Hot Seat 2024-25

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  1. ThePonchat

    ThePonchat Member+

    #ProRelForUSA
    United States
    Jan 10, 2013
    I've Been Everywhere Man
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    OPEN
    Air Force (interim)


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    It's time for the new thread to take shape.
     
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  2. boxcar123

    boxcar123 Member

    Nov 15, 2012
    My annual hot-seat prediction post. Thank you @ThePonchat

    I'll let you all decide/discuss what success is. Currently batting just under 33% :laugh:
    2023 Predictions 3 out of 8 schools Correct (UAB, NC State, Marquette)
    2022 Predictions 2 out 11 schools Correct (Columbia & Georgia Southern) Did have UAB & NC State on this list too.
    2021 Predictions 3 out of 6 Schools Correct (Brown, George Mason, UConn)

    Anyway lets get to 2024 Predictions! Only 6 schools this time.
    Boston College
    Virginia Tech
    Michigan
    (Had them on this list the past two years as well. Maybe I'm just stubborn but I'd expect more from them).
    Radford
    College of Charleston
    Coastal Carolina
    (Docking is getting to the point of where Ray Reid was a few years ago when UConn "let him retire")

    Please rip in to it or add your own thoughts!
     
  3. JoeSoccerFan

    JoeSoccerFan Member+

    Aug 11, 2000
    You haven't hit a single prediction for 2024, so far.

    Just saying! It's got to get better. :D
     
  4. soccerinOHIO

    soccerinOHIO New Member

    Columbus Crew
    United States
    Aug 25, 2024
    Jared Embick of Akron needs to be at the top of the list.
    Losing to Xavier last year.
    Getting mauled last night by Ohio State
    Has not won a tournament game in the last 5 years.
    Akron soccer has become irrelevant and very hard to watch.
     
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  5. Maclid

    Maclid Member

    Marshall (NCAA)
    United States
    Aug 28, 2021
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #5 Maclid, Aug 26, 2024
    Last edited: Aug 26, 2024
    I had an interesting conversation with a Coastal Carolina fan recently. Coach Docking has 12 regular season and 12 conference titles with 15 NCAA appearances in 25 seasons at CCU (although all of those trophies and NCAA's came before the great SBC membership shakeup of 2021), and he has been part of the US Soccer Olympic development program. CCU used to be one of the more desirable landing spots in the old Sun Belt, with a relatively easy path to the NCAA's where they could earn an occasional victory like their 2017 win over #8 Clemson. However, they've seen Coastal get jumped in the SBC's pecking order of life by four P4 programs (Kentucky, South Carolina, UCF), two of the top funded G5 programs (JMU, ODU), and a recent national champion that's basically gone all-in on funding soccer (Marshall).

    Denning's not being out-coached, and he's still recruiting some high-quality players to campus. As an example, he had brought in a future all-American in Alvaro Garcia-Pascual, but he ended up transferring to Marshall after 2 cycles through the league. (Georgia Southern saw a similiar situation where they brought in an All-SBC First Teamer who jumped to WVU this year). Denning and Coastal are simply out-resourced in their reformed league. Coastal did open up a new "stadium" this week, but the new stadium was primarily built so that the old soccer field location could be turned into more parking for their football stadium, so it wasn't a major investment. While a nicer field that what they had before, their soccer facility (along with Georgia Southern) are still the most basic soccer facilities in the SBC. Until or unless Coastal decides to significantly increase soccer funding, they can't expect to get much better results than what they are seeing right now.

    The CCU fan said that even despite their successes in the late 2010's, Coastal never really drew large crowds for soccer (and nowhere near what they draw for baseball, which is where most of their Olympic sports funding goes), so that's part of the reason Coastal didn't go big with their new stadium. The thinking appears to be that Docking is under no pressure and won't be pushed out, he'll get to go out on his own terms. Docking is still in his early 50's, so he's probably not in a rush to retire from the game.
     
