how do you predict the CONCACAF qualifying will go?

Discussion in 'USA Men' started by Georgia Empire, Jul 5, 2008.

  1. Georgia Empire

    Apr 27, 2006
    Ok predict the second rounds and the hex:

    Group A:
    1. USA
    2. Guatemala
    3. Cuba
    4. Trinidad and Tobago

    Group B:
    1. Mexico
    2. Canada
    3. Honduras
    4. Jamaica

    *all four of these teams should be in the hex.

    Group C:
    1. Costa Rica
    2. El Salvador
    3. Haiti
    4. Suriname


    HEX
    1. USA
    2. Mexico
    3. Canada
    4. Costa Rica [Loses to South American team]
    5. Guatemala
    6. El Salvador

    Note: i don't want to jinx anything, but we really got gifted with the seeding of this qualifying. Honduras, Jamaica, and Canada could all make a run for an actual world cup spot so we know we won't have to worry about two of those teams.
     
  2. ant0n

    ant0n Member+

    Jun 12, 2007
    San Jose, Ca
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    How should I know? Does it look like I have a crystal ball?
     
  3. Georgia Empire

    Apr 27, 2006
    do you say this every time someone asks you for your prediction?
     
  4. GlryManUtd

    GlryManUtd New Member

    Nov 10, 2007
    Ocean County, NJ
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    thats exactly how i think it would finish
     
  5. DamonEsquire

    DamonEsquire BigSoccer Supporter

    Sep 16, 2002
    Kentucky
    Club:
    Leeds United AFC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I say Team Mexico goes home, if Team cCuba has any say. I wouldn't mind Team Canada moving into World Cup form but everytime team messes up chance. I say. Teams: USA, Cuba, Honduras, Jamaica, Coasta Rica and El Salvador. I say. Team Coasta Rica has another shocker. Out of group play at World Cup but struggles in the Hexagonal. Team Cuba and Jamaica could find right form since both teams almost put out Teams USA and Mexico. One if not both should have some high failures. Other than that. Team Guatemala would have to have Seniora Ruiz and he never does anything in my views for National Team. Now that would blossom and strengthen our confederation much like Africa...
     
  6. MountainHawk

    MountainHawk New Member

    Sep 7, 2005
    Salem, MA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If Canada beats Jamaica and Honduras can steal one from Mexico in a month, Mexico might be in a fight for their lives, otherwise, I expect the Hex to be:

    1. USA
    2. Mexico
    3. Guatemala
    4. Haiti
    5. Canada
    6. Costa Rica
     
  7. silverlion

    silverlion Member

    Nov 23, 2001
    Brooklyn
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It looks pretty predictable is you ask me with the exception being Mexico's group. Mexico should go through but Honduras has been the most improved team for this WC cycle in Concacaf and Canada has the talent to go through too. If you're one of those USMNT fans that think our NT is gonna have a hard time qualifying from our group by your logic Mexico shouldn't go through, no? But for the first time in the past 20 years Mexico has a good chance of not making the WC, how cool would that be?? I would rub it in their face on a daily basis!!
    Group C is the weakest. A declining Costa Rica should make it through along with El Salvador but Suriname is a wild card. If you look at the Dutch team and see a dark skinned player he or his parents most likely came from Suriname so we to see how they do. Either way whoever comes out group c won't be going to South Africa.
    For the USMNT it should be 3 up 3 down. T&T has not improved and has not replaced their veterans, Guatemala is tough but they still only have one decent player and 10 USL type players, Cuba is a combination of both teams but still can't compete with us, why some people think we're gonna have it tough is beyond on me. Even with BB in charge it should still be easy. I'm not expecting 5-0 or 6-0 wins but we're more than capable of beating T&T and Cuba away and winning all our home games.

    Group A
    USMNT
    Guatemala
    T&T
    Cuba

    Group B
    Honduras
    Canada
    Mexico
    Jamaica

    Group C
    Costa Rica
    El Salvador
    Suriname
    Haiti
     
  8. GlryManUtd

    GlryManUtd New Member

    Nov 10, 2007
    Ocean County, NJ
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    guys, i love the optimism and i hate mexico, but remember, they are mexico. there is no way they are failing to qualify to this world cup.
     
