How Kerry is failing the "foreign affairs" test.

Discussion in 'Politics & Current Events' started by DoyleG, Apr 19, 2004.

  1. MikeLastort2

    MikeLastort2 Member

    Mar 28, 2002
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    Very misleading thread title. This story has nothing to do with John Kerry's foreign policy, and everything to do with Canadian beef.

    Seems you might be suffering from a touch of mad cow yourself, Doyle.
     
  2. DoyleG

    DoyleG Member+

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    You guys didn't read the article at all.

    Her's another article that mentioned it.

    http://www.canoe.ca/NewsStand/EdmontonSun/News/2004/04/16/423225.html
     
  3. ratdog

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    Mad cows = Canadian WMDs? We'd better pre-emptively non-aggressively invade!

    Let's see. Bush pisses off our allies and throws away all U.S. credibility in order to attack the wrong target and then utterly fecks up his little war through a series of miscalculations and you're giving him a free pass while moaning about Kerry irritating Canada over mad cow beef?

    *sniff sniff*

    I smell Bushie desperation.
     
  4. DoyleG

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    Re: Mad cows = Canadian WMDs? We'd better pre-emptively non-aggressively invade!

    I'm critical of Bush for not opening the border competely to beef. The science is against the border closure.

    At least I don't kiss Bush's rear.
     
  5. DJPoopypants

    DJPoopypants New Member

    Re: Mad cows = Canadian WMDs? We'd better pre-emptively non-aggressively invade!

    Why do you hate america and want to see patriots turned into brain-decayed zombies just for going to July 4th BBQ's?
     
  6. MikeLastort2

    MikeLastort2 Member

    Mar 28, 2002
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    You "guys?" I'm the first one to respond (Dustin deleted his reply). And you send me negative reputation points because I "didn't read the thread properly?"

    :rolleyes:

    Canada DOES have lax testing standards for mad cow. It's obvious that you ate some yourself.

    And your thread title still is misleading. The article has NOTHING to do with John Kerry passing a "foreign affairs" test. Hell, Canada is pretty much another US State anyway.
     
  7. DoyleG

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    Re: Mad cows = Canadian WMDs? We'd better pre-emptively non-aggressively invade!

    I'm in a beef province and have been eating tons of it for years. I don't have any of the side effects related to NVCJD.

    Besides, you Americans surely don't want to pay through the nose for crappy American beef (except from Montana and some Texan beef). Or pay for a house made from expensive and poor quality American lumber than high-quality and cheap Canadian lumber?

    If so, you don't need our oil either.
     
  8. bigredfutbol

    bigredfutbol Moderator
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    This is a trade issue, not foreign affairs.
     
  9. DoyleG

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    No my fault you can't read properly. Blame Bush for that :D.

    Yet we've done much better testing than you would like to believe. We test far more of our cattle than you guys do. By looking at that avtar you got, it seems you've eaten much of that bad beef yourself.

    Given that ranchers on both side of the border often cross-breed their heard with each other, the cattle can be easily considered as American as it would be Canadian. That's what happens when you live too far away from the situation to know anything about it.

    And I'm talking about you wiseguy.

    As for the foreign affairs test, Kerry has stated he wants to improve foreign relations. The fact we catch his statements shows he's failed the first test.
     
  10. DoyleG

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    They are one in the same.
     
  11. Roel

    Roel Member

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    Doyle, how do you feel about Bush invading the wrong country?
     
  12. bostonsoccermdl

    bostonsoccermdl Moderator
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    What does Bush have to do with this thread and article? Whether or not you support Bush and his decisions, it is irrelevant to this particular topic.

    It is possible to be critical of Bush AND Kerry and not have to resort this kind of playground mentality..

    Judge the thread and article based on its own merits..
     
  13. Dan Loney

    Dan Loney BigSoccer Supporter

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    Who's "we"? The spongiforms elect you their spokesman, or something?
     
  14. bigredfutbol

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    How?

