Help Needed: Beginning Guitar

Discussion in 'Books' started by UncleSam527, Jun 13, 2003.

  1. UncleSam527

    UncleSam527 Member

    Jan 14, 2002
    I want to teach myself how to play the acoustic guitar, for multiple reasons. Can y'all direct me towards some good websites that tell the very basics in a short, concise way? Don't have time to elaborate, but thanks for the help.
     
  2. emaj9

    emaj9 New Member

    Feb 28, 2001
    In a Rut
    Well, everybody knows that there is only one reason to start playing guitar: To get chicks! Anyway, I don't know of any websites, but Mel Bay books have long been great for learning at any level.
     
  3. mackem_ftm

    mackem_ftm New Member

    Jun 8, 2002
    York
    Wahey! I had a thread like this a while ago, but now I can pass on advice. Should you want it.

    Anyway, I learnt out of a book, but I think www.cyberfret.com looks like quite a comprehensive site. Hope that helps.
     
  4. UncleSam527

    UncleSam527 Member

    Jan 14, 2002
    Actually, it would be to get a chick back. Thanks for the help. Also, I was recently told I was playing on a child's size guitar. Anyone know where I can get a decent quality guitar for a pretty cheap price?
     
  5. metrocorazon

    metrocorazon Member

    May 14, 2000
    ebay or local music stores sell used stuff. You can get a decent one in good condition for pretty cheap.
     
  6. UncleSam527

    UncleSam527 Member

    Jan 14, 2002
    There are some nice-looking ones on E-Bay for $1. Problem is, shipping and handling is $40. Still cheaper than I'd pay in a store, though, so I might have to go with it.

    Did anyone else think that the "D" chord was hard to play at first? I know C, D, and G chords (all learned today), but I have a hard time going from each one to the other.
     
  7. emaj9

    emaj9 New Member

    Feb 28, 2001
    In a Rut
    Check your local pawn shops. One thing though, take someone who knows a little about guitars to check for things like a warped neck.
    Stores like Mars or Guitar Center also have fullscale beginner guitars that can go for pretty cheap too.
     
  8. mackem_ftm

    mackem_ftm New Member

    Jun 8, 2002
    York
    I found all the chords hard at first :)

    Seriously though, you will find it hard at first to change chords smoothly without a break for you to re-arrange your fingers. It's just a case of practicing constantly until you can do it without thinking.

    Just wait till you start barre chords if you find open chords hard...
     
  9. art

    art Member

    Jul 2, 2000
    Portland OR
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You don't need a "how to" book, those are written by guys who can't get paid to play any other way.

    Just get a "fake" book, one where they show the finger positions on the neck, and take your time. Once you learn the dozen or so most basic chords, you'll be as far along as 95% of people who ever learn to play. I taught myself to play 17 years ago with a Beatles fake book. Been playing ever since.
     
  10. UncleSam527

    UncleSam527 Member

    Jan 14, 2002
    I got a new book today with all the chords in it and some "stereotypes" for certain styles and also a CD with it.

    I taught myself E chord today putting me at C, D, E, and G. I took a look at the chart for F- holy cow that looks hard!
     
  11. mikesterw

    mikesterw New Member

    May 2, 2001
    Long Island, NY
    Actually F isn't that bad. Look at it in relation to the C chord, its the same basic shape just on different strings.
     
  12. jamison

    jamison Member

    Sep 25, 2000
    NYC
    Funny thing about the Beatles, they would have needed a fake book too. Neither Paul or John knew how to read music (Paul still doesn't). They wrote, recorded and played by memory. Kind of shocking, in good and bad ways.
     
  13. mackem_ftm

    mackem_ftm New Member

    Jun 8, 2002
    York
    Yeah that's what I meant by barre chords. Don't worry if you find it impossible at first- it will come with practice. I thought I'd never be able to do them at first but now I can do them easily with no delay to reposition fingers.
     
  14. UncleSam527

    UncleSam527 Member

    Jan 14, 2002
    I don't really have problems with the C chord, but putting one finger on two different strings for the F chord is what is messing me up.

