Hold the Copa America in the US?

Discussion in 'CONMEBOL' started by denver_mugwamp, Jul 9, 2004.

  1. denver_mugwamp

    denver_mugwamp New Member

    Feb 9, 2003
    Denver, Colorado
    Wait, before you dismiss the idea, think about it.
    (1) Some of those stadiums in Peru are pretty empty. Think about filling big US stadiums with 70,000 to 80,000 people all paying $50 to $100 per ticket.
    (2) Most SA countries have enough people living here already to assure sellouts but many families would travel up and include a few days at Disney World. (My Spanish teacher claims that most people in SA dream of coming to Disney World. I guess The Mouse is pretty big down there.)
    (3) There's a tremendous amount of TV revenue for the Copa but the time zones are close enough to not cause a problem. There might be additional money to be made from the US, Mexican, and Canadian rights.
    (4) There'd be no home team. Even if the USMNT played, it's fans would always be outnumbered at most venues. Almost every team would have some version of home games.
    (5) The Copa seems to be losing interest with many people and it needs a boost.
    (6) The USSF would make some money, but it would also raise interest and awareness for the game in the US. Latinos from every country would have a chance to show their influence in the US.

    This probably will never happen. The politics are just too treacherous and the idea would never be considered by most people. But I believe it could be a potential gold mine for a number of organizations. What do you think?
     
  2. Pibe#10

    Pibe#10 Member

    May 1, 2003
    ArmeniA
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    its not losing interest cause its hosted in S. America, it loosing some of its prestige as a tournament (different than interest of people) cause the teams arent' bringing their # 1 squad, or not full at times.
     
  3. efernandez9

    efernandez9 Member

    Jun 6, 1999
    Joe Pool Lake
    no way!

    pls do not take copa away from americanos!
     
  4. denver_mugwamp

    denver_mugwamp New Member

    Feb 9, 2003
    Denver, Colorado
    I don't want to take it away. But why not one year hold it in the US? Give everyone from SA a chance to see their teams in a meaningful tournatment.
     
  5. efernandez9

    efernandez9 Member

    Jun 6, 1999
    Joe Pool Lake
    the economic impact for our countries is Huge! let the sudacas in USA travel south on taca, avianca, ecuatoriana, LAN, etc.....
    Besides is a tourney of 10 traditional teams, that is easy to handle for all countries in CONMEBOL, venues and travel time.

    Next copa: VENEZUELA
     
  6. sidspaceman

    sidspaceman Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 20, 2002
    AMÉRICA DE CALI
    Club:
    America de Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Not sure what tourney you are watching but beside the Costa Rica versus Paragauy match the stand have been full.

    Not sure how playing in the US is going to help getting more money for US or Mexican TV rights unless you mean english langue rights in the US.
     
  7. Pibe#10

    Pibe#10 Member

    May 1, 2003
    ArmeniA
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    besides, the US haven't helped if they wanted to this, by rejecting the invite, not being in it will not help in public opinion
     
  8. dmike

    dmike Member

    Jul 7, 2004
    SoCal
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    only way this would work is

    #1 you would have to fix the groupings
    #2 make sure you schedule respected teams where the highest population of them are living in the US
    example. Mexico in LA or Texas S.american team have alot of people in Florida. Basically eastcoast has a huge Samerican population.
    #3 typical american soccer fan wouldnt go to this games unless mebbe its brazil playing.


    and it would be nice if they would send starters for once
     
  9. guinness

    guinness New Member

    Jun 18, 2004
    I'm not opposed to the idea, but I think the US should start with building a history in Copa America by actually accepting the invitation. I really hope they accept the next one.

    Is it set that the next copa will be in Venezuela, or was that hoping?
     
  10. Pibe#10

    Pibe#10 Member

    May 1, 2003
    ArmeniA
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    I don't know if they'll be invited, just to teach them a lesson, I hope not, they'll be invited agiain after the next one.
     
  11. efernandez9

    efernandez9 Member

    Jun 6, 1999
    Joe Pool Lake
    giuness.... yessss Next copa is set in stone for Venezuela!
    Nice and hot venues (now they new to work on that ugly uniform)

    thee Invite of 2 teams, should go to the CR and mexico (been there to support CONMebol in the last 2 copas)
     
  12. DanRod78

    DanRod78 New Member

    Mar 30, 2003
    Kansas City, KS
    I'll give you a reason to not do it in the US:

    ***** The patriot act *****
     
  13. and that has anything to do with this??????
     
  14. BorrachoNJ

    BorrachoNJ New Member

    Apr 8, 2001
    NEW BRUNSWICK, NJ
    Good idea, denver. let's do it...
    you make the phone calls, i'll bring the chips
     
  15. denver_mugwamp

    denver_mugwamp New Member

    Feb 9, 2003
    Denver, Colorado
    Damn, I seem to have misplaced Phil Anschutz's number. AEG would be a natural to set it up.
     
  16. riverplate

    riverplate Member+

    Jan 1, 2003
    Corona, Queens
    Club:
    CA River Plate
    Hold the Copa America in the US? NO!!!

    The people who have mentioned the U.S. not accepting past invitations are absolutely correct. If the U.S. had accepted the invitiations all along, I'd be 100% in favor. And the U.S. could have been sending it's "A" squad during that time to show how much they value the trophy.

    If the United States had been doing that, I think holding it here would be a slam dunk decision. As it is, now they should be laughed at--or maybe even spit in the face--for wanting a competition they've turned their back on.