  6. BigGreenTruck

    BigGreenTruck Member

    College: The Thundering Herd of Marshall
    Aug 29, 2023
    South Charleston WV
    You are right Maclid. In the old Sun Belt Coastal Carolina and Georgia State run things. They basically had their way. Docking teams since he become the HC at CC has made it past the first round 11 times making it to the 3rd round 3 times. The preseason's coaches poll had Georgia State at 7 and Coastal Carolina at 9 out of ten teams.

    Coastal had a chance to put a good facility together when the old soccer site got caught up in being in the wrong location but they just put down the bare bones minimum, I wonder where their locker rooms will be now. Coastal, GA State and GA Southern have the bare minimum to pass for a soccer stadium.

    The thing is I think the people in charge of those programs understand they have now been lapped by South Carolina, WVU, Kentucky, UCF, JMU and Marshall of the rebuilt Sun Belt in terms of facilities and funding. I can't see either firing Docking (Coastal Carolina) or Surrency (GA State) in the next few years. And GA Southern just hired Squires before last season.

    Embick's Akron teams have been in a downward spiral since they lost the college cup to Maryland in 2018. They were 9-1-7 going into their last three games last year and only needing to win all 3 to lesser programs to make the NCAAs they promptly lost to Creighton (4-7-6) 3-2, tied Marquette (7-6-3) 1-1 and tied Butler (2-7-6) 0-0. And then lost to Xavier 1-0 in the Big East first round.
     
  7. collegesoccer

    collegesoccer Member+

    Apr 11, 2005
    The change in the conference has not helped them. No more cruising through the MAC and then gearing up for midweek games vs. Big Ten teams. Now the grind of the Big East is every game!
     
  8. fknbuflobo

    fknbuflobo Member+

    Arsenal FC
    United States
    Nov 16, 2011
    Akron, Ohio
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    On the surface, your point has merit
    ;it is a tempting narrative. But in Reality, Akron was not cruising through the MAC, not in the last 5 years. More like holding on for dear life. Akron’s current struggles cannot be attributed to switching to a higher profile conference. Zips are just not playing good Soccer, and have not for several seasons.
     
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  9. BigGreenTruck

    BigGreenTruck Member

    College: The Thundering Herd of Marshall
    Aug 29, 2023
    South Charleston WV
    Has nothing to do with the conference they are in. They haven't cruised through the MAC in 7-8 years and haven't went undefeated in the MAC since 2012 under Caleb Porter.

    Even in their run to the college cup in 2018 they struggled mighty then. If they don't win the MAC they don't get in the NCAAa. Going into the MAC Tournament Akron was 5-4-3. Something has been wrong in Cub Cadet Field field now 6+ years. Embick might be a good coach but something is rotten up at Akron and it should start at the head coach.
     
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  10. PlaySimple

    PlaySimple Member

    Sep 22, 2016
    Chicagoland
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    I've been following the team for a number of years. Some years I follow the team more closely than others but I am always able to see at least a few games.

    While some may not care for it, I always have liked watching tiki-taka soccer. It's my favorite style to watch. Akron once was the best example of that style in the NCAA. Additionally when the Zips lost possession, 100+% effort went in to winning back possession. It was the singular focus. Over the last few years the team plays a much more direct style and seems a lot more complacent while defending. There is not the urgency to win possession back. They seem to lack a "killer instinct."

    All of that said, I believe that it is better to play a style of soccer that is best suited to the strengths of the roster and not to try and force a round peg into a square hole but regardless of what style is played, defense should always be played as stoutly as possible and every single player on the field needs to defend and be held accountable to defend. I'm just not seeing that. If the ship isn't righted soon it is going to be too late once again.
     
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  11. Sandon Mibut

    Sandon Mibut Member+

    Feb 13, 2001
    It's hard to believe I'm writing this, but George Gelnovatch may be feeling a little uneasy about job security down in C-ville.

    They've yet to win an ACC game, their RPI number is in triple digits and they're 2 games under .500. If they don't turn things around, this will be the third time in 5 seasons they have had a losing record and missed the NCAA Tournament.

    UVA, with its seven national titles and 39-straight NCAA Tournament appearances record, is one of the standard bearers for modern college soccer along with Indiana, UCLA and Maryland. For the Cavaliers to spend most of this decade as an also-ran is unacceptable as the University has given the program everything that's needed to be successful.

