How do you want to do CL Predictions - 2nd Round?

Discussion in 'UEFA and Europe' started by kevbrunton, Nov 14, 2002.

  1. kevbrunton

    kevbrunton New Member

    Feb 27, 2001
    Edwardsburg, MI
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I posted this in the Matchday 6 thread, but figured I'd better do a new thread so everyone will see it.

    How do you want to do the 2nd round of the Predictions League?

    Do you want to start over and have the 2nd round be a whole new competition? That would be fairest to the guys that have come in over the last 3 matchdays.

    Or do you want to continue the competition and have a 2nd phase champ and an overall champ?

    It doesn't matter to me.

    I purposely didn't put this as a poll because I want to SEE who is voting.

    If you haven't played before and you vote to start over with a clean slate, I'd expect that you'd be stating your intentions of participating in the 2nd phase, correct???
     
  2. AFCA

    AFCA Member

    Jul 16, 2002
    X X X rated
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    Iran
    I'd say the most logical thing to do is both. For the newcomers we can do a new 2nd round and for the people who have been playing longer we could also continue where we left off. If you can have it both ways why not? (OK it means more work for you maybe, so it's your decision I guess)
     
  3. Spartak

    Spartak Member

    Nov 6, 1999
    Philly
    Club:
    AC Milan
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I vote for both.
     
  4. jd6885

    jd6885 Member

    Jun 30, 2001
    Tacoma
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'll stuff the ballot with my 123,342,532,107 votes for BOTH! It'll be like the Tour de France in which each stage there is a winner and an overall winner for the whole kit-n-caboodle
     
  5. kc123

    kc123 Member

    Jun 29, 2002
    Let's do both.
     
  6. dougthelegend

    dougthelegend New Member

    Nov 8, 2002
    Gunnedah
    well, being new, and wanting to participate :p i vote for the one where i get to join in :):D
     
  7. appoo

    appoo Member+

    Jul 30, 2001
    USA
    I also say both....but since there are less games should we change the scoring at all? It'll be rather hard to make up ground if there aren't points to be had, and plus you should get rewarded for predicted well because it'll be MUCH harder. I mean ManU vs Barca, Inter vs Depor, how the hell do you predict those games with any certainties? We'll have 4 groups of death
     
  8. Brihodge

    Brihodge New Member

    Apr 27, 2001
    Unterwegs
    Both, I want a chance to win the whole thing.
     
  9. AFCA

    AFCA Member

    Jul 16, 2002
    X X X rated
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    Iran
  10. kevbrunton

    kevbrunton New Member

    Feb 27, 2001
    Edwardsburg, MI
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I was thinking about this exact thing.

    There are 9 players who played all 6 rounds in the 1st phase. Plus 2 others who played 5 rounds but did well enough to be close -- I shown them below. Then there is a 20 point drop after that.

    Brihodge............ 152
    AFCA................ 150
    kc123............... 149
    Dr. Wankler......... 145
    KiQuE............... 142
    bocatuna............ 131
    Spartak............. 127
    IASocFan............ 125
    appooOnU............ 122
    Belgian_guy......... 118
    jd6885.............. 117

    If we leave the scoring the same for the 2nd phase, there's very little chance for the bottom 6 to make up ground and have a realistic shot at winning overall.

    I think I agree with appoo on this one.

    There are half as many games in the 2nd phase. Should we just double the points -- 10 points for correct score and 6 points for correct result?

    Or should we do it more like 8 and 5?


    By the way, I'd say it's pretty much unanimous, we'll do both -- have a 2nd Phase champion and keep an overall champion.
     
  11. kevbrunton

    kevbrunton New Member

    Feb 27, 2001
    Edwardsburg, MI
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yes, we welcome new players. We'll crown a Phase 2 champion, so you can compete for that. We also had several players start in the 3rd game or so that stuck it out in Phase 1, so they'll have a shot at competing for the Phase 2 championship.
     
  12. AFCA

    AFCA Member

    Jul 16, 2002
    X X X rated
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    Iran
    Why should we change the points?
     
  13. Mayo_Bhoy

    Mayo_Bhoy New Member

    Jul 15, 2002
    Ireland
    CL Predictions?

    How does the point scoring work?
     
  14. 1800-WorldCup

    1800-WorldCup Read Nomadic Gatherings - TravelNotes.org/magun

    Tottenham Hotspur
    England
    Aug 5, 2001
    Europe
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Are you worried that newcommers will catch you up.

    If those at the top are good enough, they should not feel threatened by a points increase.

    Keep getting your picks right, and you'll get to keep your lead....

    Stumble, and you'll get overtaken.

    :D
     
  15. AFCA

    AFCA Member

    Jul 16, 2002
    X X X rated
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    Iran
    There is no reason to change the points IMO. That's all.

    Scared? Never :) (almost never)
     
  16. kevbrunton

    kevbrunton New Member

    Feb 27, 2001
    Edwardsburg, MI
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: CL Predictions?

    See the MATCHDAY 7 prediction thread -- which is where you'd need to post your picks anyway.
     
  17. kevbrunton

    kevbrunton New Member

    Feb 27, 2001
    Edwardsburg, MI
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I can think of 2 reasons --

    1) Because given the closer level of play, it SHOULD be harder to pick and therefore, you should be rewarded more for picking correctly.

    2) To give a chance for those that didn't do as well in the first phase to regain lost ground in the second phase.

    For point 1...

    The biggest "predictions" thing I've ever been involved in is the NCAA tournament pools that a lot of us have either done or seen. In almost every pool I've ever been in, you get more points for correctly picking 2nd round, 3rd round, etc. than you do for the 1st round.

    There was one time when I was in one that had a straight 3 points per game -- throughout the tournament. Well, you know what, someone did VERY well in the first round games (yours truly) and half way through the second round, I had the pool sewed up. Kind of took the fun out of being in the pool.

    For point 2...

    Basically, everyone so far has had 96 games to earn their points and to earn the lead that they have. Now there's only 48 games in the 2nd phase. If you remember, I said that after Matchday 5, there was the top 4 and then a 20 point drop back to the next group. There was no way anyone could make up that 20 point deficit in one matchday.

    Well, if we left the points the same and we'd be looking at no more than 5 or 6 people really effectively competing for the overall championship.

    IMO, it'd be more fun to have more people involved and realistically eligible to challenge for the overall.
     
  18. AFCA

    AFCA Member

    Jul 16, 2002
    X X X rated
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    Iran
  19. kc123

    kc123 Member

    Jun 29, 2002
    I prefer 8 points for correct score and 5 points for correct result.
     
  20. Spartak

    Spartak Member

    Nov 6, 1999
    Philly
    Club:
    AC Milan
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I vote for 10 points for correct score and 6 points for correct result.
     

Share This Page