How about eddie johnson??

Discussion in 'LA Galaxy' started by Samminish, Dec 9, 2009.

  1. Samminish

    Samminish New Member

    Mar 7, 2005
  2. churchill2000

    churchill2000 3x MLS Cup Champions

    Jul 12, 2004
    Monde Virtuel
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Bruce screwed over EJ, hell most of the US team in Germany, not sure EJ would want to play for him.
     
  3. 73Bruin

    73Bruin Member+

    Galaxy
    United States
    Jul 12, 2008
    Torrance, California
    Based upon my very limited observations of EJ at Fulham 2 years, Eddie is the kind of player who may be there in body but certainly not in spirit. His play at Cardiff did nothing to indicate that he had regained his form/energy with 2 goals in 33 games. This year, back at Fulham he has only gotten off the bench twice.

    What ever flashes of brilliance he might have displayed in 2006/07 for Kansas City and 2003/4 in Dallas seem to be lost and he appears to be doing nothing more than going though the motions.
     
  4. Baysider

    Baysider Member+

    Jul 16, 2004
    Santa Monica
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Also, we're near the bottom of the allocation list so we would never get him.
     
  5. barroldinho

    barroldinho Member+

    Man Utd and LA Galaxy
    England
    Aug 13, 2007
    US/UK dual citizen in HB, CA
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    MLS Noob question... Allocations list... how does that work?
     
  6. TequilaJoal

    TequilaJoal Red Card

    Mar 3, 2002
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    ghandi bilznak

    Eddie Johnson & Edson Buddle

    Did the seventh gate of Hell just open up?
     
  7. Sean...

    Sean... Member

    Jul 23, 2005
    Ireland
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I agree, losing that landon Johnson guy would be massive loss to this team.






    I'd take Eddie if all else fails. But only if all else fails. If our off-season buys are centered around him I would be pissed off. I could see him end up in Philly for some reason.
     
  8. juniorLA

    juniorLA Member

    Mar 4, 2008
    El Lay
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    i don't want him on our team. the guy was overrated when he went to Fulham, did horribly there, only started to become respectable toward the end of his loan to Cardiff, but still can only get minutes with the Fulham reserves. he's going to be expensive, and i'd rather have us spread the money around, instead of spending it on him.

    frankly, Buddle's touch, finishing skill and workrate are better. EJ is faster, slightly better in the air and has learned a bit of hold up play, but not enough to justify the salary cap hit that would be required.

    I reckon EJ, on his own, greatly weakened the reputation of the american player for the entire EPL, he was such a disaster.
     
  9. Soccer Obsession

    Jun 13, 2007
    Pasadena
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Eddie! Eddie! Eddie!

    Haha, I'm obsessed with EJ. He's my favorite player. I met Eddie last Spring (see my one blog post, under my name), and I actually asked him (somewhat jokingly, obviously) if would come play for our Galaxy some day. He did said he likes SoCal, and loves Bruce Arena, but I don't think he'll be coming back to MLS anytime soon. He could make more money playing for a lower league in Europe than he could command in MLS. And I think he probably has too much pride at this point. Coming back to MLS would kind of be admitting that he failed in Europe, and I don't think he is ready to accept that yet.

    And plus, like some have said- we're way low in the allocation order. I'd like to have him, and I actually think he's a good player, and one that could help us. But it's unlikely in so many ways.
     
  10. Soccer Obsession

    Jun 13, 2007
    Pasadena
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He really actually likes Bruce. He said he loves him as a guy and manager, and he said "Bruce is the best manager I've ever played for"- that's a direct quote.
     
  11. CenterLine

    CenterLine Member

    Jan 17, 2009
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    +1:D
     
  12. dmhines

    dmhines Member

    Dec 28, 2006
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    buddle's touch is better? hmm . . . now i am not saying this as justification for us signing eddie, but buddle has a horrible touch. at most, i would think that one could say buddle's touch is on par with EJ. honestly, i haven't seen EJ play in so long, that i don't remember what his touch is like.

    but, i will say this . . . like most of you i see buddle play often, and he has the touch of a rapist.

    question:
    when a MLS player is out of contract, their rights are still owned by their previous team. I know (based on mcbride) that a returning player's rights are not owned by their former team, but i am wondering when that ownership stops. is it when the said player signs a contract with a team outside of the MLS? just thought i would ask.
     
  13. onefineesq

    onefineesq Member+

    Sep 16, 2003
    Laurel, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yes, Buddle's touch is WAY better than EJ's. A sad fact, but true. Point blank, Buddle is a more skillful player than EJ ... though it's up to you to determine whether that is good for Buddle or just plain bad for EJ.

    Edit: In answer to your question, it seems that a player's rights ARE held by the team he left from, UNLESS the team that had him got some sort of value for him (allocation money, transfer fees, etc). Columbus used part of the transfer for McBride on someone, so they were precluded from having any more rights to him. KC would be in the same boat. As a returning national team player (hahahahahahahahhaa), an allocation or some such mechanism would be needed to pick up EJ at this point.
     
  14. mbar

    mbar Member+

    Apr 30, 1999
    Los Angeles, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Since Fulham wants to sell Eddie and doesn't want to just give him away for nothing, I doubt MLS will end up with him.

    MLS is the king of the free transfer.
     
  15. dmhines

    dmhines Member

    Dec 28, 2006
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    wanting to sell and finding a buyer are two different deals . . . i mean really, who in their right mind would buy EJ at this point?
     
  16. StillKickin

    StillKickin Member+

    Austin FC
    Dec 17, 2002
    Texas
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If I get a vote on this, I vote no, no, no, nooooooo.

