Heskey for England?

Discussion in 'England' started by samgaucho, May 17, 2004.

  1. samgaucho

    samgaucho New Member

    Mar 29, 2004
    DC
    I just find it amazing that Sven can pick Heskey over Defoe, Parker, and Smith. He does nothing when he plays and never scores.
     
  2. Mikey10

    Mikey10 Member

    Sep 20, 2003
    Netherlands
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    Sven is an idiot. Defoe, Parker and Samuel not being in the squad is disgraceful. Phil Neville will no doubt do nothing but kick the opposition and give free kicks away to all and sundry, Heskey will do nothing but fall over and Gary Neville will no doubt do fvck all expect hoof the ball to Heskey whenever someone comes within 20 miles of him. Don't get me started on Kieron "done fvck all" Dyer being in the squad ahead of the likes of Wright-Phillips either. I'm pretty pissed off by it all really.
     
  3. jonny

    jonny New Member

    Sep 17, 2002
    Mexico
    England will crash & burn??

    Keepers: James , Robinson , Walker....yeesh


    Scholes plays garbage for England. He needs to pick up his game


    Defoe is better than that donkey Heskey and Rooney


    Sven is not a good coach


    Wes Brown is better than Neville. Good to see Lampard!


    Joe cole is very talented and he is also very erratic.


    Goodluck to England , tho!
     
  4. musicl

    musicl New Member

    Jan 9, 2004
    Heskey is utter crap. Why Sven picks him, i will never know.

    Parker, Defoe and Wright-Phillips should also be in the squad. Defoe is Englands best striker at the moment. Parker, the young player of the year not getting picked is a disgrace. And Wright-Phillips would have given Sven another option, a skillful player who can beat people down the right and get crosses in and score wonderful goals.
     
  5. samgaucho

    samgaucho New Member

    Mar 29, 2004
    DC
    Good thing Chelsea didn't sign him!
     
  6. lurking

    lurking Member+

    Feb 9, 2002
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    For Chelski, sure, for Engerland...
     
  7. Tony Dellbird

    Tony Dellbird English and Proud

    Mar 26, 2004
    Jolly Ol' England
    Club:
    Everton FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Wright-Phillips could solve our problems on the left
     
  8.   

       New Member

    May 13, 2004
    Saint Tropez
    Sven has certainly gone off his rocker,

    Why hasn't Andy Cole been nominated!! Racial discrimination I say!!
     
  9. Matt Clark

    Matt Clark Member

    Dec 19, 1999
    Liverpool
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    :rolleyes:

    Why don't you pop on over to www.premierleague.com and update yourself on the relative scoring and assist performances of all those players this past season, hmmm?

    And what on earth does the selection of Heskey (a striker) got to do with the non-selection of Parker (a midfielder)?

    As to how much players do when they play, that is for the highly-paid professionals to judge. Thank God.
     
  10. steveb1980

    steveb1980 New Member

    May 17, 2004
    yeah gr8 humpty dumpty picked again!
    heskey's **********!!! he's goin to the blues, so he can team up with the rest of the muppets!
    p.s. wright-phillips is class but he can be a bit selfish, sometimes he tries to do too much.
     
  11. Alan Partridge

    Alan Partridge New Member

    Mar 10, 2004
    Bradford
    He has more chances than the other strikers except Owen and he's simply not good enough. Strikers who had played less games like Vassell, Smith do a lot better than Heskey yet for some reason don't get in the team. We're having to rely on Owen to score goals and he gets criticised if he doesn't deliever the goods. England won't get anywhere at this rate if Sven keeps picking Heskey.
     
  12. Matt Clark

    Matt Clark Member

    Dec 19, 1999
    Liverpool
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Blah blah blah, blahblahblahblah blah blah blah blah. Blah.

    :rolleyes:

    Get over it.
     
  13. samgaucho

    samgaucho New Member

    Mar 29, 2004
    DC
    The highly-paid professionals obviously can't judge

    I should have also said that including the Neville brothers is another stupid move. You don't need 8 defensive players, 3 goalies and only 11 midfield and strikers combined. Most subs are made in midfield or up top. It should be:
    In-
    Wright Phillips
    Parker
    Defoe
    Smith
    Wright

    Out-
    Walker
    Heskey
    Gary Neville
    Phil Neville
    James
     
  14. Mosop

    Mosop New Member

    Feb 29, 2004
    England
    France are taking 3G/7D/8M/5S Italy are talking 3G/8D/7M/5S

    But you want Sven to take 2G/6D/10M/5S for a tournament possibly lasting 3 weeks with 6 games,players can get injured in training not just on the field.Who's your reserve goaly if one gets injured in training and the other in a match,is Defoe gona go in goal or is he gona be a right back.

    You dont get to choose who gets injured they just happen you have to cover all areas of the pitch,dont forget Sven has included people like King who could play in midfield if needed and Dyer who could play as a striker. Which is much better than any of your choices playing in defence if needed

    P.S I do agree about not taking P Neville though a lot of people might not think Heskey will win you a match,but he isnt gona loose you one the same cant be said of P Neville

    P.P.S try reading this http://www.football365.com/opinion/f365_opinion/story_110317.shtml
     
  15. Matt Clark

    Matt Clark Member

    Dec 19, 1999
    Liverpool
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    LOL! Aaah, the breezy arrogance of the Internet pundit. Comedy, thy name is bedroom hack.

    Actually, I think you will find that this is more or less the drop-dead standard composition of an international squad for a major tournament. You would do well to peruse the squad announcements for the other 15 nations taking part.

