You think a coach can make a player more agile? i think if a player is slow he is slow, no matter the coach. I'd feel bad about it because he's won us so many titles and right now, it's November.
There are 2 options here: 1.you don't understand how football works 2.you didn't understand what i wrote and just commenting on names. Marino looked very promising at Lyon, Luka Jović and Kolo Muani looked very promising at Frankfurt. Should i continue or you understand that "looks very promising" is bullshit.
The team has been out of Florentino's hands for years now. I think we promote the image that he's involved to satisfy his ego. The football decisions are made elsewhere.
We ought to. But that’s not what is. It’s called the Madrid hot seat for a reason, in case people have forgotten.
You can argue we got lucky with Zidane and Carlo. There's a future where we rotate managers almost annually again. Mostly because thats what a lot of fans are used to. They want heads to roll.
Well I can’t really say Zidane and Carlo were due to luck. Perhaps that they came almost right after each other that gave the illusion that Madrid has had longterm managers. I am not oppossed to Carlo staying if there are a lack of options. But it is starting to become concerning that the team has lacked any semblance of progress in attacking play and in defensive organization. I suspect he’ll revert back to almost exclusively counter-attacking/ catenaccio style when facing tough teams in the ko rounds of the UCL and have some sucess there.
Yet, we have been by far the most successful club in the last 10 years when it comes to UCL, you can make an argument of us not being anywhere close to having any kinda dominance in the league and i will agree with you on that, however, please let me know who is a good coach i) who is available now ii) handles the media well iii) has a proven track record iv) is good with moulding youngsters
Zidane and Carlo are not too different from another, Zidane was Carlos assistant after all, a spot he couldn't stomach holding with Mourinho, so it's easy to say that they have a lot in common. The moment we shift from that duo we're entering completely new territory.
Besides his lack of mobility, he has zero position awareness, zero tactical discipline, he is lacking the desire to compete with any midfielders in the team in general. Kroos/Modric have to point out the direction where Tchou is supposed to be running to when they play together. It sounds harsh but Tchou is a dead weight on the team right now.
Coach CAN improve a player. Remember when we were linked to Tchouameni? The other midfielder who was highly regarded at the time was Ryan Gravenberch. He was used sparingly by Bayern then again by Klopp at Liverpool. Now he's a pillar of the team under Slot and looks reborn. Carlo works best with a mature team like he did at Milan with Pirlo, Kaka, Shevchenko, Inzaghi, etc. or Madrid with Kroos, Modric, Benzema, Rudiger, etc. He let's players do their thing freely. While that works for WC players. It doesn't work too well with younger players who need direction and guidance.
We just have a different method of evaluating a coach. You check the title list every decade, I watch football regularly and observe patterns. You want a coach that can win three titles in ten years, I want a coach that can ensure consistent high probability to win, coherent playing style and gradual improvement of performances.
"Handles the media well" is a non factor for me. I don't know how it can be measured. Can you provide a range of coaches on a scale of handling the media? Any intelligent person should be able to handle media well, and if someone is considered for the Madrid post, it goes without saying its not some doofus that doesn't know how to say the right things in front of a microphone. Handling the media becomes an issue if you lose and/or don't play well or the players hate you. But if this is the case, not being able to handle the media is the last problem the coach has.
Carlo has won 2 leagues and 2 cls in the last 3 seasons not counting all the other minor trophies Far from 3 titles in 10 years and I’d say that counts as high probability of winning.
The principled difference remains. Some watch football, others read history in order to make their evaluations. For the latter group, context matters less. The concept of sample size as well.
All fair enough, but, yes i am simple, i want a coach who can win us titles, like Carlo, who has ensured a consistent high probability that we can win in his time with us shown by winning two doubles and the copa amongst others, i remember the old days when we won nothing and struggled mightily, Right now, despite how we play, Madrid as a team is more likely to win trophies than most other teams out there, yes, i am happy with that, i like the trophies that the team has won, a new coach guarantees nothing, so unless we are floundering around in midtable come the end of the season, i am still for Carlo getting time, i'll add to that i don't see Carlo as the sole reason this team looks as disjointed as they do, some players have to take a look at themselves As for the coherent playing style, we'd all love to see the team play better at this moment, but in the big picture for now i'll lump that in with the we play better football trophy that Farca always seemed to win before this season started, long way to go yet this season too. Of course he/she can, ironically, i remember vividly all the plaudits Carlo got for improving Vini after taking over from ZZ, you'd never believe all that was said here looking at some of the posts now when it comes to Carlo and "improving players" or giving young players a chance, still, no coach, no matter how wondrous can make a slow player agile, not happening
Not really. someone who is winning 3 titles in 10 years is called Arsène Wenger not Carlo Ancelotti. For the latter group you mentioned he fits perfectly. he ensured consistent high probability to win, coherent playing style and gradual improvement of performances. this also fits Arteta since he started to coach Arsenal( improved their points tally for five seasons in a row).
That we signed that guy while losing Kroos, our CBs quite literally playing injured and our FBs aside from Carvajal being sub-par or garbage it's absolutely disastrous management from the club. 🚨 Real Madrid planned more rest for Rüdiger this season as he has played a lot of minutes.However, Yoro not coming, Alaba recovery, Nacho leaving and Joan Martinez injury has made this NOT possible. Real Madrid have concerns for his knee from past injuries. @Rodra10_97 pic.twitter.com/sH1Sy1H0NW— Madrid Xtra (@MadridXtra) November 3, 2024
Absolutely no guarantee your greed will be sated, and i like Xabi, with those 96th min wins and all, we liked the football but lets not pretend like there was total dominance going on there, we scraped wins so did Leverkusen,
Are you really comparing Leverkusen to Real Madrid? Kompany got Burnley to the PL then got relegated within their first season; now he's doing really well at Bayern. I wonder why...
Handles the media is especially important for a club like Madrid, you have followed the club long enough to know that. For an example see what Carlo, Zizou has done and compare it to what Mou did during his time here.
He got a 4 piece by Barca, funny how for him thats doing well but for others proof they're not up to snuff anymore.