Honduras y Ecuador jugarán un partido amistoso el 9 de febrero

empezamos el 2011...con amistosos

comentemos aca que nos parece el viaje a honduras.

 

Y en todo posibilidad, el partido puede ser en La Ceiba. El Infierno Ceibeno.

 

bienvenido catracho!!! ceiba en febrero---que calor tan HP

dejanos saber que equipo sacara Juande: lo legionarios, invitados?

para ver que tan en serio se toman esta fecha fifa.

 

Esto va ser algo muy serio para todos. Especialmente FENAFUTH, quien quieren a ganar este amistoso para demostrar ah Rueda que no lo necesitamos, y que podemos ah ganar con El Cuate como DT.

Espero que lo llaman al los Legionarios. Palacios, Thomas, Figueroa, etc.

 

En Febrero, si no me equivoco la gran mayoria de los jugadores Ecuatorianos en el exterior estaran en actividad, dudo que Rueda pueda traer a todos aun siendo Fecha FIFA, Creo que Noboa y De Jesus estaran disponibles ya que en Rusia esta por terminar el campeonato igualmente se puede armar algo bastante competitivo con los jugadores locales.
-------------------------Banguera--------------------------
Paredes(reasco)----Guagua---------Araujo----------Nazareno---
-Guerron(es probable)--Noboa----Quiroz--------Montero(posible)----
------------------De Jesus---------Anangono???------------

wow, me costo conseguir 11 sin los extranjeros, calculo que no habra problema en traer a Guerron por la cercania de Brasil y a montero por la poca actividad que tiene en el Villareal.

 

Y los de mejico?

estan a un vuelo bastante corto de ceiba

(hoy golearon a HDS en cataluna)

 

You make some valid points...there are a bunch of guys who deserve a spot on the NT in place of Anangono. I dont see why calling up the players from Mexico would be a bad idea. The Copa Amlerica will be only a few months from then and we should get some continuity with the players who are gonna be key players...Arroyo, J. Ayovi, W. Ayovi, C. BenitezRojas. I have also rather see Ibarra in place of Paredes, I have a feeling he is going to thrive under Bauzas system. I also want to see Guerrero get some time on the NT.

Why is that some people want to see Araujo who is not Ecuadorean as a CB when we have in-house options like Morante, Mina (who played well), Campos, and Jefferson Hurtado.

Who is Pedro Velasco? I havent heard of the kid. Is he good and for what team does he play for.

 

yeah I almost completely agree with you except for the araujo part. Its true that we have a good amount of centerbacks like Morante Campos, Hurtado, Mina, etc.. however Araujo is a class defender. I'm sure he was centerback of the year. plus we had Elizaga who proved to love ecuador when he blocked that penalty against argentina. personally I would love to see Araujo and Mina as the starting CB's on copa america. Calling the players from mexico will be great to give them minutes ith the NT.

Velasco is a 17 year old right back of deportivo quito. Im surprissed you haven't heard of him. he broke into the starting team in the last games of the copa credife. He is pure class and only 17.

 

Pedro Velasco's a good player. I think D.Quito's best upcoming young kid. But too early to say anything about him yet.

With Miguel Ibarra going to Liga, Reasco's days as a starters are going to become reduced. It's going to be a tough battle between those guys in Liga. And IF Miguel Ibarra takes charge, then he's GOT to be the starting right back over Paredes. The kids done pretty well in the few games hes played with the NT. He made the best decision he possibly could coming to Liga to get back in shape. He'll without a doubt be with the NT, hopefully by Qualifiers. I think Juan Carlos Paredes would serve as a decent back up.

as far as the center backs, i've said this already: the best three are Morante, Guagua, and Mina. Campos still needs work but if paired up with Mina or Morante, I think we could find a good combination. Just my thoughts, but we still gotta find that damn pair ASAP. So far Mina is my starter over all.

 

Im not dead set against calling up Norberto Araujo to the NT, my feeling is that I support calling up a naturalized player only when there is no other option and we need that player to perform a function-a do or die situation. During the qualifiers I demanded that Fleitas start at CB over Hurtado and Espinoza because they werent getting the job done. After the game against Peru where he played extremely well, if it was for me he would have started every game. I also was screaming at that time that we should naturalize Bieler ASAP because we were in dire need of someone who could score. However now I dont feel that way because we have homegorwn guys who could get the job done. Who know, in 2-3 years if we need a quality CB because our corps have been depleted due to accumulated yellow cards, injuries, ineffectiveness, ect and Araujo is in form I would not be against it.

 

In 3 years araujo will be 35, so Nah!!! LOL

 

you need him now!! not 3 yrs later....


the call up from feb/march FIFA games, will always change in 10 months, for sure, specillay in 2011, with copa america on the horizon!

 

Well when Fleitas made his first appearence with the NT he was 35, about to become 36 and he played well so you never know, age aint nutin but a number man. Heck Cafu played his last WC at 36-37 if im not mistaken.

 

No we don't need him now. I'd rather fail a Copa America with kids rather than fail to reach a WC with a 32 y/o.

