Alert: Hot Seat, Cold City | US v Honduras | '22 CONCACAF World Cup Qualifying M11 | 2/2/22 - 7:30

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What will be the result of the US vs Honduras match on 2/2/22?

Poll closed Feb 2, 2022.
  1. US wins by two or more goals

    42.9%
  2. US wins by one goal

    21.4%
  3. Tie

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  4. US loses by one goal

    3.6%
  5. Gregg Berhalter Disasterclass (formerly US loses by two or more goals)

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  6. Back on Track: Pepi scores and US wins by two or more goals (worth two points!)

    25.0%
  7. "All possession and no goal makes Gregg a happy boy." - Gigi

    7.1%
  1. chr1st

    chr1st Member+

    Jan 19, 2011
    Dayton
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    United States vs Honduras

    2022 FIFA World Cup qualification – CONCACAF Third Round
    Wednesday, February 2, 7:30 PM
    Allianz Field, Saint Paul, MN

    Kickoff: 7:30 PM (per Steven Goff)

    Broadcast: FS1, Univision, TUDN

    Vitals (Last 5, including friendlies):
    United States
    3W-1L-1D | 5 GF / 4 GA / 1 GD

    Honduras
    0W-5L-0D | 4 GF / 11 GA / -7 GD

    Goal Leaders (Current round):
    United States
    Ricardo Pepi - 3
    Brenden Aaronson - 2
    Antonee Robinson - 2
    Sergiño Dest - 1
    Sebastian Lletget - 1
    Weston McKennie - 1
    Christian Pulisic - 1
    Timothy Weah - 1
    Own Goal - 1

    Honduras
    Brayan Moya - 2
    Alberth Elis - 1
    Alexander López - 1
    Romell Quioto - 1

    Head-to-Head Record:
    United States vs Honduras
    18W-4L-5D

    US Goals - 51
    Honduras Goals - 24
    Goal Difference - +27 US

    Previous Meeting:
    2022 FIFA World Cup Qualification – CONCACAF Third Round
    September 8, 2021 @ Estadio Olímpico Metropolitano, San Pedro Sula, Honduras
    United States 4, Honduras 1

    Notes:
     
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  2. Hamburgler03

    Hamburgler03 BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 31, 2000
    Columbus, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm going....and I'm regretting it
     
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  3. KCbus

    KCbus Moderator
    Staff Member

    United States
    Nov 26, 2000
    Reynoldsburg, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Oh, this is going to be a bitch-slapping. Honduras just lost at home to El Salvador. There's no way they're going to turn around three days later and 70 degrees colder and hang with a pissed off USA team.
     
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  4. puttputtfc

    puttputtfc Member+

    Sep 7, 1999
    They don't have to hang with us, they just need to stop both shots on goal.
     
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  5. KCbus

    KCbus Moderator
    Staff Member

    United States
    Nov 26, 2000
    Reynoldsburg, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Extreme Weather in Football - FIFPRO World Players' Union

    There is no specific guidance by FIFA on extreme cold. FIFPRO recommends that training and matches be cancelled and rescheduled when the air temperature is less than -15 degrees Centigrade and when the Wind Chill Temperature is less than -27 degrees Centigrade.

    -15 degrees Centigrade is 5 degrees Farenheit. The forecast for kickoff is 4 degrees. Oops. Would they actually go so far as to postpone or reschedule?
     
  6. Kryptonite

    Kryptonite BS XXV

    Apr 10, 1999
    Columbus
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Wiseguy comment: Coffee breaks (instead of water) could make things very interesting.
     
  7. Kyle Crew

    Kyle Crew Member+

    Feb 23, 2013
    Columbus, Ohio
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If they didn’t stop the snow classico they won’t stop this.
     
  8. POdinCowtown

    POdinCowtown Member+

    Jan 15, 2002
    Columbus
    Nice to see Centigrade making a comeback. Usually metric temperatures are reported in Celsius.

    That actually wasn't very cold, only a few degrees below freezing. The issue there was seeing the lines, especially for the penalty box.
     
  9. KCbus

    KCbus Moderator
    Staff Member

    United States
    Nov 26, 2000
    Reynoldsburg, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    And I was on the record saying the Snow Classico SHOULD have been stopped. That field was basically unplayable.

    But this is different. There does come a point where the temperatures become physically dangerous. And this isn’t like football, where guys can come in and out and have heaters on the sidelines and put on coats and blankets and add layers underneath their pads and stuff.
     
