bearing, why we got Kroos for 25 ME while James cost 80 ME in same summer. Yes, we ourselves went crazy with Hazard, but such desperation is a bad precedent. Later got Camavinga for 30 M late in the window. Another example is we got Courtois for 40 ME due to expiring contract while Chelsea had to fork out 80 M on Kepa to be a replacement. We need a CB with Nacho gone. There are free agency options like Ramos, Hermoso too. Arrogance would be to not sign even cheap options as back up rather than refusing to fork out 60 ME for Yoro with a year left on his contract.
Yes. The issue is we got shafted for the second time after Mbappe in 2022. Then we put all the eggs in Mbappe basket and didn't really make an effort to sign Haaland due to that. Ended up getting neither. This time it's not as bad, but club was certain Yoro would join despite our limit being 30-35 ME and sold Marin who could have been Nacho replacement otherwise. They are used to players sticking to their word during tough negotiations from Modric, Courtois to Camavinga so probably have judgement issues out of complacency.
4x4 says that people who say we did well to not spend 60m would be cheering had we done so. But at the same time people who now say we should have paid 60 m be be screaming that is crazy and big mistake by the club had we done that. I trust the club, they have earned it. it would have been crazy to match MU offer in fee, wage, and promise to be a starter. As Saeta said, we would be foolish to not get a backup cb but there is still plenty of time for that.
60M € for Yoro is insane...Im glad we didnt pay that price.For that price we can find better and more experienced players.
Except not many are saying that, in fact quite the opposite. You’re taking the opinion of a few and making it sound like it’s the general consensus and then arguing against that. I would agree that he was “snatched right in front of our nose” had this happened over night, but this is not the case here. We had close to 2 weeks to make an improved bid and seemingly did nothing, even the reports almost died down immediately. To me, that looks like we weren’t willing to pay up/didn’t rate him at that price or just didn’t have the means to pull it off this summer, all legit reasons. I have no clue if the player is worth it, I haven’t watched him play, but clearly the club did and for some reason dropped out of the race/allowed United to take a lead on this. Only time will tell if they got this right or wrong. Until then, maybe give them the benefit of the doubt here. I would be concerned/surprised if we don’t get a CB or a DM before the end of the window.
We knew what his price was and we were haggling feeling super confident that he wouldn't play elsewhere, that we could bully his club into cutting us a deal. When we found out he would indeed be willing to earn a living elsewhere it's "people in his circle brainwashed him, and then Mendes the evil villain appeared and changed everything!" This is a player we wanted and negotiated out of a place of assumed advantage and we got worked. It's a failed transfer not some kind of misfortune of destiny. 50 mil. for a teenage hype from Brazil = bombazo epico Floren 60 mil. for Yoro = criminal, unrealistic, United got robbed!
Shifting goal posts again. We paid 45 ME for Vini and Rodrygo too. Should have paid 80 ME for best GK Courtois if that was the benchmark by ignoring expiring contract.
Brother, you're here posting all those novels about Yoro when it's clear somebody showed him they were more committed to go all in for him than we did. I actually like it from a player standpoint. Why should be risk his career just so the richest club can keep more of their money? It's ass backwards. Yoro did the right thing. It was on us to cast a wider net instead of be this fixated on him.
Our lack of awareness in terms of the players intentions and our hubris in feeling like nobody would want to play anywhere else. We lost one. I think just like we celebrate the wins we got to swallow this and pivot to something else instead of saying "the squad is great the way it is". No it isn't and whoever thinks so is a spastic.
When club were willing to pay 100 ME+ for Hazard, you had several posts mentioning how it's a huge overpay. Now club trying to get cheap deal for Yoro is a negative.
Someone in the Colombian forum mentioned that Marca linked us to Christian Mosquera but I haven’t seen that anywhere
Because Hazard was a fat man in a football players body. I was hating from the beginning and I got proven right and then some.