How Long Can Tim Stay Perfect?

Discussion in 'Yanks Abroad' started by Femfa, Sep 18, 2003.

  1. monop_poly

    monop_poly Member

    May 17, 2002
    Chicago
    [sarcasm] Only as long as the referees don't screw him and allow other teams to score against Utd. like the ref did at St. Mary's ... the filthy cheater who doesn't understand the whole Tim Howard is God mentality.[/sarcasm]

    [real answer] Until the Chicago Fire play at Old Trafford and light him up like in MLS days of yore. [/real answer]
     
  2. TheSlipperyOne

    TheSlipperyOne Member+

    Feb 29, 2000
    Denver
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
  3. jri

    jri Red Card

    Sep 28, 2000
    boca
    Shouldn't goal/fans behind goal be known as "Howard's End"?

    On 2nd thought, and given average age around here, maybe that bit only appreciated in England (smile)..
     
  4. Femfa

    Femfa New Member

    Jun 3, 2002
    Los Angeles
    I say he keeps a clean sheet for five home games, then gets scored on, even though Man U still wins.

    I'm a dreamer, but who expected him to start in the first place?


    Howard's End was a good flick - people can also call Timmy "Sir Howard" as a ref to Sir Hopkins starring in that movie.
     
  5. dark knight

    dark knight Super Moderator
    Staff Member

    Dec 15, 1999
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    Leeds United FC
  6. soccernutter

    soccernutter Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 22, 2001
    Don't drink beer but like cheese
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    Tottenham Hotspur FC
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    United States
  7. babytiger2001

    babytiger2001 New Member

    Dec 29, 2000
    Melbourne
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Another related article I just came across-- from an Australian site, from foxsports.com.au, and there are some genuine talking points in it, in terms of the build-up towards the big game against Arsenal this weekend...

    http://foxsports.news.com.au/story/0,8659,7310747-23215,00.html

    Mentions:

    • Two shutouts in a row, four clean sheets overall and a winner's medal (as well as hero status) from the Community Shield;
    • Key quote #1: "Arsenal are coming into our house and we have to stop them from taking it," said Howard. "We got ahead of them in the Community Shield and they will be hungry to avenge that.

      "They also have one of the most talented strikeforces in the game, so they will come at us all guns blazing. I'm sure people will say it is my biggest test but I will just try to prepare as normal."

    • Key quote #2: "I have been given a wonderful opportunity but I just want to try and keep things in perspective," he said. "I sometimes have to remind myself that I am only 24 and I still have a lot to learn."
    • Article also provides a general overview of all of the weekend's Premiership matches.
    Good stuff, worth a read and some discussion on Tim Howard.
     
  8. soccerfan

    soccerfan BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 13, 1999
    New Jersey
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Our premiership keepers played 5 games each, Friedel allowed most goals at 11, Keller 9 and Howard just 2. I have seen 4 out of 5 Man U games and Howard has had a few easy games not much to do. Of course he has a very good defence in front of him . Arsenal should test Howard on Sunday at the level that Southampton has a few weeks ago or maybe more so.
    Who do you think are the other teams that will be a big challange to Howard ? the teams that come to mind are Chelsea, Man City, Liverpool, Everton, and Blackburn.
     
  9. RBourd52

    RBourd52 Member

    Jul 23, 1999
    Woodbridge, CT
  10. Space Ghost

    Space Ghost New Member

    Aug 3, 1999
    joisy
    So how long is Timmy's contract? how long before he can negotiate for the really BIG money? Am I getting carried away with myself?
     
  11. babytiger2001

    babytiger2001 New Member

    Dec 29, 2000
    Melbourne
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That sounds about right-- but by the time he gets around to playing those teams, his confidence and how comfortable he'll be at Old Trafford and in Ferguson's first XI, dealing with those teams' attacks shouldn't be much of a problem.

    When does Man Utd play each of those teams listed above? Anyone know? I think the Manchester derby is sometime in December, IIRC, but what about the rest?

    Still early days yet. But you can't fault him for making a strong initial impression. :)
     
  12. Femfa

    Femfa New Member

    Jun 3, 2002
    Los Angeles
    That's true! I'd forgotten all my Confed Cup posts (due to our rather poor performance - I tend to block out painful associations).

    In this current thread, I was also pretending to be more objective than I actually often am. I was pulling for Tim all along. It's funny that I couldn't put that past BS posters with good memories and a recall post feature.

    "Perfect" is also different from "lasting" which would seem to better justify a sexual connection. Because, at least this time, I wasn't going for the double entendre.

    I also think Chelski and Liverpool will score on Timmy - but I'm not sure how strong my prophetic powers truly are.
     