    I repeat - thank God knee-jerk know-nothings on the Internet are not in charge of anything important and/or requiring insight and wisdom when it comes to our national football team.
     
  16. Dansons HealingHands

    Jan 14, 2004
    Reading, UK
    Aren't they? Sh!t.

    I cannot believe people are demanding that the squad includes a bunch of players who have never appeared in an England shirt. I like Shaun Wright-Phillips as much as the next man (unless the next man is Ian Wright), and would have liked to have seen him tried out in friendlies, but I can't see how a team for a major tournament can include untried and tested players. People talk about the 'surprise effect' ... well, the surprise could equally be the player in question knocking a back-pass into the path of David Trezeguet. We just don't know.
     
  17. Gar7

    Gar7 New Member

    Feb 7, 2001
    Southington, CT
    Heskey is a bizarre choice...he only scores when the game is already decided in England's favor(England v Germany, England v Denmark). Alan Smith is a far better striker as is James Beattie, who had a decent season. Even Kevin Phillips who had a nice season but who has never had a decent run out with the England side. Anyone of these three players are infinitely better than Emile " I score like Forlan" Heskey.
     
  18. sinner78

    sinner78 BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 7, 2001
    Heskey fits into svens system and thats why he has been selected.
    Despite a lack of goals I still see why he is picked.
    He ran turkey ragged in istanbul and terrorized their defence .
     
  19. sendorange

    sendorange Member+

    Jun 7, 2003
    Bigsoccer.com
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    People who criticise Heskey do not understand how he creates space for other players. With Michael Owen up there with him, and a midfield trio of Scholes, Beckham and Gerrard, for Heskey to score goals is a luxury not a necessity. In time I hope for him to be replaced, but criticising him so harshly is weak bandwagon jumping.
     
  20. TxTechGooner

    TxTechGooner we're having fun here, no?

    Feb 24, 2003
    so who is scoring the goals then? besides owen... i guess you cant count on free kick goals... seems a waste of a position if your middies arent knocking them in... hope gerrard brought his shooting boots a la munich....
     
  21. sendorange

    sendorange Member+

    Jun 7, 2003
    Bigsoccer.com
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    What is this myth about England not scoring goals? England are scoring more than enough goals, Gerrard can score, Lampard or Scholes will turn it on at the big stage, Becks is chipping in even without his free kicks. Then there is Rooney and Vassell, both of whom have very good goal records under Sven. Ashley Cole and Wayne Bridge are both attacking fullbacks who can get forward and force goals, although Bridge is better at that but might be 2nd choice.
     
  22. TxTechGooner

    TxTechGooner we're having fun here, no?

    Feb 24, 2003
    Rooney and Heskey wont be in together.. so that leaves Owen and Lampard, IMO, with perhaps Bridge/Cole getting in the mix... Scholes has lost the plot with the national team goalwise... tough to figure out... I'd much rather see Rooney in the starting lineup than Heskey (IMO)~
     
  23. Mikey10

    Mikey10 Member

    Sep 20, 2003
    Netherlands
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    Alot of sh1te has been said in this thread and some of it needs to be sorted out.

    1. Heskey is sh1te. All he does is run away from goal, fall over and leave Owen to be marked out of the game, with long balls then being hoofed over Owen's head by Becks, Gerrard and Scholes. Dreadful player.

    2. Whoever said England don't score enough goals, is spot on. We got lucky in qualifying with all the penalties we had. We would have no problems scoring goals if Sven would stop playing rigid, defensive football, which allows for no creativity and just relies on Owen nicking a goal here and there and Beckham scoring from penalties and free kicks. The fact only Owen and Beckham seem to score all our goals proves this point. Sven also can't use Scholes (one of the world best goal scoring midfields) properly. Considering the players we have, we should be scoring bagfull, but we aren't. We couldn't even hammer Liechtenstein in 2 attempts. Pathetic

    3. What's all this sh1te I keep seeing about Sven being a great manager who knows which players to pick because he is a paid professional? Gerard Houllier is also a paid professional and it didn't stop him buying sh1te like Traore, Smicer, Heskey, Diouf, Cheyrou, Biscan etc etc etc.

    The inclusions of Phil Chuckle, Heskey, Walker and Dyer are a joke. Phil Neville is possibly England's worst ever player. Heskey is statisically one of England's worst ever strikers, Walker is possibly the Prem's worst keeper and Dyer does nothing but Run, stumble and fall over when a shot or the final ball is required. None of these players should be in the squad ahead of the likes of Samuel, SWP, Defoe and Parker. Anyone who says differently because Sven knows best because he is a paid professional is having a laugh.
     
  24. Mikey10

    Mikey10 Member

    Sep 20, 2003
    Netherlands
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    1. Sven's long ball system

    2. Because Sven is an idiot

    3. No he didn't. He was invisble, like he always is.
     
  25. Matt Clark

    Matt Clark Member

    Dec 19, 1999
    Liverpool
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    :rolleyes:

    There's them wot has a clue. And them wot don't. That's the Internet, I guess. Once again - thank God that the typical Internet pundit ("____ is sh1te! He's just sh1te, so there!") gets to make important decisions about football.

    As to Phil Neville being the worst England player ever, there was a time, presumably before you were old enough to go to football matches or stay up for MOTD, when Andy Sinton pulled on the white shirt. And before him, there was the mighty, mighty Peter Ward.

    Hyperbole. It's not something you eat out of quickly.
     

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