Henry? Cruyff? Actually, no

Discussion in 'The Beautiful Game' started by Seaside Mafia, Oct 26, 2005.

  1. Seaside Mafia

    Seaside Mafia New Member

    May 29, 2005
    London
  2. johan neeskens

    Jan 14, 2004
    It's actually a Belgian that first did it in the 1950s I think, they mentioned it on Dutch telly the other week.
     
  3. Toon³

    Toon³ Member

    Dec 27, 2002
    Club:
    Newcastle United FC
    It was acutally a Newcastle player called Wilf Haggis in 1904
     
  4. 1900AFCA1900

    1900AFCA1900 New Member

    May 4, 2004
    Utrecht, Holland
    I thought Jezus invented it back in the days...
     
  5. Duck Manson

    Duck Manson Member+

    Feb 8, 2005
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    that pires pen should have been re-taken anyway. english refs dont know the laws of the game
     
  6. lanman

    lanman BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 30, 2002
    No. The ref thought Pires played the ball twice (he came out and said as such) and the result of that is an indirect free kick to the defending team.
    Even though he got that decision wrong (the ball was only played once) the outcome was correct, as Henry was clearly encroaching and as such the defending team should be awarded an indirect free kick.
     
  7. king_saladin

    king_saladin New Member

    Oct 5, 2004
    MI, USA
    The mistake that the official made was giving a free kick, rather than letting play continue. He thought Pires touched the ball twice but he only did once.
     
  8. Duck Manson

    Duck Manson Member+

    Feb 8, 2005
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    doesnt matter how many times he touches the ball. obviously you guys dont know the laws of the game either.
     
  9. lanman

    lanman BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 30, 2002
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penalty_kick_(football)

    This is covered as Law 14 in the Laws of the Game.

    Notice the part under procedure which states:

     
  10. Duck Manson

    Duck Manson Member+

    Feb 8, 2005
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    thats irrelevant. point is that the ball isnt in play unless its been played forward. it wasnt. therefore the penalty was never taken. he should have been allowed to retake it. end of story.
     
  11. lanman

    lanman BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 30, 2002
    Pires played the ball and it moved forwards slightly (there is no specified distance). The referee then believed Pires played the ball again (he did not but this is only obvious from replays) and the referee gave the correct decision for what he believed had occurred.
    Your point, therefore, the Enlgish referees do not know the laws of the game is redundant as this was the correct decision for what he believed happened.
    Even though this did not happen the correct outcome was applied as Henry was blatantly encroaching and the ball does not need to be in play at a penalty kick for an offence to occur.
     
  12. Duck Manson

    Duck Manson Member+

    Feb 8, 2005
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    it didnt move forward. it should have been retaken.
     
  13. lanman

    lanman BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 30, 2002
    No - which part of this

    is difficult to understand? Even if we take it that the ball was not in play, Henry's encroachment (he even made it passed the ball) would result in a free kick to the defending team.


    But that is besides the point - you originally claimed that this showed English referees did not know the laws of the game when the referee in this instance applied them perfectly correctly to what he believed had happened.
     
  14. GRBomber

    GRBomber Member

    Sep 12, 2005
    Brasília - Brazil
    Club:
    Sao Paulo FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Would someone please post a video of what Henry did? I did not see =[
     
  15. Rakim_22

    Rakim_22 Member

    Manchester United
    Netherlands
    Sep 6, 2004
    Florida
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    Lol I'm sure he did.
     

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