How Much Better Can We Get? - The Transfers, Rumors & Lies Thread

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  1. Raul-7

    Raul-7 Member+

    Real Madrid
    Spain
    Aug 17, 2006
    We got 4 from Barca too and we lost to Lille. ;)
     
  2. Galatico

    Galatico Member+

    Real Madrid
    United States
    Aug 15, 2019
    Man that Lille game was ROUGH.
     
  3. J-Mezzy

    J-Mezzy Member+

    Real Madrid
    Colombia
    Oct 14, 2013
    Orlando
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia

    I watch too

    the problem is the assumption that some other coach would do better just because.

    a coach’s job is to win. You want to get rid of a manager doing his job at a historically good rate because you don’t feel entertained and assumed, without any evidence whatsoever that someone else will do better
     
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  4. 4x4s

    4x4s Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 26, 2006
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    They lost to Aston Villa.

    We're basically not doing worse than Bayern all things considered (record/strength of opposition) but hey, it's your opinion.
     
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  5. libertao

    libertao Member+

    Mar 15, 2006
    Are we forgetting that, by all reports, our last manager was the one insisting on making the worst signing in club history, 100 ME on a talented but undisciplined 28-year-old entering the last year of his contract?

    Do you (or anyone else) know how that actually works in practice? Is it just assurance that the president and sporting director will listen to their requests? Or is it as formal as guaranteeing a certain amount of transfer and wage funds for the manager to control?
     
  6. benny_madridista

    Real Madrid
    Nov 30, 2020
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  7. Bear Crotch

    Bear Crotch Member+

    Jan 2, 2008
    Ohio, United States
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    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    Spain
    If this is a real thought by the board then their heads should be checked.

    What a gamble.
     
  8. fierro

    fierro Member+

    Jan 30, 2007
    El Chuco
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    Kaka and Shevchenko were both "projects" when they arrived at Milan, nobody was expecting Balon d' Or winners.

    But please do tell us how Carlo doesn't know how to mold youngsters into Balon d' Or winners. he clearly failed with Vinicius.
     
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  9. Excape Goat

    Excape Goat Member+

    Mar 18, 1999
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Perez needs to do something in January, but I have no idea. I doubt that he can sign Trent. The Saudi club probably will not allow Aymeric Laporte to go in the middle of their season. Ramos has passed his prime. Pepe too.
     
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  10. Digital

    Digital Member+

    Dec 10, 2012
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Imagine thinking players who helped our team to win two doubles CL and League are sub par or garbage, talk about fans being spoilt.....other fans out there can only dream of their players achieving only half of that, if that much, this is some tiresome stuff
     
  11. Digital

    Digital Member+

    Dec 10, 2012
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    I could be absolutely wrong but these seem like fans who started watching not that long ago and are intent on hanging Carlo out to dry, despite just not knowing.......
     
  12. Raul-7

    Raul-7 Member+

    Real Madrid
    Spain
    Aug 17, 2006
    More like you are denial over the fact that one of our best coaches no longer has a clue on how to steer the ship; it happens.
     
  13. 4x4s

    4x4s Moderator
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    Nov 26, 2006
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    Real Madrid
    So you mean he forgot how to do his job that he's done his entire life or what?
     
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  14. Saeta Rubia

    Saeta Rubia Member+

    May 28, 2010
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    Hard to keep up with daily Relevo trash.

    Anyone who would pass on Mbappe is incredibly short sighted. No top club in Europe would have done that despite some here having certain personal feelings towards Mbappe. :D
     
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  15. HZinho

    HZinho Member+

    Apr 2, 2013
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    It's amazing to me that people think the biggest club in the world will somehow allow a clueless person to run its cashcow division. This is football – you can't win it all, and you certainly will have difficulties winning a prize if the squad you're provided (intentional use: Carlo is a company man) is unbalanced and has significant holes in certain key positions. I expect Carlo to do better over the course of the year (and I hope he will), but as someone who's been following Real Madrid all his life, I'm more than happy with a manager like Carlo!

