Hex Draw/Schedule

Discussion in 'USA Men: Fans & Travel' started by wixson7, Jul 8, 2016.

  1. wixson7

    wixson7 Member+

    May 12, 2009
    boulder
    Not sure where to post this. Hex draw conducted this morning. If I'm reading it correctly here is the initial glance. (Also double posted this in concacaf thread)


    Mexico is Team 5. Known.

    If US top group C, they will be Team 1:
    - will host Mexico on matchday 1, November 11th, 2016.
    - will be away to team 4 - Group B winner on matchday 2, November 15th, 2016. As it stands, Costa Rica, but maybe Panama.

    If US 2nd in group C, they will be Team 6:
    - will host team 4 - group B winner on matchday 1, November 11th, 2016. As it stands, Costa Rica, but maybe Panama.
    - will be away to Team 3 - Group A runner up on matchday 2, November 15th, 2016. Honduras/Canada or maybe El Salvador.

    Known: US (if they qualify of course) will host on Matchday 1 either Mexico or probably Costa Rica. Matchday 2 will be away.
     
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  2. wixson7

    wixson7 Member+

    May 12, 2009
    boulder
    And looks like others have done it better than I did...

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    American Outlaws
    National Headquarters

    CONCACAF held the draw for the Hexagonal round of World Cup Qualifying today.

    The U.S. is currently in second place with two matches to play at St. Vincent (Sept 2) and home vs. Trindad & Tobago (Sept 6 - Jacksonville)

    NOTE: Both scenarios are based on Costa Rica winning their group.

    If we place first in our current group:
    NOTE: If we finish first in our group, Mexico at home would be the first Matchday (in November), away would be in June

    Matchday 1 (November 7-15, 2016)

    USA (C1) vs. Mexico (A1)
    Honduras/Canada (A2) vs. Panama/Jamaica (B1)
    T&T/Guatemala (C2) vs. Costa Rica (B1)

    Matchday 2 (November 7-15, 2016)
    Costa Rica (B1) vs. USA (C1)
    Panama/Jamaica (B1) vs. Mexico (A1)
    Honduras/Canada (A2) vs. T&T/Guatemala (C2)

    Matchday 3 (March 20-28, 2017)
    USA (C1) vs. Honduras/Canada (A2)
    T&T/Guatemala (C2) vs. Panama/Jamaica (B1)
    Mexico (A1) vs. Costa Rica (B1)

    Matchday 4 (March 20-28, 2017)
    Panama/Jamaica (B1) vs. USA (C1)
    Honduras/Canada (A2) vs. Costa Rica (B1)
    T&T/Guatemala (C2) vs. Mexico (A1)

    Matchday 5 (June 5-13, 2017)
    USA (C1) vs. T&T/Guatemala (C2)
    Costa Rica (B1) vs. Panama/Jamaica (B1)
    Mexico (A1) vs. Honduras/Canada (A2)

    Matchday 6 (June 5-13, 2017)
    Mexico (A1) vs. USA (C1)
    Panama/Jamaica (B1) vs. Honduras/Canada (A2)
    Costa Rica (B1) vs. T&T/Guatemala (C2)

    Matchday 7 (August 28-September 5, 2017)
    USA (C1) vs. Costa Rica (B1)
    Mexico (A1) vs. Panama/Jamaica (B1)
    T&T/Guatemala (C2) vs. Honduras/Canada (A2)

    Matchday 8 (August 28-September 5, 2017)
    Honduras/Canada (A2) vs. USA (C1)
    Panama/Jamaica (B1) vs. T&T/Guatemala (C2)
    Costa Rica (B1) vs. Mexico (A1)

    Matchday 9 (October 2-14, 2017)
    USA (C1) vs. Panama/Jamaica (B1)
    Costa Rica (B1) vs. Honduras/Canada (A2)
    Mexico (A1) vs. T&T/Guatemala (C2)

    Matchday 10 (October 2-14, 2017)
    T&T/Guatemala (C2) vs. USA (C1)
    Panama/Jamaica (B1) vs. Costa Rica (B1)
    Honduras/Canada (A2) vs. Mexico (A1)
     
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  3. wixson7

    wixson7 Member+

    May 12, 2009
    boulder
    If we place second in the group.
    NOTE: If we finish second, Mexico at home would be in March and Away would be next October

    Matchday 1 (November 7-15, 2016)

    T&T/Guatemala (C1) vs. Mexico (A1)
    Honduras/Canada (A2) vs. Panama/Jamaica (B1)
    United States (C2) vs. Costa Rica (B1)

    Matchday 2 (November 7-15, 2016)
    Costa Rica (B1) vs. T&T/Guatemala (C1)
    Panama/Jamaica (B1) vs. Mexico (A1)
    Honduras/Canada (A2) vs. United States (C2)