  9. BenfromUSA

    BenfromUSA Member

    Jan 20, 2006
    Minneapolis/St. Paul
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    USA
    Mexico
    Jamaica
    Costa Rica
    T&T
    Haiti
     
  10. DM8512

    DM8512 New Member

    May 15, 2008
    Final Round:
    USA
    Guatemala
    Mexico
    Honduras
    Costa Rica
    El Salvador

    Teams going to WC '10: USA, Mexico, Honduras
    Costa Rica loses to CONMEBOL 5th place.
     
  11. anthony85

    anthony85 New Member

    Apr 1, 2005
    UC Berkeley
    Final Round:
    USA
    Guatemala
    Mexico
    Honduras
    Costa Rica
    Haiti

    Teams going to World Cup 2010: USA, Honduras, Guatemala
    Mexico loses to CONMEBOL 5th place.
     
  12. zanderbz

    zanderbz Member

    May 12, 2005
    United States
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Hex Teams:

    USA
    Guatemala
    Mexico
    Canada
    Costa Rica
    El Salvador

    Top 3

    USA, Mexico, Canada

    Playoff w/ CONMEBOL #5: El Salvador
     
  13. polak metro

    polak metro New Member

    Feb 5, 2004
    group a
    usa
    guatemala
    cuba
    trinidad

    groupb
    honduras
    mexico
    canada
    jamaica

    group c
    el salvador
    suriname
    costa rica
    haiti

    hex
    usa
    honduras
    guatemala
    mexico
    suriname
    elsalvador

    usa,honduras make it
    and guatemala finally make it

    mexico loss in playoff to venezuala
     
  14. Kevin8833

    Kevin8833 Member

    Jun 18, 2007
    Estero, FL
    USA, Honduras, and Mexico make the WC. Guatemala loses the playoff.
     
  15. Gooch_Onyewu

    Gooch_Onyewu Member

    Jan 30, 2008
    VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think Honduras will beat out Canada.
     
  16. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Crazy talk? Wishful thinking? Didn't take your medication today?
     
  17. anthony85

    anthony85 New Member

    Apr 1, 2005
    UC Berkeley
    Nope, that's just the way I see it playing out. What are your predictions?
     
  18. BenfromUSA

    BenfromUSA Member

    Jan 20, 2006
    Minneapolis/St. Paul
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This is without a doubt the toughest draw we could get. That's five very difficult away trips right there.
     
  19. Brandinho

    Brandinho Member

    None
    United States
    Feb 22, 2007
    New Jersey
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think it'll be:

    Group A
    1. United States
    2. Guatemala
    3. Cuba
    4. Trinidad and Tobago

    Group B
    1. Mexico
    2. Jamaica
    3. Honduras
    4. Canada

    Group C
    1.Costa Rica
    2. Haiti
    3. Suriname (why are they CONCACAF again?)
    4. El Salvador

    Hex
    USA
    Mexico
    Jamaica
    Costa Rica
    Guatemala
    Haiti

    Wow aren't you cool!:rolleyes: Dont reply if you're going to be an assbag.
     
  20. Georgia Empire

    Apr 27, 2006
    Canada i would say are the 3rd best team in CONCACAF, and i think they have the best chance to advance out of group play in the world cup (not including USA and Mexico). I have to feel for Canada because even though i say they'll make it through...it's going to be a hard run for them due to the fact they're going to struggle in their away games. Regardless, If i could predict the top six teams in CONCACAF it'd be:

    1. USA
    2. Mexico
    3. Canada
    4. Honduras
    5. Costa Rica
    6. Guatemala
    *Jamaica would be in a close race with Guatemala for the sixth spot.

