Hill Pimps Bill - No Kidding!

Discussion in 'Politics & Current Events' started by IntheNet, Apr 10, 2009.

  1. IntheNet

    IntheNet New Member

    Nov 5, 2002
    Northern Virginia
    Blackburn Rovers FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Gotta love these Democrats:

    Hillary Clinton Tries to Pay Down Debt By Raffling Off Day With Her Husband
    Friday, April 10, 2009
    Hillary Clinton is so eager to pay off her campaign debt, she's resorted to selling her husband -- for a day, anyway. The secretary of state's long-gone presidential campaign still is trying to pay off a steep debt and has launched a new fundraising pitch urging donors to give money and compete for the chance to win one of three "exclusive prizes." The most exclusive prize? A day of "adventure" in the Big Apple with former President Bill Clinton. "A truly once in a lifetime chance: you and a guest will spend a day with President Clinton and a weekend of fun filled adventure in New York," the online promo says.
  2. Chicago1871

    Chicago1871 Member

    Apr 21, 2001
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  3. marek

    marek Member

    Lechia Gdańsk
    Jun 27, 2000
    OSP Lechia Gdansk
    i thought Obama was gonna take care of her debt
  4. shinyyy

    shinyyy New Member

    May 24, 2006
    You know you signed up for it. ;)
  5. saosebastiao

    saosebastiao New Member

    May 22, 2005
    It would be nice if Obama spent the day with Clinton so he could learn the benefits of free trade.
  6. HerthaBerwyn

    HerthaBerwyn Member+

    May 24, 2003

    Our old friend is back.
  7. Chris M.

    Chris M. Member+

    Jan 18, 2002
    I get the joke, but I'm curious what he has done in his 80 days in office to make you think he is protectionist? There must be something or the joke is pointless.

    Oh, and to stay on topic with the original post . . . .

  8. saosebastiao

    saosebastiao New Member

    May 22, 2005
    Well, I have been severely disappointed in the protectionist provisions that came out in the stimulus package. But since then, he has also postponed talks for the trans-pacific strategic economic partnership, which would open up free trade with New Zealand, Singapore (we already have a free trade agreement with them, but this would extend it), Brunei, Australia, Vietnam, and Chile. He has also violated NAFTA by ending a cross border trucking program with Mexico, which has caused Mexico to raise tariffs on 90 US products. Mexico has even threatened litigation because of it.

    I have always hated the polarized commentary on the great depression, because it eliminates learning from it, and it increases partisan bickering. How many people do you know (besides me) that can say that the New Deal was a good thing for the most part, but the protectionist Smoot Hawley tariffs, raised taxes, and the extensive price controls prolonged the recovery far beyond what it could have been. Hardly anybody does...even people who would otherwise condemn protectionism and price controls. It is very disappointing in our context because we are in a bad recession, and yet we are making the same mistakes.

    That being said, I don't think he is a full bore protectionist...just that he is more protectionist than is good for our country. I think he knows the dangers of protectionism, which is why we haven't seen any overt protectionist measures...but he is definitely not a free trader.
  9. Pathogen

    Pathogen Member

    Jul 19, 2004
    Like you care.
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Still not smarter than a whole bag of these.
  10. Chris M.

    Chris M. Member+

    Jan 18, 2002
    Excellent response.

    I would say, however, that decisions to maintian the status quo on trade agreements is a far cry from Smoot Hawley. I'm not up on the trucking issue under NAFTA, but my guess is it might have something to do with the violence at the borders? Just a guess.
  11. saosebastiao

    saosebastiao New Member

    May 22, 2005
    The trucking issue was said to be about safety on our roadways, but mexican trucks have better inspection records in our inspection facilities than our own trucks do. And yeah, we aren't anywhere near smoot hawley, but I think that if we had sped up the FTA talks instead of postponing them, it could have helped us to recover much faster.

    A lot of the jobs that we are losing through this recession may never come back. They will need to be created from scratch...something upstarts and small businesses have been doing much better than large corporations for a long time now. What better way to help small businesses and upstarts than to dramatically increase the size and diversity of the market to which we can sell?

    I think we should start a free trade thread...I didn't mean to get into this in one of ITNs joke threads :)
  12. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Once again your memory has failed you. You clearly smoke way too much pot.
  13. KCFutbol

    KCFutbol Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jun 14, 2001
    Overland Park, KS
    Kansas City Wizards
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Would you rather she not pay her campaign debt?

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