    Am not impressed with Eddie at all. Never have been. Not in MLS. Not with Fulham. Not with Nats. Not with Cardiff. Not with anyone.
     
  17. juniorLA

    juniorLA Member

    Mar 4, 2008
    El Lay
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    not in a box,
    not with a fox,
    not in a house,
    not with a mouse,
    i do not want him here or there.
    i do not want him anywhere.
     
  18. Baysider

    Baysider Member+

    Jul 16, 2004
    Santa Monica
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    (See also onefineesq's post)

    To keep MLS teams from bidding against each other for American players playing overseas, MLS ranks teams in terms of priority and gives the option to sign the player to the highest ranking team.

    The ranking is determined by the order of finish the previous year, so Philly has the highest ranking and RSL the lowest. In the past, we sucked, so we were high in the rankings which is how we got Lewis and Berhalter. Since we did well this year, we are low in the rankings and probably can't get anybody unless we trade up .
     
  19. drew coho ohio

    Apr 15, 2008
    Columbus OH USA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Re: ghandi bilznak


    hey... i heard that.... i think it would be awsome, they are friends
     
  20. soccermusician

    Oct 20, 2004
    funny i mentioned this in a thread earlier right when the finals were done! i wouldn't mind EJ! I would actually like him with us to revive his career!
     
  21. 73Bruin

    73Bruin Member+

    Galaxy
    United States
    Jul 12, 2008
    Torrance, California
    The Galaxy can't revive Eddie Johnson's contract only he can do it. It would have to start with hustle and heart, something he did not display in the games I saw him play at Fulham 2 years ago. For all the complaining people do about Buddle'e work rate, Buddle beats the EJ, by a wide margin (as did the returning from injury and much older, Brian McBride).

    However if Chivas want to sign him, I would have no problem with that.
     
  22. lagalaxy900

    lagalaxy900 Member

    Feb 14, 2008
    Iowa City, IA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Id rather have eddie in the MLS where he can actually get some pt, scoring mediocre goal after mediocre goal, in leui of being at some big club where he sits on the bench and is going to rot until he is in his 30's, then returns to the MLS, and scores mediocre goal after mediocre goal.
     
  23. 73Bruin

    73Bruin Member+

    Galaxy
    United States
    Jul 12, 2008
    Torrance, California
    I am sorry, but I wasn't aware that Cardiff (while Championship level) was that big of a club or that it was unreasonable for us to expect him to score more than 2 goals in 33 games there, if he was uninjured (and I have not heard mention that he was).

    Why do you think he will score mediocre goal after mediocre goal in the MLS? Does that mean 3 or 4 a season? If thats the case, I would rather the Galaxy use the salary cap space for another player and let Bryan Jordan play. At this point, I don't think there is a lot of difference (actually I take that back). Assuming he plays like he did when he first got to Fulham (and actually played), any benefit that the Galaxy might get by Eddie Johnson's scoring ability would be more than offset by the his total lack of hustle otherwise. Outside of the occasional through ball, the Galaxy would essentially be playing 10 on 11.
     
  24. Grumpy in LA

    Grumpy in LA Bringing It Since 1807™

    Sep 10, 2007
    Chicago
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Johnson got overhyped for a while there, but I think the pendulum has swung too far in the other direction. By all reports, he had trouble initially settling in at Cardiff because he wasn't doing the right stuff tactically. But he busted his ass and got to be an effective player for them. These days, people say that he's figured out how to work hard and contribute. He's a guy with a lot of physical tools and an improved sense of the game. The fact that he's not good enough for Fulham doesn't mean he couldn't settle in somewhere in a solid European league--Sweden, Denmark, Netherlands, maybe even France. He's not going to be very expensive. I doubt Fulham will price him over $2 million, and my total guess is that they'll ask $750k - $1.25mil. A lot of European teams would consider him at that price tag, even if they only see him as a squad player/sub.

    But I don't think he wants to come back to MLS, and if he does come back, he'll cost us more against the cap than would be good for the Galaxy (unless the CBA drastically raises the cap, which almost surely won't happen).
     
  25. juniorLA

    juniorLA Member

    Mar 4, 2008
    El Lay
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    i hear what you're saying, but my sense is that at Cardiff, he was more of a folk hero more than anything. when he showed up, he was completely inept and he eventually worked his way onto the field in limited minutes and even bagged a couple goals. he became somewhat beloved by the fans there more than anything because he was so very bad when he started (and so expensive) and because he worked very hard. i don't get the sense he ever really improved his skills that much, though his tactical awareness did have some marginal improvement. then Cardiff didn't want him back on loan, Fulham couldn't find another taker despite putting him in the shop window by giving him a run-out during the preseason.

    he's only been able to sniff the field for the Fulham reserves on any regular basis and doesn't make the bench at Fulham often, much less meaningful PT in the full squad once the regular season started.

    my sense is that he's really not that improved. i see a couple cheeleaders in the Yanks Abroad forum, Arsenal08 and Scorpion, who trumpet every small bit of rumor as truth. really Scorpion just pops in, says something positive about EJ that generally doesn't appear to be based in any fact or anecdote and then disappears for a week or so, and then do the same in the following week. he'll say things like "well he appears to be working hard and making progress so he should be seeing more PT", appropos of nothing. if you separate the real news in the EJ threads from the cheerleading, there isn't much there to suggest real progress.

    personally, i look at his recent performances on the USMNT and i don't see much progress. that said, all of the foregoing is my opinion.

    and we need a striker.

    i just hope we can find someone better or less expensive, and preferably both!
     

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