Hope Solo leads new Hall of Fame candidates

ok, one.

Wikipedia has it as a group stage match, but it must have been a semi.

 

You could just as easily call Akers an attacking mid or in 99, the defensive mid.

In that capacity she knocks out Ertz or Mewis in your lineup.
Give her another cup she might have knocked out Brunn.

as to assists in FIFA Tournaments, Hamm has 6 assists, according to FBREF.com .
The first person I thought of to compare is Rapinoe, who has 7.
Rapinoe has 12 goals to Hamm’s 13, but more are in Knockout games, and Her career stil appears to be ongoing.

 

Nice go at an interesting topic. To my mind, Hamm, Wambach, Akers, and Solo have to be on the all time team -- and others can be debated.

 

Interesting. Using only World Cup and Olympic stats (e.g. when it really matters), Rapinoe is next to Michelle Akers in goals plus assists per 90 minutes of playing time.

Akers: 1.25
Rapinoe 1.12
Morgan .91 (but I would discount Morgan a bit because of that 5 goal game against Thailand)
Wambach .73
Hamm .65
Press .65 (limited appearances)
Lloyd .59
Milbrett .50

 

I think you need to watch that stat. It is goals + assists - PK Goals, which is a measure of efficiency in the run of play. Hamm hardly ever took PK’s. The number for other players might be higher for all goals.

If you count Efficiency per minute, the acting president of the Federation has an efficiency of .87 goals per 90 minutes.
Shannon Macmillan’s efficiency was 1.25 goals per 90 minutes, matching Akers. She earned the supersub moniker.

both of these players only saw around 1,000 minutes in FIFA tournaments, or close to a 1/3 the minutes Mia and Abby got. Not sure what this says about the coaching.

 

Pardon me for not apologizing profusely for my too-quick response. I did recognize Endler once I Googled the name and I have seen her play a handful of times, the last being the recent friendly w/ the US. She is a good goalie.
And your qualifications would be . . . ?

 

Yes, it would be more realistic to put Wambach up top and replace Mewis with Akers.

A lot more realistic.

 

Yep, I should have had Abby up top, and moved Akers to Mewis' spot. That was a clear error in my lineup.

 

Marta and Sinclair are still playing. They will become eligible for the Hall a few years after they retired, but not while they're still playing. Sun Wen never played in the USWNT (obviously) and she only played two seasons of first-division soccer in the United States. You have to have at least five seasons (plus a Best XI selection) to become eligible by the first-division seasons route.

Which two or three Germans are you talking about?

 

You can meet the eligibility criteria with 20 or more USWNT or USMNT caps. Higgins meets that with room to spare.

 

I was thinking of Marin Meinert, who was an mvp in the WUSA, AND Steffi Jones, who is an American citizen by virtue of her father. she wouldn’t be held to any restrictions on foreigners.

other us citizens playing overseas and even for other Nat teams would seem to qualify. (Bardsley, for instance.)

 

There is no restriction on foreigners, per se. As Roger Allaway explained, these are the requirements:
1. retired at least 3 years ago, no more than 10 years (move to the veteran list if its more than 10 years ago)
AND
2a. Played at least 20 games for the NT
OR
2b. Played at least 5 seasons for an American top-level professional league and won either a league championship or was a league all-star at least once.

Neither Meinert or Jones would qualify. (Its an inherent issue with having women's leagues that failed after only 3 years.)

 

Meinert only played three seasons in first-division United States soccer. She probably would have played more if the WUSA had lasted, but it didn't, and Hall of Fame eligibility is based on what a person did do, not what they might have done if circumstances had been different.

It doesn't matter whether Jones or Bardsley were American citizens or not. You have to have played five seasons in a U.S. first-division league (and been a Best XI selection) or played 20 full internationals for the U.S. national team. Having the right citizenship to play those 20 full internationals isn't enough. You have to play the games. They didn't.

 

As an update, Hope Solo was just snubbed and not voted into the Hall of Fame during her first year of eligibility. It honestly is ridiculous that the USWNT leader in pretty much every goalkeeper stat category was not voted in easily. I'd also like to point out that Kate Markgraf also didn't get enough votes, and will need to move from the Player category to the Veteran category.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/spor...ocanegra-hope-solo-national-soccer-hall-fame/

 

I think Solo should have gotten in, but I wouldn't say that she has been snubbed. Bocanegra didn't get in until his third try. Brianna Scurry didn't get until her fourth try. Give it some time. Solo will get in.

 

Can't say that about Steve Ralston, and not sure you can say that about Jaime Moreno. At the Veterans Ballot addressed the Player Ballot oversight of Cindy Parlow Cone.

 

I am amazed at the people who don't get voted in! The article said that most HoF voters only vote for 1 person, although they are allowed to vote for 10. That makes no sense at all. Seems like the whole process needs to be overhauled, including who gets to vote, as it seems many of them don't "bother" to exercise their privilege.

 

The statement that the average Hall of Fame voter only votes for one person is not true. This year, the average Hall of Fame voter voted for 8.09 people.

However, I too am unhappy about various people not getting in. Over the years, most of the right people have gotten in eventually, but it can be an agonizingly slow process. For example, Earnie Stewart and Brianna Scurry, both all-time greats of the U.S. national teams, each got in on their fourth try. Joy Fawcett, one of the icons of American soccer, got in on her third. Bruce Murray, one of the greatest America players of the 1990s, got in on his 12th.

I do currently have my hopes up much more than I have in recent years that an overhaul of the election process, including the makeup of the voting panel, is on the horizon. Stay tuned.

 

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Just a few credentials missing from the resumes of the male nominees for the National Soccer Hall of Fame ...................

• World Cup frickn Champion
• Two-time Olympic Champion
• 200 CAPS
• Possibly the baddest MOFO to ever take the pitch

PUBLISH THE BALLOTS !!!!​

 

Y'know though, I'm thinkin' that no one who votes is looking forward to hearing speeches and interviews from Hope... and I can't blame them...

I'm gonna keep trying this one from time to time-- What's a bar of Ivory that looks as though it is there, but isn't really?

 

It's shameful, a travesty, but sadly that's par for the course.

 

She got the last laugh as they look like the complete fools that they are.

 

Don't agree, but even I did agree, leaving Solo out would only send a message if other 'no-brainers' were let in. It's pretty clear the system isn't working properly, so the impact of any 'message' sent is undermined. The actual message as I understand it is "We're incompetent."