Rumor: Have I Heard:Dinho's Dead???...

Don't even bother, Teso has been "dealing with it previously" ever since he was 4.

 

Flat out disagree. Sorry. You chose a player with an even shorter peak time than Ronaldinho. Therefore, he would have to be way better than him to be better overall. He wasn't way better than Ronaldinho, therefore he wasn't better overall.

Possibly. In 1999 Rivaldo was absolutely awesome. Not sure if he was better than Ronaldinho 05/06 though. I (and most people and experts, even Barca fans) will give it to Ronaldinho. By a whisker though.

Longer peak? Titus Bramble has played at his peak for 7 years now. Much longer than Ronnie's peak, doesn't make him the better player though.

 

I would agree with teso that rivaldo had a higher peak back in 99.

Not saying that ronnie's season in 04 and 05 when he won wpoty was anything bad but imo rivaldo's was better.

 

Ronaldinho was brilliant throughout his entire career till after/during the 2006 WC.

 

Sorry, but are you border line retarded or something?

Where the hell did I say it was his fault? I simply said that he had been brilliant all through his career up until that point.

 

You really are dumb. Usually when you quote a person, you are responding directly to that person.

You should try and smarten up and realize that. Your post also held no relevance to anything else posted in the thread, and to just about everyone besides yourself, it was directed towards me.

 

A lot of this board needs to take a course in Logic.

 

Teso doesnt think zidane is rated anywhere in the top 250 players of all time, so its pointless to argue with someone with that much bias on a player.

from all the games i have watched on the players...
zidane had a better overall career than ronaldinho, riquelme, and rivaldo. rivaldo had a higher peak than zidane though. And Ronaldinho was NOT ouplayed by riquelme during his prime. Ronaldinho possibly had a similar peak to Zidane's but overall zidane's career better. Riquelme is arguably as technically talented as zidane but has not been as effective over his entire career as him.

 

Completely agree (with all ).

 

how did zidane have better career than rivaldo? rivaldo has scored more goals, assisted more, both won world cup and were runner ups, both have a champions league and three major league titles(rivaldo also won league titles at brazil, greece. zidane failed to do so playing for smaller clubs in france). zidane has had more fans though

 

from about 1997 until zidane's retirement, you can not say rivaldo had the biggest influence on his teams. There was about a two-year period or so where rivaldo reached a higher peak and was deservedly the best player in the world but overall it would go to zidane, and as i mentioned in another thread it is pointless using stats as the main discussion point with players like zidane, pirlo, xavi....they did so much more for their teams that you will never find on stat sheets.

 

Mod Note: Let's play nice.

 

Still, the differences between Rivaldo's and Zidane's career are few, and it's beyond me how the heck people rate Zidane as one of the best players in the history of the game while Rivaldo's name won't even appear in these lists. In my humble opinion, both of them should be ranked somewhere between 20th and 30th best all-timer. One thing I do know though, is that I haven't seen a player score as many beautiful goals as Rivaldo did since Maradona. Not even Ronaldo, Romario, Zidane, Henry, Bergkamp, or Ronaldinho come close.

 

Rivaldo was really poor at public relations. Plain and simple. Plus, you have to consider that Zidane benefited enormously from RM public relations machine under Florentino Perez.
It was Marca who started the stupidity with Zidane on par with Pele, Maradona, Di Stefano and Cruyff and it was the RM flavor which somehow polished Zidane to appear more flawless than a Michelangelo sculpture.
I'm pretty sure that without joining Madrid, Zidane would have never been considered for top 10 all-time - not even close, actually..

 

Oh man....now you're assuming I hate Ronaldinho. Are you going to continue assuming what the ******** I have said and what I haven't?

You're nothing but a troll.

Oh, and congratulations, you're the first person to be put onto my ignore list.

So, "go scramble eggs".

 

Agree, and zidane should NOT be included in the top 10 all time...top 25-yes

Also, world cup 2006 brought out more of those comparisons, before then, it was hardly discussed that he should be in the same breath as maradona, cruyff, pele