    George has a great resume. He's one of the best coaches in D-I men's soccer history and he's a UVA alum who has given his life to the program. They won't fire him or coax him into retirement without some deep soul-searching. And his resume and legacy at the school has earned him some equity that he's yet to burn through.

    But nothing is forever accept the inevitability of change. Gelnovatch likely will be back next season. But if things aren't markedly better in 2025, odds are that's his last season.
     
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  12. JoeSoccerFan

    JoeSoccerFan Member+

    Aug 11, 2000
    As usual, a well-thought and excellent execution (I meant the writing).
     
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  13. fknbuflobo

    fknbuflobo Member+

    Arsenal FC
    United States
    Nov 16, 2011
    Akron, Ohio
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    *except?
     
  14. CollegeSoccerNews

    CollegeSoccerNews New Member

    PSG
    Sweden
    Dec 23, 2023
    As we march into October, who's officially added onto the hot seat list, out of all the winless teams?
     
  15. Sandon Mibut

    Sandon Mibut Member+

    Feb 13, 2001
    As it so often does, it comes down to does the AD care about soccer?
     
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  16. VASoccer75

    VASoccer75 Member

    Oct 28, 2015
    Not sure who should be added but probably safe to say Virginia Tech, Michigan, and COllege of Charleston should be removed from the list.
     
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  17. Sandon Mibut

    Sandon Mibut Member+

    Feb 13, 2001
    So since this dumbass post, Virginia has won back-to-back games over Top 10 Virginia Tech and previously unbeaten James Madison, pulling it back to .500 and rising its RPI over 60 points.

    Not out of the woods yet, but the Cavs' odds for getting an at-large bid are certainly looking much better than when the above words were written by some goober.
     
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  18. SoccerC19

    SoccerC19 New Member

    Real Madrid
    Spain
    Nov 21, 2023
    Really surprised no one talks about Gonzaga. Have an unbelievable set up and have been very poor for a while now.
     
  19. VASoccer75

    VASoccer75 Member

    Oct 28, 2015
    Generally speaking, no one really talks about Gonzaga unless it has to do with basketball.
     
  20. fknbuflobo

    fknbuflobo Member+

    Arsenal FC
    United States
    Nov 16, 2011
    Akron, Ohio
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well, not yet, anyway.
     
  21. JoeSoccerFan

    JoeSoccerFan Member+

    Aug 11, 2000
    but totally inaccurate dribble. :(:D:D:D:D:D:D
     
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  22. boxcar123

    boxcar123 Member

    Nov 15, 2012
    Michigan State maybe? 18-24-9 in the Big 10 since the 2018 College Cup appearance. Currently 4-3 in conference after losing to Indiana last night.

    Boston College??? Steady decline since their last tournament appearance in 2019.

    UConn- not advocating for Gbandi to be in the hot seat as he still needs time, but if you're in that athletic department surely you would be ashamed with the scheduling from them. You're Uconn for godsake and you've played six games (5 Non-Conference) against teams higher than 150 in the RPI. In fairness to MIchigan State above they've only played two of those. Again I don't think they should be in the hotseat, but that's an even easier non-conference schedule than a lot of the ACC teams play.

    Not going to bring up schools with lesser resources from poor conferences. As always please rip into it and cut it apart.
     
  23. JoeSoccerFan

    JoeSoccerFan Member+

    Aug 11, 2000
    since invited to "rip into it", my only question is "higher than 150", does that mean ordinally higher like 199 or should it be lower in the RPI - meaning worse.

    I'm not sure, but this confounded me.
     
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  24. boxcar123

    boxcar123 Member

    Nov 15, 2012
    I still don’t know what’s correct to be honest! 151 is a higher number than 150 so I used it that way. NCAA gives out seeds for the tournament 1-16. 1 is a higher seed but a lower number in our world I guess?

    Let’s just say that in my post above, whichever is “worse” in your eyes is the higher/lower term to use.
     
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  25. fknbuflobo

    fknbuflobo Member+

    Arsenal FC
    United States
    Nov 16, 2011
    Akron, Ohio
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    On a scale of 1-10, I give your explanation a 5.
     
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