Seriously, if you like anal-eye-zing as much as Dumbgoods, why don't you two make contact outside of here? Counter attack starts from in deep, but not knowing that is the least of your worries. Kaka treads in deep these days. He's learned a valuable skill, and Dunga obviously values it. I don't see Ronaldinho doing that as often. It must mean he's being played out of position lol LOL Cesar is a top three goalie in the world, dude. Fabiano a top striker. Anyhow, your arguments are epic failures.
Firstly Let be brief you what are "defensive skills": 1- Anticipate opponents attacking path - limit their scoring chances 2- Cutting channels & opponent's possession - repossess the balls 3- Tackling/Stopping opponents - keep the balls in neutral zone 4/ Marking/ pressure opponent's attackers 5- clear out - helping GK while slow down opponent's momentum Now , COUNTER ATTACK: it's indeed a "attacking skill" from deep position - NOTHING to do with defensive skills as above - OK dude? ============================================= 2nd ly "top striker" had NOTHING to do with being a STAR! Example: - Salenko was WC94 topscorer, FACT! But was he also a STAR? NAAAHHH - Dublin and Kevin Phillip were both EPL topscorers in 98 and 2000 respectively. Were they STARS? Counter example: - Figo, Zidane were the STARS and they were NEVER topstrikers in any time!
This is if you are a defender. For forwards, their job is to come deep and limit openings, or collect balls for counter attacks. Rivaldo did that for Brazil in 2002, even Ronaldo. Kaka was doing that in the Confed Cup. I re-iterate; you're clueless. As I said, you're an idiot.
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Damn, straight! 1. One can't run and is being played out of position and the other can't play alongside other stars FACT!
because unlike you, and you incoherent arguments, I don't need to. But tell us again how Dunga is allergic to stars with the likes on Kaka, Cesar, Maicon, Lucio and Fabiano on the team. Players that could literally walk onto almost any team in the world and be starters. Please? Like Dumbgoods, you are at least good for a laugh.
You started to number a list as evidence by your use of 1. so where is the rest of your list, or do you have ADHD and forgot you started a list? Are you suggesting Kaka didn't have other stars alongside him when he and Milan were dominating Europe? So dumb... but that's what you do, state dumb opinions, ignoring all the evidence that contradict your dumb opinions.
Incoherent? So your argument with full of "dumb" words is very COHERENT? Now let's go back to your last 2 arguments: 1-Stars: besides Kaka, Lucio; the likes Fabiano and Cesar are NOT yet stars! Maicon is one in the making along with Dani Alves. (your argument about stars linking with top strikers is also INCOHERENT - as I gave some examples before i.e. 2- Kaka operated in midfield with good defensive skills (better than Ronaldinho as your argument): Now let me give you some INSIGHT info to see how good Kaka is in midfield: Kaka's statistics show that he has unbalanced Madrid's defending and has succeded with only 40% of his dribbles. As Publico recently explained, of the 30 players that have attempted the most dribbles in La Liga, the Brazilian has the worst success rate. Kaka has succeeded with just 36 of 90 dribbles, while Cristiano Ronaldo has succeeded with 55 of 94. Kaka has also been wasteful with the ball at his feet. Only Marcelo has failed with more passes (269) than the playmaker, who has lost possession on 232 occasions. Indeed, as many as 25% of Kaka's passes have gone astray and he has lost the ball once every nine minutes on average. LINKL: http://soccernet.espn.go.com/columns/story?id=754867&sec=europe&root=europe&cc=5901 And then comment about Kaka from " As another AC Milan great, Franco Baresi, said in El Pais: "He's not a midfielder, he is a striker. His best position is behind the forward"
Kaka' needs space to succeed. With Dunga's tactical system, Kaka' should have more space to operate. That's the plan at least ...
Retarded, stupid, retarded...that's what I conclude based on what you say above. Cesar is a top 3 goalie in the world, you fool Maicon sh!ts on Dani Alves. Maicon is the best RB in the world. You know nothing. You don't know the meaning of the word. Incoherent means you fail at making a cogent, understandable point. If you cannot understand the meaning of my statement, you are the one who is having problems as my statements are very pointed and direct, whereas yours come across as someone who is very confused. Learn English better then! Anyone who has watched Milan and Kaka's progress through his first few seasons would readily acknowledge that his defensive awareness and responsibilities grew in his time there. Dunga has put that to good use on the NT. If you didn't watch the Confed Cup, then admit it. But if you did and missed how deep Kaka was coming to initiate counter-attacks, you're dumber than I originally thought. That's a problem of Madrid because previously with Milan and currently in the Brazil set-up, Kaka's role is well defined. But when you go to a team that has too many superstars and an inability to properly define their roles, then you have a HIGH PRICED TEAM like Madrid that has FAILED to progress in the CL, you can see the inbalance exists within the team not just one player.....FOOL Back to the PeaNUT gallery for you, jr.
Damn right! Name me a bigger name than him at Milan? Sheva? Not a chance! Gattusso? NOPE Pirlo? Come on... Only Maldini and Nesta but they were defenders Therefore Kaka was the "go to guy" up until RONALDO and then PATO joined the team. And of course Dinho joined the following year and Kaka' had to leave town! In the 2006 WC he couldn't share the spotlight with Ronaldo and Ronaldinho FACT! Damn, you must really love getting owned by Dagoods post after post...time after time! You love JIZZ don't you?