  10. Hamburgler03

    Hamburgler03 BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 31, 2000
    Columbus, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm in Minneapolis now and scared me to think that it's going to be 15+ degrees colder tomorrow for the game because it's already pretty miserable out. Snowing sideways.

    I think that there is no way that it would be cancelled/postponed at this point even though I'd probably call it unsafe. This weather/temp has been known for a week+ and it would have already happened by now or Honduras would have already protested it.
     
  11. Timon19

    Timon19 Member+

    Jun 2, 2007
    Akron, OH
    As I recall, European dates when Sweden, Russia, and Ukraine are involved were colder than this on the regular. UEFA hasn't called any that I'm aware of...not solely for cold, anyway.
     
  12. KCbus

    KCbus Moderator
    Staff Member

    United States
    Nov 26, 2000
    Reynoldsburg, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well, there you go then.
     
  13. Timon19

    Timon19 Member+

    Jun 2, 2007
    Akron, OH
    Zenit v Chelsea was -14 C, in December.

    It's December in St. Petersburg. How much do you want to bet it was "-14"?
     
  14. Salacious Bum

    Salacious Bum Member

    Jun 5, 2010
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Hypothetically, if it were to be postponed, when the hell would it be rescheduled for?
     
  15. Timon19

    Timon19 Member+

    Jun 2, 2007
    Akron, OH
    ...which is precisely why the game will go ahead.
     
  16. KCbus

    KCbus Moderator
    Staff Member

    United States
    Nov 26, 2000
    Reynoldsburg, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Some other time.
     
  17. Salacious Bum

    Salacious Bum Member

    Jun 5, 2010
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Don’t quit your day job ;)
     
  18. zman31

    zman31 Member+

    May 5, 1999
    Columbus, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    There have folks floating the idea of a change of venue to the Vikings indoor stadium. I don't know how realistic that is, but would at least be able to play the game on the date reserved for it.

    But, as others have said, most likely this just goes ahead and is bad for both teams. No idea why this one was scheduled there in the first place. It's a net negative for the home team in my estimation.
     
  19. Salacious Bum

    Salacious Bum Member

    Jun 5, 2010
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Vikings stadium… well we clearly perform so well on artificial turf so….

    Absolutely a net negative, we already play too slow. And Honduras has nothing to lose, even though they are abysmal could be dangerous
     
  20. LaMacchia

    LaMacchia Member+

    Jul 12, 2008
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I have to wonder how much the novelty factor played into the decision to play in Minneapolis in February. Y'all have got to admit: the media is buzzin'.

    Granted, they couldn't have predicted a major winter weather system bringing below-average temps to the city, nor a USNMT squad that is severely underperforming.

    A large part of me thinks that if the weather was average (~25) and the Nats hadn't just lost to Canada, no one would be spilling this much ink to ask "wwwhhhhyyyy."
     
  21. Minnman

    Minnman Member+

    Feb 11, 2000
    Columbus, OH, USA
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I see that the Zenit stadium has a retractable roof. From the highlights, it didn't look all that cold inside the stadium. No visible breath from players. Players in short sleeves (some of them). No one wearing gloves. You sure the roof wasn't closed?
     
  22. Timon19

    Timon19 Member+

    Jun 2, 2007
    Akron, OH
    No idea, actually. Just went by the match report at uefa.com, which said "-14". I certainly would have closed the roof if I were them.
     
  23. Hamburgler03

    Hamburgler03 BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 31, 2000
    Columbus, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    im curious if there is any history of a venue change late due to weather. Can’t imagine it’s easy if allowed at all
     
  24. Bill Archer

    Bill Archer BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 19, 2002
    Washington, NC
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    A case of USSF outsmarting themselves.

    They made no bones about wanting cold weather venues for these 2 games. As far as I can tell, nobody much aside from Columbus and Mineapolis bid on thesm or was ever considered.

    It has worked for.them ever since 2001. But they went to the well a bit too often and now they're in a tough spot.
     
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  25. KCbus

    KCbus Moderator
    Staff Member

    United States
    Nov 26, 2000
    Reynoldsburg, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I still think we’ll be fine. LaMacchia’s right; we just lost to Canada, so everyone’s back to worrying. None of the complaints/concerns/worries about the conditions are coming from the team. They’re coming from people who watch them or cover them.

    As for it being a “net negative,” well, I couldn’t disagree more. Honduras will literally be experiencing a 75° temperature difference between two matches over four days. Whatever effect it has on us will pale in comparison to the effect it will have on them.
     

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