Houston Dynamo v. FC Dallas, Saturday, September 30

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Poll closed Sep 30, 2023.
  1. Dynamo win

    5 vote(s)
    83.3%
  2. Dynamo tie

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  3. Dynamo lose

    0 vote(s)
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  4. Bring the cannon home!

    1 vote(s)
    16.7%
  1. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Who: Houston Dynamo v. FC Dallas
    When: Saturday, September 30 @ 7:30 pm CDT
    Where: Shell Energy Stadium; Houston, TX
    Records: FC Dallas (10-10-10), 9th, MLS West
    Houston Dynamo (12-11-7), 4th, MLS West
    TV: Apple TV
    Radio: 97.5 (English)/93.3 (Spanish)

    This is the 31st regular season game of 2023 for Houston and for Dallas. You need a subscription to Apple MLS Season Pass to watch this game.

    Houston drew Dallas, 1-1, up in Frisco on May 20 in the most recent meeting. The last time FCD came to Houston was a 2-2 draw in July of 2022.

    This game could decide possession of El Capitán and will determine the winner of the 2023 Copa Tejas.

    Dallas is 1-0-4 in their last 5 league games, scoring 8 goals and allowing 6. Their most recent league game was an away draw, 1-1, at Philadelphia on Wednesday, September 27. Dallas is 3-7-5 in away league games this year. They next return home to host Colorado on Wednesday, October 4, and then San Jose on Saturday, October 7.

    The Dynamo are 2-1-2 in the last 5 league games scoring 8 goals and allowing 4. Houston is 10-2-3 in home league games this year.

    The Dynamo next travel to Montreal on Wednesday, October 4, and then return home to host Colorado on Saturday, October 7.
     
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  2. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Dallas @ Dynamo, all-time:

    05/06/06 HOU 4-3 FCD
    08/12/06 HOU 1-0 FCD
    08/23/06 HOU 3-0 FCD, U.S. Open Cup
    06/03/07 HOU 2-1 FCD
    08/19/07 HOU 1-0 FCD
    11/02/07 HOU 4-1 FCD (a.e.t.), MLS Playoffs
    04/06/08 HOU 3-3 FCD
    06/26/08 HOU 1-1 FCD
    05/09/09 HOU 1-0 FCD
    05/05/10 HOU 0-1 FCD
    05/28/11 HOU 2-2 FCD
    06/16/12 HOU 2-1 FCD
    04/05/14 HOU 1-4 FCD
    06/24/14 HOU 2-3 FCD (a.e.t.), U.S. Open Cup
    05/01/15 HOU 1-4 FCD
    03/12/16 HOU 5-0 FCD
    07/20/16 HOU 0-1 FCD, U.S. Open Cup
    08/27/16 HOU 1-3 FCD
    06/23/17 HOU 1-1 FCD
    07/21/18 HOU 1-1 FCD
    08/23/18 HOU 1-1 FCD
    05/04/19 HOU 2-1 FCD
    08/21/20 HOU 0-0 FCD
    10/07/20 HOU 2-0 FCD
    08/21/21 HOU 2-2 FCD
    09/18/21 HOU 3-2 FCD
    07/09/22 HOU 2-2 FCD

    That's 12-6-9 overall with 48 goals scored and 38 allowed.

    This is the 52nd game, home and away, between the teams. That is 2nd most behind the 56 against Kansas City.
     
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  3. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Texas trophy situation:

    El Capitán standings, 8-9:

    2006: HOU 2-1-1
    2007: HOU 3-0-1

    2008: FCD 0-0-3 (away goals 4-2)
    2009: HOU 2-1-0
    2010: FCD 1-0-1
    2011: HOU 1-0-1
    2012: HOU 1-0-0

    2013: FCD 1-0-0
    2014: FCD 1-0-0
    2015: FCD 3-0-0
    2016 HOU 1-1-1 (g.d. +3)
    2017 HOU 0-0-3 (holder retains)

    2018 FCD 1-0-2
    2019 FCD 1-1-0 (g.d. +4)
    2020 FCD 2-1-1
    2021 HOU 1-0-2
    2022 FCD 1-0-0
    2023 TBD

    Current El Capitán criteria:

    1. Head-to-head regular season series (W-L-T)
    2. Head-to-head goal differential in regular season series
    3. Result of MLS playoff series (if applicable)
    4. Result of CONCACAF Champions League series (if applicable)
    5. Result of Lamar Hunt U.S. Open Cup match (if applicable)
    6. Holder retains trophy

    If Houston wins on Saturday the Cannon returns to Houston.
    A draw would mean that we have to wait until the playoffs to see what happens.
    If there is no playoff game then Dallas would retain possession.
    A loss keeps it in Frisco.

    2023 Copa Tejas D1 standings:

    1. Austin 4 g.p. 6 pts
    2. Houston 3 g.p. 4 pts
    3. Dallas 3 g.p. 4 pts

    If Houston or Dallas wins this game they take the Cup.
    A tie gives it to Austin.

    Previous Winners
    2021: Dallas
    2022: Austin

    2023 Copa Tejas Shield standings:

    1. San Antonio (USLC) 31 g.p. 1.74 PPG
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    2. Houston Dynamo (MLS) 30 g.p. 1.43 PPG
    3. FC Dallas (MLS) 29 g.p. 1.34 PPG
    4. El Paso Locomotive (USLC) 30 g.p. 1.33 PPG
    5. Rio Grande Valley (USLC) 30 g.p. 1.37 PPG
    6. Houston Dash (NWSL) 19 g.p. 1.21 PPG
    7. Austin FC (MLS) 30 g.p. 1.17 PPG

    Previous Winners

    2021: El Paso Locomotive
    2022: San Antonio
     
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  4. DonJuego

    DonJuego Member+

    Aug 19, 2005
    Austin, TX
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The big games come thick and heavy now. Fresh off the tremendous high of claiming the now improved-in-prestige USOC championship is a HUUUGE game against the eternal rivals.