    By the way, us dumb Americans say "one AND the same." :D
     
  15. Roel

    Roel Member

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    Simple. The only reason any of us care about Kerry is because he wants Bush's job. If Kerry is to be given a "failing" grade by a partisan poster on BigSoccer, we need to understand how the grading curve is structured. If Kerry is "failing the foreign affairs test" based on his suggested trade policy regarding Canadian beef, then how do the other participants in the test rate? I'm very concerned, since the other prime contender for the presidency doesn't even know which country to invade after getting bombed.

    If Kerry gets an "F" for Canadian beef trade policy, what does Bush get for not dealing with Saudi Arabia or Pakistan?
     
  16. TheWakeUpBomb

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    You're absolutely right, Roel. It's not like there are any other threads discussing Bush/BushCo./Bushies/Bush Junta/5-4 on the politics board.
     
  17. DoyleG

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    Right country, wrong reasons.

    I give Bush a D- on handeling the war's aftermath. Same grade for dealing with Saudi Arabia. D+ for Pakistan.

    Those of us who pay attention to what Kerry says.

    Your dealing with a foreign country, no matter how you slice it.
     
  18. Roel

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    If Iraq was the right country, why did he have to make up reasons to go after them? I agree with the Pakistan grade. Bush fails with Saudi Arabia. James Baker is a lobbyist paid for by the Saudi royal family, and he has an office in the White House. Bush clearly gets an "F" if the following warrants an "F."

    From the article:

    "The senators -- including Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry -- say Canada has lax testing standards for mad cow disease.

    "The U.S. is reviewing public comments on a proposal to admit live Canadian cattle, banned since the discovery of mad cow disease in Alberta last May. "

    By the way, I agree that Kerry will done an inadequate job at foreign policy, much like Clinton came up short. More like a "C". But neither are the spectacular failure that Bush is. That said, I think your grading isn't fair. We haven't seen anything yet that indicates failure from Kerry.
     
  19. DoyleG

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    Americans have been well known as "reluctant" to get into conflicts even when the reasons are overwhelming to. Would you rather wait for another "cheap shot" before getting in.

    Yet Clinton can easily get a lower grade for his handling of Somalia, Kosovo, and of Iraq. People complain about Clinton being all talk, no action.

    That may depend on what one might be talking about.:D

    Kerry wrote a letter that stated not wanted the US to become a "dumping ground" for foreign beef. This is no different when you heard the same about Japanese cars and electronics. He turned it from a health issue, which now has no merit, into a trade issue. He should learn to stick to one side and stay there.

    No doubt that there were people here that would be willing to work with Kerry. Now that's not likely the case.
     
  20. bigredfutbol

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    That's casting the net pretty wide. I see it more of a trade/domestic health/protectionist issue, but maybe this is all semantics anyway.
     
  21. spejic

    spejic Cautionary example

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    Re: Mad cows = Canadian WMDs? We'd better pre-emptively non-aggressively invade!

    Because Cheney does not think that the American public can handle the truth.
    If Canada actually tries this, we will be getting a new and very large 51st state.
     
  22. ratdog

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    This thread is hilarious.

    Bush pisses away the greatest outpouring of global goodwill towards the United States since I don't know when, destroys U.S. credibility around the world, and utterly screws up his war and occupation. His untruths about WMDs are exposed and he's losing countries in his coalition of the shilling.

    And yet Kerry is a "foreign affairs failure" because of some obscure mad cow tiff with Canada.

    Attacking Minded, I salute you. You're a comedy genius.
     
  23. DoyleG

    DoyleG Member+

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    Isn't anything that doesn't involve the Fire obscure?

    I'll let you go back to your tofu and prune yogurt.
     
  24. MikeLastort2

    MikeLastort2 Member

    Mar 28, 2002
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    So is you're latest kick to base your replies on which team a poster happens to list in their profile? Why do you continue to comment on AMERICAN politics when you live in Canada?
     

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