Louisville has been hit pretty good with some of the NIL budget cuts. Definitely impacted the men’s soccer program.
What does NIL budget cuts mean? Money going to NIL for football and basketball instead of Men's Olympic Programs ?
Yes. Basically. Schools in the rat race figuring out how to compete with their select sports they want to fund. I can probably dig it up, but Louisville had it public that their NIL monies would be divvied up into like 9 sports or so. Men’s (and women’s) soccer was not included.
So did they lose NIL money the players were getting previously ? How does NIL money impact budgets ? Scholarship loss ?
Schools will foot the bill for the $20.5m NIL budgets. There’s still a lot to decipher in how it’ll work, and what changes will continue. But, schools are trying to trim budgets all over to get to their NIL budget number. Here is the UofL article I knew I read. I did hear that Louisville did drop some men’s soccer scholarship money. Good source told me, but it could have always changed since that was initially communicated. Louisville also had a record $14.5m athletics deficit in 2024-25 (even with $7m coming in from institutional support).
I have minimal sympathy for the soccer programs facing budget cuts because of the House settlement. College soccer coaches have known for years they were sucking off the football and basketball revenue teat and that eventually this welfare was going to expire. They knew they needed to find ways to become more relevant and to generate revenue and very few outside of College Park, Akron, Huntington, Bloomington and Charlottesville did anything to address this. Now the revenue generators are getting paid and there's a lot less money for those sports that are teat-suckers. Time for these coaches to look in the mirror.
Surely Bryan Green at Temple can’t last much longer? They are 1-12-2 and he’s never really had any success as a head coach at the D1 level. I know Belmont and Temple have challenges but both programs have been better under different coaches.
Winthrop. The current guy is 38-109-13 in his tenth season in Rock Hill. Is this just another school that doesn't give a hoot about the men's soccer program? No American football at a university that has mostly been put on the map by men's basketball. Historically speaking, you'd think it would be very possible to be successful in the Big South. The conference had been dominated by Coastal Carolina, however the last ten years have seen High Point and Campbell rise, Radford and Liberty have had some competitive teams, as well, with Gardner-Webb now drastically improving.
Think you answered your own question. Its not all about results, have to ask if admin even care if they're competitive or not first - a lot of programs track records answer that question.
I believe they dramatically cut scholarships once around the time Posipanko retired. No they do not have any expectations for men’s soccer, though to your point I think it’s possible to punch above your weight in the big south and most programs on the conference have improved after moving on from legacy coaches.
Not sure how coaches get hired when they have a sub .500 career record at a lower conference, but it happens more frequently than you think. Green is 16-56-12 for his 7-year Division I career. Temple is a tough job, but you have to find the right coach (prob an international D2 guy). The coach who replaced Green at Belmont is over .500 with just two losing seasons in 7 years.
How much time does Shapiro at Harvard or Oshoniyi at Dartmouth get? The latter has a record of 34-56-12 at Dartmouth. Columbia and Brown have recently been hired and recruiting to an Ivy League school is quite unique so they deserve time. However Cornell, Princeton, Yale, Penn have all made multiple NCAA appearances in the last 5-6 years.
If Princeton is the model, these coaches will get a long leash. Under their current coach, the Tigers have had stretches of 8 and 11 years without making the NCAA Tournament. And their previous head coach, who has gone on to have a bit of success outside of college ball, only made it to the NCAAs three times in 11 seasons.
Very fair comment and I respect that answer, however Barlow HAD made the NCAA tournament before. Showing that it could be done. The highest RPI Dartmouth finished with in his tenure is 40 back in 2018. You could argue that that was with the previous coach’s players. Since then they haven’t cracked the Top 100.
That's a valid point. With the Ivies, we never know what the priorities are. Like, is it "just don't make negative headlines and produce future donors" or do they really want the soccer team to get a lot of wins and, if so, what resources are they giving the program to do so?
OPEN Gonzaga - Chris McGaughey (interim) Coastal Carolina - Chris Fidler (interim - retirement 8/13) Furman - retirement after 2025 season Liberty - retirement after 2025 season George Washington - after season 10/15 Winthrop - 11/3 FILLED Manhattan - Tom Giovatto (Long Island Womens head; 6/19-7/10) Hofstra - Stephen Roche (Hofstra associate head; 8/11 — taking over after 2025 fall retirement) Bellarmine - Matt Cannady (Bellarmine assistant; retirement after 2025 season - 9/17-9/18)
John Michael Hayden was at least Louisville's third option. They first tried to hire Marshall's Chris Grassie. At the time Grassie was just getting his roster at Marshall and the first two seasons was under .500 but you could see the flashes of what was to come. At the time he was making 122K a year. Louisville offered him 100K per year and as Grassie has told it when he ask "Why would I take less money to move jobs" He was told "Because you will get to coach in the ACC". And then Grassie told them "I don't need the ACC to win". The next year Marshall made the NCAA for the first time, grabbed a 11 seed and made the sweet 16. The year after that Marshall was national champs. Guess he was right. They then went after Scott Calabrese at UCF and struck out again.
Well, if they weren't spending money on a coach before, I doubt they'll do it now unless a donor comes in with a check specifically to pay the soccer coach.
A lot of people and some on here assume if program has the resources they will fund an olympic sport well. I find just the opposite a lot of times. It wasn't until the last 10-12 years that power programs started sinking money into WBB. Before that Im guessing if you wasn't Tennessee, UConn or Standford your AD seen WBB about the same he seen cheerleading. There is a reason only 2 SEC schools and 2 B12 schools have men's soccer. All the rest do not want the headache of allocating money they see that could go to their premium sport. Out of the 205 programs that have men's soccer, I would say only 50-60 actually fund their program enough to be successful. As a Marshall fan Ive seen both sides of the fence. There was no investment in the program until Mike Hamrick unveiled the new soccer renderings in 2011. Before that Marshall played in a stadium pushed up against the football stadium. And real investments weren't made until Chris Grassie was hired in Jan 2017.
Well, two reasons (primarily). Title IX and the fact that men's soccer loses money. If it somehow became a revenue sport schools would line up to sponsor a team.
gosh, I remember that stadium. The new digs are much nicer though I would like to see stands on the other side of the field.
OPEN Gonzaga - Chris McGaughey (interim) Furman - retirement after 2025 season Liberty - retirement after 2025 season George Washington - after season 10/15 Winthrop - 11/3 FILLED Manhattan - Tom Giovatto (Long Island Womens head; 6/19-7/10) Hofstra - Stephen Roche (Hofstra associate head; 8/11 — taking over after 2025 fall retirement) Bellarmine - Matt Cannady (Bellarmine assistant; retirement after 2025 season - 9/17-9/18) Coastal Carolina - Adam Perron (Virginia associate head - retirement 8/13-11/11)
Title IX is a cop out. Men's soccer only takes up 9.9 scholarships and I doubt that any SEC or B12 school is in Title IX hell. Probably just the opposite, most could probably add men's soccer without adding an additional woman's sport. They just don't want to take away from their select sport they sink the most money in.