How Much Better Can We Get? - The Transfers, Rumors & Lies Thread

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  1. 4x4s

    4x4s Moderator
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    Nov 26, 2006
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    EVERYBODY should be performing at their best every game.

    That's why we pay them a fortune to do so.
     
  2. YOUNGSTARS87

    YOUNGSTARS87 Yellow C@rd Bandit

    Dec 21, 2005
    If he isn't scoring he should at least be running and showing effort to help defend.

    The problem is right now he does neither.
     
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  3. hector_br

    hector_br Member+

    Feb 13, 2007
    Replacing Joselu with Endrick was a huge mistake, by the way. He really brought something none of our players offer.

    Looking back, we had a PERFECT team last year. All positions and needs covered. What we have now is a chaotic and unbalanced roster.
     
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  4. arcane

    arcane Member+

    Aug 18, 2005
    Philippines
    What shocked me was me expecting Mbappe to improve the team’s finishing from last year’s wastefulness.

    But right now, I’m more confident Vini finishing the chance than him.

    Which is an absurd statement a year ago.
     
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  5. Ahmadi8

    Ahmadi8 Member+

    Apr 14, 2005
    Bahrain
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    Real Madrid
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    Bahrain
    Mbappe should be the best player on the field getting MVPs for almost every game.
     
  6. Ahmadi8

    Ahmadi8 Member+

    Apr 14, 2005
    Bahrain
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    Real Madrid
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    Bahrain
    To be honest nothing justifies him starting over Rodrygo right now.

    It's been woeful.
     
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  7. Hendrix22

    Hendrix22 Member+

    Feb 28, 2010
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    Real Madrid
    There is also the possibility that he is actually washed up and a shadow of the player he was. Its not likely at this point, but is possible. Sure hes relatively young but this is not linear; just as there are players who decline later than the average there are those who decline sooner. I see him being physically and mentally drained from the last few years of on field exertion and off field drama.
     
  8. saadomar

    saadomar Member+

    Real Madrid
    Mar 21, 2013
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    More it seems to me like you don't like that we're criticizing him and asking him to step up like Madridistas expected him to. Madrid banked big on a superstar and handed him a large contract. I legit went through a list of reasons of why he doesn't seem to be gelling with the team and your conclusion was that we're calling him washed. Okay.
     
  9. YOUNGSTARS87

    YOUNGSTARS87 Yellow C@rd Bandit

    Dec 21, 2005
    Rodrygo had been one of our best players before he got injured. We looked good in a trident with him.

    Yet for some reason we don't start him and we don't run a trident.

    I mean for FFS, if barca or others want to ruba high line, LET THEM. We should sit compact, invite them forward then counter on the break with the speed of our trident.
     
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  10. saadomar

    saadomar Member+

    Real Madrid
    Mar 21, 2013
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    Any other player and they would be benched. Madrid shot themselves in the foot by not getting a backup ST. Keeping the faith with Mbappe is well and good when he's getting the job done. But when he routinely falls flat, Madrid has left themselves with no options. What's worse is that going back to Jude being a shadow striker won't work either because even he has lost his edge, and there's no Kroos to make the midfield passing better.

    Florentino and Carlo should be phoning up Kroos asking him what it would take to come out of retirement, even when the odds are he will say no. This midfield has forgotten how to pass and it's relying on a 39 yr old to come on late to try and rescue this midfield. Hell ask Kroos if he will take on an assistant role to get these guys to pass better in training.
     
  11. 4x4s

    4x4s Moderator
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    Nov 26, 2006
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    That possibility applies to Bellingham as well. He hasn't had a great game in over 6 months arguably.

    Morata has more goals in the Bernabeu than Bellingham this season.
     
  12. Hendrix22

    Hendrix22 Member+

    Feb 28, 2010
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    There is a possibility sure but Bellingham is four years younger than Mbappe. Also I think his drop is more in the goalscoring department which can be attributed to positional change from last year and having to run extra to cover for the front three lack of defensive effort.
     
  13. Aensensen

    Aensensen Member+

    Jun 10, 2011
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nah, we were far from perfect as a functioning machine. But we made it work through hard work and individual brilliance. Joselu was missing chances left and right too, but he still had impact and managed to influence games.

    The guy we missed out on is obviously Kane, who would've been a really decent Benzema replacement. I was saying back then we should go for a 100mil Kane instead of waiting on Mbappe another year waiting on him to potentially renew yet again with PSG. Obviously Mbappe didn't leave us hanging again, but it does make me wonder what kind of a form we'd be in with him in our attack.
     
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  14. Deep Pal

    Deep Pal Member+

    Jun 19, 2013
    India,Kolkata
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    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    India
    Oh damn..the dp :D
     
  15. temesgen

    temesgen Member+

    Jun 27, 2004
    I know that but that is also the problem, he knows he can walk around and he's going to play, if I was the coach I wouldn't let any player feel untouchable.
     
  16. 4x4s

    4x4s Moderator
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    Nov 26, 2006
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    Funny, people used to say that a bout a lot of players in recent years.cJust have to look at the Kroos thread for proof.
     
  17. 4x4s

    4x4s Moderator
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    Nov 26, 2006
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    He was awful with the national team as well. It's the shoulder, the knee, the ankle. At this age, pretty bad.
     
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  18. temesgen

    temesgen Member+

    Jun 27, 2004
    I can look back at my earlier comments on Benzema's career on this very board, when JM used to call him a "cat." Even then, many people, myself included, recognized his work ethic. Mbappé, on the other hand, comes across as a lazy, entitled player, and that attitude just doesn’t fit here. Even if he scores 25 goals this season in the league (which he won’t), his approach is off, and it’s noticeable.
     
  19. temesgen

    temesgen Member+

    Jun 27, 2004
    We’ve commented on Kroos’s effort to tackle or track back to cover, up thru and even in his final season, but there were still plenty of positives, like his press resistance and passing. With Mbappé, though, he’s currently just taking up a spot on the field. He’s out of position, walking around, and there’s little good to highlight about his contribution right now.
     
  20. saadomar

    saadomar Member+

    Real Madrid
    Mar 21, 2013
    Club:
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  21. temesgen

    temesgen Member+

    Jun 27, 2004
    Kane was a better fit for our needs, many of us mentioned it at the time and while it's early days there is nothing to suggest we were wrong about that.
     
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  22. hector_br

    hector_br Member+

    Feb 13, 2007
    We lost what? One game the entire season? Team was near perfect man. Joselu missed chances but won us crucial matches. Vini and Beli were on fire. After the loss to Atleti, the team became a joy to watch.
     
  23. temesgen

    temesgen Member+

    Jun 27, 2004
    Exactly. No one reasonable expected him to have 20 goals by now, but we did expect to see the attitude and hunger to succeed.
     
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  24. Aensensen

    Aensensen Member+

    Jun 10, 2011
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    We were much better later on in the season, when Vini came back firing on all cylinders. But we were saved by Bellingham's brilliance quite a few times. And those points were VERY important. Even Brahim had moments of brilliance that saved us.

    It just wasn't a dominant well oiled machine that you'd typically want, but the team had spirit and the will to achieve. That's why people were calling us Friendship FC, saying we won with the power of friendship. Somehow, we have NONE of that at the moment.
     
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  25. Nir_O

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    Real Madrid
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    Mar 16, 2019

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