    Matchday 3 (March 20-28, 2017)
    T&T/Guatemala (C1) vs. Honduras/Canada (A2)
    United States (C2) vs. Panama/Jamaica (B1)
    Mexico (A1) vs. Costa Rica (B1)

    Matchday 4 (March 20-28, 2017)
    Panama/Jamaica (B1) vs. T&T/Guatemala (C1)
    Honduras/Canada (A2) vs. Costa Rica (B1)
    United States (C2) vs. Mexico (A1)

    Matchday 5 (June 5-13, 2017)
    T&T/Guatemala (C1) vs. United States (C2)
    Costa Rica (B1) vs. Panama/Jamaica (B1)
    Mexico (A1) vs. Honduras/Canada (A2)

    Matchday 6 (June 5-13, 2017)
    Mexico (A1) vs. T&T/Guatemala (C1)
    Panama/Jamaica (B1) vs. Honduras/Canada (A2)
    Costa Rica (B1) vs. United States (C2)

    Matchday 7 (August 28-September 5, 2017)
    T&T/Guatemala (C1) vs. Costa Rica (B1)
    Mexico (A1) vs. Panama/Jamaica (B1)
    United States (C2) vs. Honduras/Canada (A2)

    Matchday 8 (August 28-September 5, 2017)
    Honduras/Canada (A2) vs. T&T/Guatemala (C1)
    Panama/Jamaica (B1) vs. United States (C2)
    Costa Rica (B1) vs. Mexico (A1)

    Matchday 9 (October 2-14, 2017)
    T&T/Guatemala (C1) vs. Panama/Jamaica (B1)
    Costa Rica (B1) vs. Honduras/Canada (A2)
    Mexico (A1) vs. United States (C2)

    Matchday 10 (October 2-14, 2017)
    United States (C2) vs. T&T/Guatemala (C1)
    Panama/Jamaica (B1) vs. Costa Rica (B1)
    Honduras/Canada (A2) vs. Mexico (A1)
     
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  4. ATLfirefan

    ATLfirefan Member

    Atlanta United
    United States
    Jul 8, 2005
    Norcross, GA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    There is a real opportunity for us to win the group.

    We have a much easier away match on matchday 5 (USA @ VIN, GUA @ TRI) and have the group leaders at home on the final matchday.

    Guatemala need to take six points because four might not be enough (looking at GD), unless we completely fall flat.
     
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  5. Real Corona

    Real Corona Member+

    Jan 19, 2008
    Colorado
    Club:
    FC Metalist Kharkiv
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Would prefer the second schedule. Will take qualifying period.
     
  6. CMeszt

    CMeszt Member+

    Farewell Sweet Prince
    Jan 9, 2004
    Gentrification's Apex.
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    I mentioned this in the other thread, but first game is at home and it's a federal holiday. All of us government paper pushers need to show up in force.
     
  7. flem16

    flem16 Rainmaker

    Jan 9, 2005
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #7 flem16, Jul 9, 2016
    Last edited: Jul 9, 2016
    I'd far prefer the Group C winner schedule.

    No back-to-back road matches unlike the 2nd place schedule. 2nd place schedule also plays 4 of final 6 matches on the road, so the pressure would be on early to pick up points.

    Regarding the C1 schedule (this assumes TnT finish 2nd in group C, Honduras finish 2nd in group A, and Panama finish 2nd in group B):
    Begin with a home match in the cold in Columbus vs Mexico. Get @ Costa Rica out of the way early. The 4-0 defeat in the Copa America will still be fairly fresh in their minds. We've always had a horrible time in CR but this gives us as good of a chance as any to get a result.

    Home to Honduras and away to Panama in March provide a good opportunity for 4-6 points, even if the November matches didn't go well.

    End the first trip through the Hex with a home game against TnT... the easiest game of the group.

    Open up the back half with Mexico on the road. You have to play it at some point.

    Home with Costa Rica in August won't be a replay of the snow bowl. We usually play CR well at home and we'll have both MLS and Euro-based players in regular season form.

    Early September in Honduras could still be stifling. Never an easy trip but better than opening up there like the last Hex.

    Love the final two matches - Panama at home and TnT on the road. If qualification were in doubt and we had to play a home/road series to finish the Hex I'm not sure you could ask for anything better. Either of the opponents could be eliminated by this point and just be playing out the string. Contrast this with the 2nd place schedule where these potentially critical games are @ Mexico and vs TnT.
     