    And if i was in charge of CONCACAF and could have broke down the groups this is how i would have had it:

    Group A
    USA (seeded)
    Canada
    Jamaica
    Suriname

    Group B
    Mexico (seeded)
    Guatemala
    El Salvador
    Cuba

    Group C
    Costa Rica (seeded)
    Trinidad and Tobago (seeded)
    Honduras
    Haiti

    *Teams that made it to the last world cup should already be seeded in the second stage. 3rd + 4th place team seeded together (hopefully, i'm right that USA and Mexico were 1st and 2nd...i can't remember)
     
  21. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    The final hex will be:

    USA
    Guatemala
    Mexico
    Honduras
    Costa Rica
    Haiti

    The top 3 will be Mexico, USA, and Honduras.
    4th place will be Costa Rica.

    Predicting Mexico to not qualify out of these qualifiers is like predicting Argentina won't qualify from South America. Bet your house that they'll make it. Why? They don't lose at home. How many world cup qualifiers have they lost at home in the last 4 cycles? One? Two? (Oh, and they're obviously either the 1st or 2nd best team in the region. Without question.)
     
  22. anthony85

    anthony85 New Member

    Apr 1, 2005
    UC Berkeley
    This isn't the same Mexico. Central American teams, and certainly not the U.S., don't fear Mexico anymore. If Mexico thinks it's gonna be another cakewalk they're gonna be hit with quite a surprise.
     
  23. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    It won't be a cakewalk, but they're still the 1st or 2nd best team in the region. In the past calender year they've beaten Brazil, Paraguay, Ecuador, Uruguay, Ghana, amongst some other good results. So while the gap between Mexico and CONCACAF isn't as great as it once was, they're still one of the top teams. Predicting Guatemala to finish ahead of them in the hex is slightly crazy, but you're certainly allowed to have that opinion. Guate did beat Mexico earlier this year in a friendly in LA, so there's at least some evidence that Guate can beat them in one game. Over a stretch of games such as the hex, Mexico should come out on top though.
     
  24. Look, I hate MEX as much as any self-respecting USMNT fan, but it would be disastrous if MEX failed to qualify for the WCF.

    1. WCF berths are allocated to regions according to how that region's teams do against other region's teams in WCFs ... over the last three, IIRC. MEX has almost always gotten out of the group stage, meaning at least one, maybe two, groups stage wins per WCF. If CONCACAF sends CAN, HON, or TRI instead of MEX, CONCACAF's record goes down against the other regions and possibly loses their half-berth or maybe even a full berth.

    2. The WCF is better with MEX in it. While this comparison breaks down ... imagine a WCF without BRA or GER or ITA. It just wouldn't be the same. MEX isn't a power like those other teams, but it's a regional power and CONCACAF wouldn't be sending its best if it didn't send MEX.

    3. If USA soccer wants to gain respect worldwide (overrated desire, IMHO ... respect will come with results, screw the rest of it), CONCACAF has to gain respect as a region. MEX's hypothetical failure to qualify doesn't give the impression that CAN, HON, TRI, and JAM are improving ... especially if it's followed up by a 0-0-3-1-12-0 record in the WC group stage. Rather, it would be viewed as a decrease in North American quality, leading to fewer WCF berths.

    Just my $0.02.
     
  25. Bluecat82

    Bluecat82 Member+

    Feb 24, 1999
    Minneapolis, MN
    Club:
    Minnesota United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Group A

    1) USA
    2) T&T
    3) Guatemala
    4) Cuba

    Guatemala has never advanced out of a group that has included the US...somehow that, combined with the presence of Jack Warner's boys in this group, will conspire in some Bizarro fashion to send the Chapines home early again.

    Group B

    1) Mexico
    2) Honduras
    3) Canada
    4) Jamaica

    I know this is the GoD, but no way El Tri surrenders points at home, and I think they get at least 2 draws on the road. Honduras is slightly better than Canada or Jamaica, but realistically, you could put these three teams in any order and have a good shot of being right.

    Group C

    1) Haiti
    2) El Salvador
    3) Costa Rica
    4) Suriname

    This is where the guard changes. I haven't been all that impressed with Costa Rica in the last few years - this group is wide open.

    The two teams that don't advance out of Group B would win this group.

    Hex

    1) USA
    2) Mexico
    3) Honduras
    4) Haiti
    5) T&T
    6) El Salvador

    Haiti gets smoked in the away leg against CONMEBOL #5, and gets a scoreless draw at home.
     

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