How come there were no car bombings under Saddam?

Discussion in 'Politics & Current Events' started by verybdog, Jul 19, 2004.

  1. verybdog

    verybdog New Member

    Jun 29, 2001
    Houyhnhnms
    What gives? Inquirying mind wants to know.
     
  2. Revolt

    Revolt Member+

    Jun 16, 1999
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    Its a legit question. The obvious answer is that while Saddam was a bastard through and through, he certainly wasn't a western infidel returning for another Holy War.

    Personally, I've been so amazed and appalled by the number of folks willing to commit suicidal homicide in Iraq.
     
  3. usscouse

    usscouse BigSoccer Supporter

    May 3, 2002
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    For the most part they're not Iraqi's. They've been sucked into the vacuum we've created. They're mostly poor Paki's or Saudi's. You know, our allies.
     
  4. argentine soccer fan

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    My understanding is that if a jihadist commits suicide for the purpose of fighting an Arab dictator, rather than a Jewish or Western infidel, the deed will not necesarlily get him to Paradise and will certainly not garantee him the eternal bliss and companionship of a thousand beautiful virgins. So what is the incentive to blow yourself up?

    But perhaps, before we jump to conclusions, we should consult the advice of an extremist fundamentalist muslim cleric.
     
  5. nicephoras

    nicephoras A very stable genius

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    Would now be a good time to say that Mussolini made the trains run on time? :rolleyes: Come on people.
     
  6. "Right Wing Wacko"

    "Right Wing Wacko" New Member

    Apr 29, 2004
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    "Paki" is a racial slur in these parts (UK) equivalent to "n!gg3r", just a FYI, I'm sure you don't mean to offend any asian UK posters.
     
  7. Revolt

    Revolt Member+

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    Awful. Are there any stats on that floating around cyberspace?
     
  8. verybdog

    verybdog New Member

    Jun 29, 2001
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    Where is BenReilly when you need an answer from him?
     
  9. BenReilly

    BenReilly New Member

    Apr 8, 2002
    You need an answer from me? Well, perhaps because nobody wanted their sisters, wives, and mothers raped, eyes gouged out, and then thrown into shredders. And perhaps there were car bombings that we never heard about. You could make a better argument that the USA would be better off long term with Saddam in charge than the Iraqi people.
     
  10. Own Goal Hat-Trick

    Jul 28, 1999
    ColoRADo
    FYI, asian is a term that generally describes those from countires like china, japan, korea, the phillipines and vietnam (all eg.) in these parts (US). usually its not used to refer to those from pakistan or india.
     
  11. QPR Kevin H

    QPR Kevin H BigSoccer Supporter

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  12. BenReilly

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  13. superdave

    superdave Member+

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    This is pretty much it. The people killing Americans are mostly Iraqis. The people killing Iraqis are mostly foreigners.

    Which is what you'd expect anyway.
     
  14. QPR Kevin H

    QPR Kevin H BigSoccer Supporter

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    Right, so then it would be best to use the ton of evidence that's not made up. And the point of debunking the shredder myth is not to defend Saddam, but to point out the danger of dramatic, uncorroborated evidence and its impact on public opinion (especially when spead by sh!t Murdoch rags). The shredder myth certainly had a large impact on the split public of the UK and Australia.
     
  15. Ian McCracken

    Ian McCracken Member

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    The shredder is not a myth, why do you keep calling it that? Even the link you supplied does not call it a myth.
     
  16. BenReilly

    BenReilly New Member

    Apr 8, 2002
    If the shredder "myth" was so persuasive but the other heinous crimes failed to move the British and Australian public, we have a lot more things to worry about than the News Corporation.
     
  17. dfb547490

    dfb547490 New Member

    Feb 9, 2000
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    There was a thread on this a few months ago--in the US "Asian" generally carries the connotation of referring to Oriental people (Japanese, Koreans, Chinese, Vietnamese) rather than Indians and Pakistanis as it refers to in the UK; and "Paki" is not a racial slur in the US (altho you very, very rarely hear it, which could be why it isn't really a slur).

    Anyway, why would al Qaeda car-bomb Iraqis under Saddam? You don't attack your ally.
     
  18. superdave

    superdave Member+

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    Nice try.
     
  19. DoctorJones24

    DoctorJones24 Member

    Aug 26, 1999
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    True, perhaps, among the geographically illiterate. There are plenty of Americans with more sense, however.
     
  20. DoyleG

    DoyleG Member+

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    Of course there were car bombsin Iraq under Saddam.

    He was the one setting them off.
     
  21. irishFS1921

    irishFS1921 New Member

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    i always get a kick out of these gloating idealogical self masturbation threads
     
  22. Norsk Troll

    Norsk Troll Member+

    Sep 7, 2000
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    Actually, there were car-bombings in Baghdad during Saddam's regime.

    Thanks to your tax dollars hard at work.

    You can't see the whole NY Times article anymore, but the relevant points are:

    "Dr. Allawi's group, the Iraqi National Accord, used car bombs and other explosive devices smuggled into Baghdad from northern Iraq, the officials said. ... One former Central Intelligence Agency officer who was based in the region, Robert Baer, recalled that a bombing during that period "blew up a school bus; schoolchildren were killed." Mr. Baer, a critic of the Iraq war, said he did not recall which resistance group might have set off that bomb [although] Other former intelligence officials said Dr. Allawi's organization was the only resistance group involved in bombings and sabotage at that time."

    As to the CIA's knowledge or involvement of the car bombing aspect, "The former intelligence officials, while confirming C.I.A. involvement in the bombing campaign, would not say how, exactly, the agency had supported it ... Another former intelligence officer who was involved in Iraqi affairs recalled that the bombings 'were an option we considered and used.'"
     
  23. BenReilly

    BenReilly New Member

    Apr 8, 2002
    Given the number and diversity of Asians, the term "Asian" is basically meaningless.
     
  24. Rick B

    Rick B Member

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    ????????????

    By that definition, so are the terms European and American...............
     
  25. superdave

    superdave Member+

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    "American" is a political term, not a racial one.

    And "Europeans" look aLOT more like each other than, say, a Saudi looks like a Siberian looks like a Sri Lankan looks like a Malaysian.
     

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