    Also, I believe to play an A5 (or any other 5chord), you eliminate the third. Is that right (also known as "power chords" I think)? How would you do that on an A chord if the third of the chord is in the middle of the strings that you strum?
     
  15. mikesterw

    mikesterw New Member

    May 2, 2001
    Long Island, NY
    Power chords will for the most part be played on only the E-A-D string. If you take your first finger and put it on the fifth fret of the E string then your 3rd finger on the 7th fret of the A string, you will have the basic power chord (you don't have to use the D string for this). Also this is moveable. Same shape 2 frets down is G, then at the first fret it becomes F.

    When I have problems with chord fingerings, or scales or pieces or whatever, I play them 10X in a row slowly with out mistakes. If I make a mistake, I start the 10X over again until I can do it. Then you can build up speed, in this case changing chords. So pick two chords of different fingerings and go between them. Remember do it slowly, and also if you feel pain, stop, shake it out and then continue. It sounds like a stupid little thing, but carpel tunnel will sneak up on you quickly if you're not careful.
     
  16. UncleSam527

    UncleSam527 Member

    Jan 14, 2002
    What is carpel tunnel?

    BTW, my right wrist hurts, I think from strumming so much.
     
  17. mackem_ftm

    mackem_ftm New Member

    Jun 8, 2002
    York
    I will resist making the obvious joke.
     
  18. UncleSam527

    UncleSam527 Member

    Jan 14, 2002
    Your kindness is appreciated, but what is carpel tunnel?
     
  19. emaj9

    emaj9 New Member

    Feb 28, 2001
    In a Rut
    I actually think there are benefits to both. The "how to" books that I used gave me basic information that a fake book wouldn't have. Things like how to hold the pick and the easiest way to shift from chord to chord. Nothing revolutionary, just basic stuff that, as a beginner, comes in handy. Fake books, how-to books, CDs, videos - they're all good to learn from. Use anything you can get you hands on. That's coming from a guy who's been a player for 20 years and a teacher. I've been paid to do both.
    ..
    One tip for your sore wrist: You may be holding the pick too firmly (after practicing for hours, a tight grip will make both your wrist and elbow hurt). Get some large thin picks. The size makes them easier to hold and the thin-ness and elasticity will make your strum smoother. Eventually work your way into using thicker picks and decide for yourself which suits you.
     
  20. mikesterw

    mikesterw New Member

    May 2, 2001
    Long Island, NY
    c'mon it was funny. Anyhow, Carpal Tunnel is a repeatative straining injury. It usually appears in the wrist area. There is a nerve in your wrist that moves back and forth (from your fingertips to your elbow) but it moves inside of a sheath that protects it. well sometimes, when over use occurs, the nerve will become enflamed and the sheat doesn't expand so now there is a bigger nerve sliding back and forth through the sheath causing pain.
    For instance many secretary's get it from too much typing. Or guitarist get it because they bend their wrist to play (frethand) and now that puts more stress on the nerves and such. When mine flares up, it is at the point between my wrist and thumb, there is a soft spot and it feels like it is deep in there. Anyhow here is a link I looked up real quick from google.

    http://www.ctsplace.com/

    There are ways to limit the stress, one is by developing a style where your thumb is more on top of the fret board, another is to stretch your hands and forearms before playing. Also warm up when you play, start off slow then build up. I usually warm up 30-45 min prior to playing anything challenging. Also as I said before, if it really hurts stop, shake it out and find a more comfortable position if possible.
     
  21. UncleSam527

    UncleSam527 Member

    Jan 14, 2002
    Anyone know where I can find guitar music to play? I don't have any money to buy on books and I'm tired of learning chords. So if anyone could suggest a website here or there, it would be appreciated.

    Thanks.
     
  22. Dolemite

    Dolemite Member+

    Apr 2, 2001
    East Bay, Ca
    tabs man..... it's all about the tabs


    http://www.guitartabs.cc/home.php

    this site is pretty good, and there are lots of others
     
  23. sanariot

    sanariot Member

    Nov 19, 2001
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