Holden out for a quick recovery: Stu at Bolton [R]

I don't know about this one. I do see your point though. Being in those tournaments will let your kid be expose to other talents as well as being exposed to scouts to see him. Depending on what club he is currently at, you might have a strong argument. But I will say this, if I had a kid that had an inch of talent and was offered a homegrown contract from MLS team, i would strongly advice him not too. Seen too many young ones not given minutes, then being release all while wasting 2-3 years. We already had a few in Houston. I'll rather ship him to Mexico, elsewere to be part a youth team that will teach him something completely different. Just my opinion, nobody has to agree with me.

 

If a kid is already overseas with a decent club, he's getting exposure. A domestic kid has everything to gain by being called up at any age.

I'm not well versed enough on MLSDA hit rates right now. I think those numbers will probably get better as the DA's get better and competition is more robust. But you're probably right. Right now a kid might be better heading to Mexico or Scandanavia if they can.

 

And now for some actual news on Holden:

"Dougie Freedman has confirmed that Mark Davies, Stuart Holden and David Wheater are all down to feature in his first team squad at the City Ground."

http://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/sport/10230255.Trio_in_big_return_for_Wanderers_at_Forest/

(Two weeks ahead of my made up schedule! )

 

So all the "how quickly can he be called up for the USMNT posts got moved here to YA? I thought that was a one way street going the other way...

 

When has he ever been a "lock starter" for the US? He had a string of starts but it's hard to call him a lock starter when he only has 17 caps and a lot of those were sub appearances.

 

the usual story of the longer he is out, the better he used to be!!

 

I didn't it mean it that way, though I concede that it reads that way since I used the word "role". What I meant was that his pre-injury form made him a lock starter, not that he actually was a lock-starter in that he had started a high number of consecutive games. Hope that clarifies my meaning.

 

I know, it's not like at the time he was his club's player of the year, leading the EPL in tackles, and getting press like this:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2010/dec/21/readers-premier-league-team-season-so-far

 

Wow.

 

I dont see a link up on firstrow or anything.. Is this being broadcast at all? If so... a link would be great.

 

I know right, I read that link and thought, "Remember when Andy Carroll didn't suck?"

 

Holden is not in the 18 today.

 

No Holden in the squad. I still blame the thread title.

 

"leading in tackles"-what does that mean for an offensive player? His team sucks? Seriously, had you ever even heard of that stat?

 

Define offensive player.

 

What a ridiculous post which is the norm for you. Do you ever even offer anything to a conversation, or just go around type and 1-2 lines at a time spouting negativity at every turn, just to disagree?

What does it mean for a offensive player? Lol. Who said Stu was simply an offensive player. He's a two-way, box to box mid. He was the base of Bolton's defense through the middle, he and Cahill backing him up. The wings would funnel attacks towards him because of both his quickness and ability to break up attacks. That has nothing to do with being an offensive player or implying Bolton sucked at that time which it didn't. You think the other EPL leading tacklers are generally on the teams which suck? Lol.

His team sucks? It didn't when he was healthy. 7th when he went down.

The way you knock every accomplishment our players make, and jump from thread to thread doing it, makes it seems you're just a very unhappy individual who finds joy in bashing others. You just basically go from thread to thread and in so many different ways say, uh, not impressive. Cool shtick.

 

As others are saying, it means he wasn't an offensive player. It's a defensive midfielder stat. As usual for our player pool, he's not much of a creative force from midfield. Runner, dispossessor, so we lose nothing defensively, and we might get better with speed and precision of ball movement in midfield.

 

if you don't like, use the ignore button

 

That's how you handle opinions you don't agree with? Hide from them by using the ignore button? I have a stronger mind than that.

Observation and disagreement does not equate equate to not liking something.

 

Ok, that's enough for this thread. We've already started a new one here:
https://www.bigsoccer.com/community/...hope-for-a-comeback-stu-at-bolton-ii.1982681/

As an additional friendly reminder, please do not get personal in your posts. Play the ball, not the man. Thanks.