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  8. Real Corona

    Real Corona Member+

    Jan 19, 2008
    Colorado
    Club:
    FC Metalist Kharkiv
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    I am admittedly looking at this from my own personal perspective. :)
     
  9. aimorris

    aimorris Member

    May 2, 2007
    Orlando, FL
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Guesses at home venues? Could just wait until after tomorrow but I'm bored.

    1st:
    Mexico - Columbus
    Honduras - Seattle
    TT - SL or Denver
    CR - KC
    Panama - Chicago/Philly

    2nd:
    CR - Denver
    Panama - Chicago/Philly
    Mexico - Columbus
    Honduras - Seattle
    Panama - LA
    TT - KC
     
  10. MobileBama

    MobileBama Member

    Jun 13, 2010
    Mobile, AL
    Club:
    Charlton Athletic FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    How would you rate these away trips (friendly fans, atmosphere, safety, etc) I think I read a lot of positive posts about those that went to Honduras

    Canada
    Costa Rica
    Guatemala
    Honduras
    Jamaica
    Mexico
    Panama

    Thanks
     
  11. UnitedBorn

    UnitedBorn Member+

    Dec 7, 2015
    301
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Hotel in Mexico city booked for June 2017

    Would love to make Columbus in November but too close to birth of first kid.
     
  12. Real Corona

    Real Corona Member+

    Jan 19, 2008
    Colorado
    Club:
    FC Metalist Kharkiv
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Would say

    Mexico
    Costa Rica
    Panama
    Honduras
    Trinidad


    Trinidad is the only one I'd say is pretty boring.
     
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  13. ThreeApples

    ThreeApples Member+

    Jul 28, 1999
    Smurf Village
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    What are the chances that the June 13 game gets rescheduled due to Mexico needing to be in Russia four days later for the Confederations Cup? I recall that Mexico had a game moved for that reason in the last Hex.
     
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  14. Hamburgler03

    Hamburgler03 BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 31, 2000
    Columbus, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    See you in cbus in November. Bring on the hex!
     
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  15. thethinwhiteduke

    Feb 13, 2008
    i might swap Panama and Costa Rica but other than that, agree.
     
  16. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    So when will the ticket lottery be for the Mexico Game? It has to be soon right?
     
  17. Real Corona

    Real Corona Member+

    Jan 19, 2008
    Colorado
    Club:
    FC Metalist Kharkiv
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Would expect it with two to three weeks max
     
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  18. Real Corona

    Real Corona Member+

    Jan 19, 2008
    Colorado
    Club:
    FC Metalist Kharkiv
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Panama City is infinitely better than San Jose. But Costa Rica is a bit cooler I think overall than Panama. Both are nice
     
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  19. ATLfirefan

    ATLfirefan Member

    Atlanta United
    United States
    Jul 8, 2005
    Norcross, GA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    11/11 vs. Mexico - Columbus
    3/24 vs. Honduras - Salt Lake City
    6/9 vs. Trinidad & Tobago - Orlando
    9/1 vs. Costa Rica - Seattle (because Alaska isn't really a viable option)
    10/6 vs. Panama - Harrison, NJ

    I'd also like to try to have a game in Texas (maybe Houston's new park), but people get weird about thinking we're no longer able to have home-field advantages in Texas, Florida or California.
     
  20. Real Corona

    Real Corona Member+

    Jan 19, 2008
    Colorado
    Club:
    FC Metalist Kharkiv
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think Denver is a good bet for Trinidad if the Azteca game is not changed.

    Kc is almost surely going to have a game
     
  21. Kryptonite

    Kryptonite BS XXV

    Apr 10, 1999
    Columbus
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Honduras at Foxboro.

    I hear it's cold in Boston in March.
     
  22. nfiniti

    nfiniti Member

    Jun 30, 2007
    Rutherford
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    Panama
    I vote for Panama in Harrison NJ. It'll be easy to get all my fellow Panas in Brooklyn to attend (plus the road warriors from Maryland and Boston)
     
  23. ATLfirefan

    ATLfirefan Member

    Atlanta United
    United States
    Jul 8, 2005
    Norcross, GA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I would like to see us try to branch out a bit and I'm not sold on KC as this fortress that people seem to think it is.
     
  24. Real Corona

    Real Corona Member+

    Jan 19, 2008
    Colorado
    Club:
    FC Metalist Kharkiv
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It's a great atmosphere, great stadium. I think it's kind of the trinity of Seattle, Columbus and Kansas City that US soccer will almost always go back to at least once each cycle.

    Although they have always shown the ability to surprise, ex St. Louis
     
  25. Real Corona

    Real Corona Member+

    Jan 19, 2008
    Colorado
    Club:
    FC Metalist Kharkiv
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So for reference, I looked up the tickets went on sale first week of July for a September 10th game.
     

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