  13. babytiger2001

    babytiger2001 New Member

    Dec 29, 2000
    Melbourne
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  14. russ

    russ Member+

    Feb 26, 1999
    Canton,NY
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  15. russ

    russ Member+

    Feb 26, 1999
    Canton,NY
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Same story as William's basically.We must have simulposted.
     
  16. babytiger2001

    babytiger2001 New Member

    Dec 29, 2000
    Melbourne
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Seems like almost exactly the same article, basically. Which is still pretty cool, seeing that the Press Association in the UK is sending their stuff out to multiple sources.

    The more ink on Timmy, the merrier. :)
     
  17. babytiger2001

    babytiger2001 New Member

    Dec 29, 2000
    Melbourne
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yeah, that's the ticket, Russ. Something like that. :p

    Actually, as I said above, I think it's a matter of the PA being able to mass-syndicate its content.
     
  18. soccerfan

    soccerfan BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 13, 1999
    New Jersey
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    here is this years schedule, the month of November looks very tough

    Sun 21/9 Arsenal (16:05, live TV) H
    Sat 27/9 Leicester City A

    Wed 1/10 Stuttgart v Manchester United Uefa CL
    Sat 4/10 Birmingham City H
    Sat 18/10 Leeds United (12:00) A
    Wed 22/10 Glasgow Rangers v Manchester United CL
    Sat 25/10 Fulham H

    Sat 1/11 Portsmouth H
    Tue 4/11 Manchester United v Glasgow Rangers CL
    Sun 9/11 Liverpool (12:30, live TV) Away
    Sat 22/11 Blackburn Home
    Wed 26/11 Panathinaikos v Manchester United
    Sun 30/11 Chelsea (16:05, live TV) A

    Sat 6/12 Aston Villa H
    Tue 9/12 Manchester United v Stuttgart CL
    Sat 13/12 Manchester City (12:30, live TV) H
    Sat 20/12 Tottenham Hotspur A
    Fri 26/12 Everton H
    Sun 28/12 Middlesbrough A
     
  19. babytiger2001

    babytiger2001 New Member

    Dec 29, 2000
    Melbourne
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Thanks for providing this, SF. Very helpful, indeed....

    My analysis/thoughts...

    Can't wait for this one tonight (nighttime here), obviously. We will get the game here live on pay-TV, via Fox Sports 1 at 1 a.m. Sunday night, but we don't get that channel on our cable system here in my town. So I'll have to settle for the webcast from www.manutd.com (if I can figure the damn thing out)...

    The fact that Tim's played against the Gunners already this season, in the Community Shield match, may give him an advantage in tonight's match.

    Should have an easy time of it against the Foxes.

    Could be tricky, since I think that VfB gave Rangers some troubles this past week?

    Should be another couple of easy games for Man Utd, and Timmy. Six points out of six, and perhaps two more clean sheets.

    The back-to-back games against 'Gers could be a bit tricky, for the emotionally-charged cauldron-type atmosphere, if for no other reason. These games may very well say a lot about Tim's mettle as a big-game 'keeper.

    But perhaps another couple of clean sheets against Premiership opposition.

    Probably not the kind of game Man Utd need following a high-pressure match in the Champions League.

    However, Tim will be quite battle-tested by big-name foes by this stage, that's something that won't be in doubt.

    A battle between two American 'keepers, Howard v Friedel... what more needs to be said? :D

    Should be a repeat effort from this past midweek's affair. No worries for Tim.

    Likely four points out of six for the Red Devils. Chelsea will up to this point be the toughest opposition outside of Arsenal that Man Utd will face in the league, and could put a couple past Howard. Tim should get a clean sheet against Villa, however.

    Once again, another tricky Champions League match, but playing at home in the "Theatre of Dreams" will help.

    Ah, the Manchester derby, with two guys with New Jersey backgrounds, Howard and Reyna, facing off against one another (hopefully).

    Will definitely be exciting to watch.

    I wouldn't count on Tim to get a clean sheet in this one, Man City have a very potent attack this season.

    But maybe a key save or two can play a role in United winning the derby.

    The way Spurs have been going lately, could be chicken feed for Man Utd and Howard. But who knows, Spurs may get things right by this point.

    All things considered, though, might be an easy match for Tim.

    The one intangible, however, is that Howard goes up against Kasey Keller in yet another showdown between American goalkeepers...

    Perhaps two of Man Utd's easier matches so far, at least on paper. However, will the two-matches-in-three-days stretch take something out of them, and perhaps Howard as well?

    I think Tim's got the mental and physical maturity to deal with it, and play well.

    All in all, while November could be a tricky stretch, I think by the time we get to January, Tim Howard's calibre will be well-proven as one of the best 'keepers in the Premiership. One thing's for sure, he won't embarrass himself, and will definitely be playing at the same high level he's enjoying now.
     

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