    And yes, if the team continues to 'struggle' and it doesn't get much better, then I also know that his position will be looked at. It's just how it works..
     
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  16. benny_madridista

    Real Madrid
    Nov 30, 2020
    I don't have to worship or to even support every single player that plays for the club.
     
  17. 4x4s

    4x4s Moderator
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    Nov 26, 2006
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    Real Madrid
    While I agree under certain circumstances, it's crazy to me that supporting this club causes so much heartache to people considering how freaking good we are across all sports.

    There's entire cities that have terrible sports teams and franchises that lose more than they win. Try that on for size.
     
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  18. arcane

    arcane Member+

    Aug 18, 2005
    Philippines
    I wonder how much delegation on tactics Carlo gives to Davide now.

    For all we know it might be Davide whos struggling with implemetation of tactics in training and Carlo just does in game management.

    We might be barking up the wrong tree.
     
  19. 4x4s

    4x4s Moderator
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    Nov 26, 2006
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    Real Madrid
    The change in coaching is not due a lack of competence or fundational knowledge, the team needs a new impulse. The old team is practically retired now, we have to completely rethink the process.
     
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  20. Dr. MvN

    Dr. MvN Member+

    Real Madrid
    United States
    Oct 22, 2018
    Estados Unidos
    This is pretty much where I'm at as well. I don't think it's an issue with Carlo specifically, it's more just that the team he was brought in to bring a new voice and a new style of play to, most of those guys are gone. When he came in, a little more freedom to figure things out on the fly was something that worked for the players we had. It suited their attributes better. We don't have anywhere near that same level of creativity in the squad now, telling these guys to figure it out with tools they don't have in their kit is going to lead to some unsatisfactory results. This group looks like they could use a more structured approach, and that's not really Carlo's M.O.

    It happens. Carlo's cycle was immensely successful, maybe if we're lucky there will be one more wrinkle this season that can reinvigorate this team. He's going to have lasted four seasons as Madrid manager, frankly that's an amazing accomplishment these days. Nothing to feel unhappy about and I'll continue to maintain forever that Madrid fans should kiss the ground he walks, he was the La Décima manager and won two more in addition to that.
     
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  21. pramod

    pramod Member+

    Realmadrid
    Sep 4, 2006
    Hyderabad @ India
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    India
    Carlos is a fantastic manager, but the team has been knocked down by injuries and the loss of Kroos, who was the engine of the team. The revenge attitude of the LaLiga has put a lot of pressure on the team. The league is one of the worst managed in the world, and is so corrupt that you would expect it to be in a subcontinent of Africa. Seeing the typical errors in a match, I sometimes wonder how the corrupt referees can sleep at night. I am sure that Carlos will be a scapegoat, and we must wield more influence in the league to protect the club's interests.
     
  22. pramod

    pramod Member+

    Realmadrid
    Sep 4, 2006
    Hyderabad @ India
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    India
    i credit carlos for bring a lot from our young players see how Vini jr evolved and Valverde - we have not yet replaced our old team players who left that is key problem , fix the squad and give opportunity to carlos and them we can say if he is good or bad
     
  23. boeder

    boeder Member+

    Real Madrid
    Brazil
    Feb 27, 2013
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    But we said the same about Fran Garcia when he was with Rayo Vallecano.

    The narrative has also been that "but Mendy is amazing defensively". He made his case this season. He's a blackhole.

    Its high time that Fran Garcia gets a proper chance.
     
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  24. Hendrix22

    Hendrix22 Member+

    Feb 28, 2010
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Miguel Gutierrez is way more talented than Fran Garcia, especially offensively.
     
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  25. benny_madridista

    Real Madrid
    Nov 30, 2020
    This season he has been Girona's main creative outlet with his intelligent underlaps.
    His technique and reading of the game is superior to both Fran and Mendy, easily.
    In case the eye test hasn't convinced people yet I suggest people look at some of his stats: crossing, getting the ball into the box, switching play with long passes, carrying the ball forward, he's very very good if not elite at all of those.
    It's about time he gets his Spain call-up.
     

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