    This is a must win game if the Dynamo want a successful MLS campaign. Dallas can go from last playoff spot to jumping ahead of the Dynamo by winning, and pushing the Dynamo into a real scrap. The Dynamo need at least two wins out these last four. Win this one and securing a top-4 finish is within their grasp. Lose, and I think they still make the playoffs but will face a tough task on the road in the first-round and a first-round exit will not validate the USOC achievement.

    We all know it from history. Falter now in the league and the Cup won last night will be diminished, will be considered a fluke.

    What a test for the staff and the mentality of this group.
     
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  5. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    That is not correct. If Dallas wins they would still be below the Dynamo on tie-breakers.

    Unless you mean in your adjusted standings. No idea the consquences in that.
     
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  6. DonJuego

    DonJuego Member+

    Aug 19, 2005
    Austin, TX
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Your right (of course). I must have looked at the wrong row in the standings for FCD’s record. Somehow I thought it would get them to 13.

    The more important point I should have made is that the Dynamo would likely fall out of top-4 with 2 of 3 games left on the road.
     
  7. ElNaranja

    ElNaranja Member+

    Houston Dynamo
    United States
    Jul 16, 2017
    That 3-3 game in 08 was Geoff's coming out party if memory serves.

    So many fun memories from this rivalry.

    **** Dallas.
     
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  8. CeltTexan

    CeltTexan Member+

    Sep 21, 2000
    Houston, TX USA
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Cameron scored on his pro debut.
    In a derby match no less!
    First game of the season that year in '08 iirc.
    My buddies and I ran into the players in the old Rob's parking lot late after the game. I went bonkers and tackled him to the cement, screaming in joy and thanking him for such a golazo!!!
    Naw, I just shook his hand and told him job well done rookie!


    And as always, ******** DALLAS!!!
     
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  9. 7seven7

    7seven7 Member+

    May 5, 2008
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Trap game Trap game Trap game

    After a cup hangover, this...as you may have heard....is a trap game.

    Our resolve will be tested, especially after the 65th mnt when legs and minds start to falter.

    PS

    A couple of our influencers are out due to accumulation so add that to the fire
     
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  10. Heft

    Heft BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 20, 2011
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    I predict a Franco Escobar yellow card
     
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  11. quiznatodd_bidness

    Houston Dynamo
    United States
    Apr 14, 2020
    “Feeling bold today, aren’t we?” -Squidward Q. Tentacles
     
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  12. 7seven7

    7seven7 Member+

    May 5, 2008
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm just hoping he escapes with only a yellow. If Frisco is smart, they use the dark arts on him so he loses it & gets tossed
     
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  13. quiznatodd_bidness

    Houston Dynamo
    United States
    Apr 14, 2020
  14. 7seven7

    7seven7 Member+

    May 5, 2008
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  15. quiznatodd_bidness

    Houston Dynamo
    United States
    Apr 14, 2020
    I didn’t even see that tweet tbh. Hope it turns out well!
     
  16. DonJuego

    DonJuego Member+

    Aug 19, 2005
    Austin, TX
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Right now it looks like 51 points will be needed to win home field advantage in the first round. Dynamo are working on a 49 point season (assuming no more road points). Road points are doable however, but not easy. @ POT and @ MTL. Top-4 will be tough without full points at home from FCD tonight.

    This little trap game tonight is so important.

    Here are tonight's important games for the Dynamo with Rooting interests:
    NSH win over SEA.
    MIN win, or at least a draw hosting SJE.
    LAG win hosting POR.
    Any result by DCU @ VAN.

    Tomorrow:
    RSL draw @ LAFC.
     
  17. Ethos

    Ethos Member+

    Houston Dynamo
    Apr 28, 2019
    Houston
    It's looking a bit more full than usual this time. There's a guy in full Indian headdress down at field level. I got here super early and parking was already really packed. There was a huge line to take pictures with the Cup.
     
  18. Ethos

    Ethos Member+

    Houston Dynamo
    Apr 28, 2019
    Houston
    Definitely a lot of people here, but it's not sold out. Of course, there are always those people who buy tickets just to walk on the concourse all game.
     
  19. quiznatodd_bidness

    Houston Dynamo
    United States
    Apr 14, 2020
    Brad Smith had a hell of a play to win that corner
     
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  20. Ethos

    Ethos Member+

    Houston Dynamo
    Apr 28, 2019
    Houston
    This band that is playing the HT show is pretty damn good!
     
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  21. Ethos

    Ethos Member+

    Houston Dynamo
    Apr 28, 2019
    Houston
    Hmmm, not a single Western Conference team has scored in the 1st half so far.
     
  22. quiznatodd_bidness

    Houston Dynamo
    United States
    Apr 14, 2020
    I think Ivan Franco punched his ticket out of Houston tonight
     
  23. quiznatodd_bidness

    Houston Dynamo
    United States
    Apr 14, 2020
    I thought Max Bretos was a good announcer? I was very unimpressed by him tonight. The broadcast sounded more like a podcast at times than commentary, which isn’t egregious but annoying at times. Then said Raines was subbed in when it was very clearly Aliyu. They talked about Copa Tejas with no mention of El Capitan. I usually don’t get too mad about announcers but he was poor tonight.
     
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  24. Ethos

    Ethos Member+

    Houston Dynamo
    Apr 28, 2019
    Houston
    Home games, you can switch to the local broadcast.
     
  25. quiznatodd_bidness

    Houston Dynamo
    United States
    Apr 14, 2020
    Good point. Most of the Apple crews have been decent enough. But yea if we get this guy again I’m flipping over
     
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