    In 2007, it's going to Venezuela, which has never hosted a Copa America. Mexico has not been a host, and since they have been participating since 1993, they deserve a shot at it. To think the United States should host it before Mexico is given the opportunity is a joke.
     
  17. alberto232ec

    alberto232ec New Member

    Jul 5, 2004
    A very cold place
    AHAHAHAHA NUNCA LA COPA AMERICA ES DE SUDAMERICA Y AHI SE QUEDA :D si se viene aca los estadios estaran mas vacios a los gringos no les gusta el futbol, les gusta el baseball y football <<<no son deportes. Y si algunos estadios en Peru tan vacios es porque algunos de los equipos como BRazil no fueron con sus equipos alguna gente lo tomo como una ofensa especialmente en arequipa. No les den la copa a nadie que este fuera de sudamerica. :D
     
  18. lfsr1544

    lfsr1544 Member

    May 9, 2001
    Glen Rock, NJ
    Club:
    America de Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia

    you hit it right on the NAIL!!
     
  19. lfsr1544

    lfsr1544 Member

    May 9, 2001
    Glen Rock, NJ
    Club:
    America de Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Re: Hold the Copa America in the US? NO!!!

    100% right!
     
  20. BannockBoy

    BannockBoy New Member

    Aug 12, 2000
    Canada
    This would be thee most moronic thing that ever happened in football. Let's get all the revenue from tourists and the games themselves and give it to CONCACAF instead. Mexico will never host this tournament either. The Copa is used to gross revenue for the Confederation and by giving it to either USA or Mexico, they will lose most of the profits.

    This would be like the Euro's going to Japan. It would never happen.
     
  21. DanRod78

    DanRod78 New Member

    Mar 30, 2003
    Kansas City, KS
    This is what I mean:

    http://www.usatoday.com/travel/news/2004-04-10-spanish-prince_x.htm
    Future king of Spain, fiancee searched at Miami airport
    MIAMI (AP) — A routine security check at Miami International Airport turned into a diplomatic flap when the unhappy subjects of the search turned out to be the future king of Spain and his fiancee.

    The couple and four bodyguards were connecting onto a commercial airliner in Miami after arriving from the Bahamas in a chartered jet, The Miami Herald reported for Saturday's editions.

    But before boarding their Iberia Airlines flight to Madrid on Thursday, Crown Prince Felipe, Spanish television anchorwoman Letizia Ortiz and their entourage had to pass through a security check.

    "The prince and his bodyguard felt they should not be subjected to the screening, but if they do not have an escort from the State Department or the Secret Service, it is required," said Transportation Security Administration spokeswoman Lauren Stover. "It's the law."

    The couple, who had only given six hours notice instead of the standard 72, were taken to an American Airlines lounge, where they were searched by three "top-notch screeners with VIP experience," Stover said.

    That same day, Miami-Dade County Mayor Alex Penelas sent the royal family a letter of apology about what he called a "lamentable situation."

    "The facts I have received thus far indicate an apparent disregard for protocol and disrespect of His Highness and his delegation. ... I have called upon our County Manager to conduct a complete investigation into this matter," he wrote.

    A Spanish consular official in Miami, who refused to give his name to the paper, said it would be Consul General Javier Vallaure's decision whether to file a complaint.

    "We don't consider this the proper way to treat our future king," the official said. "It's a breach of protocol."


    http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/sports/8132053.htm?1c
    Families mourn fallen fighter

    Luis Villaltas family never had an opportunity to visit him during the three years he lived in Hillsborough, N.J. Today, Villaltas wife and father will be there, attending a memorial service for the Peruvian fighter who died in South Florida on Wednesday.

    ''Every time Luis tried to have his family come over, the visa applications were denied,'' Villaltas manager, Anthony Toresco, said. ``Our family got to know his family through videos, phone conversations and pictures.

    ``Luis was big into pictures. He took pictures of everything so his family would know all about his life in the United States.''

    Toresco and his wife, Pam, met Villaltas wife, Maribel, and father, Luis Alberto, after Villalta died at North Broward Medical Center.
     
  22. and so united states want to protect there borders you still havent presented why this is a bad thing...
     
  23. guinness

    guinness New Member

    Jun 18, 2004
    Why was this year's cup held in 2004 and not in 2003? Why is there no cup in 2005 or 2006? I thought the event was held every 2 years and was just late this year for some reason.

    What happens if there is a revolution in Venezuela to get rid of Chavez?

    If CONMEBOL wants to keep the tournament forever in Sudamerica, they should rename the tournament Copa Sudamerica (isn't there already a tournament called that though?). Anyways, it is not Copa America until it is open and equal for all americanos.
     
  24. Pibe#10

    Pibe#10 Member

    May 1, 2003
    ArmeniA
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    They are going back to every four years, the next one 2008 in Venezuela.

    Yes, there's a Copa Sudamericana for clubs only.

    So now we are all "americanos," only cause the US wants to host Copa América, I remember not too long ago when people from South América would call themselves, Américans, everyone else said no way, that only those born in the US were Américan, the rest were just dirt poor hispanics, well my man, heres was I have to say....Tough, Copa América was created by CONMEBOL, and they invited who they want, and will host it in South América. sorry.......:)
     
  25. no its every 3 years the next is 2007 dont know how there going to manage that thought
     

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