If these kids don't get get the experience against strong teams early on, we will see a lot of mamadas during most of the qualifiers, like that didn't happen during the last 2 years.....

 

Im with you on this one.

like my dad said "a la dura tuvo que aprender Benitez y Caicedo". Now look at them. There's no room for anyone, including myself, to talk crap about their performances because they're doing amazingly well.

 

Ecuadorian or not, Araujo is probably the best defender in Ecuador right now, I think that his performances deserve a call-up if he is interested, I t wouldn't be too strange seeing defenders a little oldr than the rest of the team, puyol is what? 32?so is carvalho and ferdinand. I think Araujo can very well play for us at least for a while, Isn't Walter Ayovi 32 as well? we are not questioning him.

 

with national teams, Is hard to look wayyy down the road/calendar

injuries and other problems plague the dT, in decisions for calls......take 3 games at one time (if they close on time) is more realistic.

If you want experience from kids.....look for them in the next suramericano U20...... then in feb. in the sub17

 

you guys need to know that all our centerbacks are unprove. they might perform well sometimes but might screw up on some other games. honestly the only ecuadorian cb I've never seen screw up in the national team has been Isaac Mina. I remember when Vizuete 1st called him up I as totally against him, but he proved me wrong. Araujo is a type of player thats constantly solid on the back and there is no player out there like him. I really wish we had a young Cb playing at jefferson Monteros level but we don't. thats why non of our defenders are on europe.

It doesnt matter if Araujo is old or not. we could have him for a max of 4 years and might even play the world cup depending on his conditions. but the benefit we'll get is TIME, time for new young wonderkids to come out in that position also he'll be able to give players advice.

 

the time you speak of has already been given, it just wasn't used appropriately.

how much time do you think Ivan Hurtado and Giovanny Espinoza gave up for the upcoming center backs to make themselves present? we're talking about nearly a decade or more. Hurtado has been around since before 2000. Espinoza became a regular in the 06 Qualifers and just stopped serving the NT once 2010 hit. That's a ton of years.

We never saw Guagua step up to the plate or any other center back for that matter when Hurtado and Espinoza were in the NT. It almost seemed like they hogged the spot, but they had all the talent that allowed them to do so. I think that it's tough to just say we let Guagua play a few friendlies here and there, and that it should be enough to prove he was ready b/c NO MATTER WHAT Espinoza and Hurtado were not going anywhere. I also believe that the REAL "Casta" of the good footballer is seen in a Qualifier not just in a few friendlies.

Rueda needs to stop screwing around with Luis Checa and Giovanni Caicedo like he did this past year b/c First of all, Caicedo won't start in Liga. And second of all Checa is straight garbage. I'm almost positive that the only good thing Rueda likes about Checa is his ability to score off a corner kick. He needs to get off that crap.

The center backs are lined up like this: Jorge Guagua, Eduardo Morante, Isaac Mina, Jairo Campos, Jefferson Hurtado.

Isaac Mina's my favorite as a starter.

Rueda's job= Find his compliment. That simple.

 

How are they going to prove themselves if they are never given a chance? in 4 years It will be the same shit as right now, we don't even know if Araujo will be the same in 4 years.

 

yeah and do you know how long it took ecuador to make it to the 1st world cup and then make it the second??? our players develope much better and faster now days. back i the days we brought out 1 or 2 good young talents per year. now there is a load coming out per year. We have to put the best team we have on copa america which Araujo and Mina must take part in.

take J. Hurtado, Eduardo Morante, or Jairo Campos compare them to Aquivaldo Mosquera, Ivan Ramiro Cprdoba, Mariano Yepes, or Christian Zapata. yes the colombians are way ahead of us, but they aren't the only ones chile, uruguay, paraguay, in fact every nation has better cb's than us except Bolivia and maybe Peru. look at our Mf and even strikers compared to players like Hurtado, Morante, or Campos, they make them look like crap. they don't deserve to be playing along antonio valencia, christian noboa, benitez etc... and the only reason I exclude Guagua is because he can be class at times but make terrible mistakes sometimes.

You are totally right on Rueda, he really needs to stop giving Checa and Caicedo chances, sure they could score goals but they suck at defending. If anything I rather have a player who never scores but is solid in the back like araujo than any of them, plus Mina scores very often as well as guagua

 

Araujo is a class center back. Rueda would be a fool not to call him now that he is Ecuadorian. Could be really useful in the C.A. maybe even the qualifiers if he keeps his form. He seems like a player that would too. Very consistent player.

It is truly a shame we have such great players on the front and mid and we lack the same quality on the defense. It was a big reason why we didn't make it to the last world cup now that I look back on it.

Why is Ecuador not producing top defenders like our neighbor footballing nations? I wonder.

 

I know the national team has history in calls of 'nacionalizados'

will they take that? coming from a new DT...that is trying to establish his own grp to go to copa america?

I insist.....some call araujo 'old' and with no chances in 4 years
I do believe that the time is now if the player will produce results for all!!!

next year half of them, may NOT even be around, footy is crazy.