Has there ever been a more dramatic fall from grace?

Discussion in 'The Beautiful Game' started by John Shuttleworth, Apr 30, 2007.

  1. John Shuttleworth

    John Shuttleworth New Member

    Apr 21, 2007
    Yorkshire
    Six years ago Leeds United were playing Valencia in the European Cup Semi-final.

    Today they are almost certainly relegated from the Championship into the THIRD level of English football.

    And if you thought things couldn't get any worse (apart from having Ken Bates as an owner) today they are refusing to deny that they are about to go into administration. That would mean an automatic 10 points deduction next season.

    Could Leeds really be about to be relegated to the fourth division? Get your money on now while the odds are still good.
     
  2. Excape Goat

    Excape Goat Member+

    Mar 18, 1999
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Stade Reims, but I do not know when they started to fall.
     
  3. Teso Dos Bichos

    Teso Dos Bichos Red Card

    Sep 2, 2004
    Purged by RvN
    I'm loving it. :D

    I feel sorry for David Healy though. He did his best but the rest of his side let him down, badly.
     
  4. keller

    keller New Member

    May 20, 2003
    On The Galactica
    David Icke. One minute he's talking about "in five minutes, sking from Verbier" the next he's wearing purple shell suits telling everyone he's the son of god.
     
  5. Owen Gohl

    Owen Gohl Member

    Jun 21, 2000
    Hard to top Leeds fall. Here are some others.

    Manchester City won the title in 1936-37 and were relegated the following year.
    They didn't return to the first division until 1947-48, though that was largely due to the war.

    Bradford, who were relegated from the Prem in 2001, will be in League Two next season. Other teams have dropped from the first to the fourth level fairly swiftly but this may be a record descent.
     
  6. leg_breaker

    leg_breaker Member

    Dec 23, 2005
    Leeds are still paying the massive wages of players they had during the 'glory days', they gave away some massive contracts...
     
  7. Iplayedforchelsea

    Iplayedforchelsea New Member

    Mar 23, 2004
    Athens, GA USA
    I saw Leeds play at Chelsea in 2002 when they still had mark Viduka, Harry Kewell, Alan Smith, Paul Robinson, Jon Woodgate and on and on...........

    Sad to see what has happened to them....
     
  8. Cassano

    Cassano Member

    Jul 16, 2004
    Club:
    AC Milan
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Well there's Napoli, who fell after Maradona left from Scudetto winners and UEFA Cup champions to Serie B and became a yo yo club for over a decade, and then the fall to Serie C1 because of bankruptcy. But now they are on the rise and may rediscover paradise very soon.
     
  9. jerrito

    jerrito Member+

    Jun 22, 2006
    America
    Club:
    SSC Napoli
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Thanks, I had almost managed to forget about those years...:(
     
  10. Cassano

    Cassano Member

    Jul 16, 2004
    Club:
    AC Milan
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    don't worry, I'm pretty sure next season you will have completely forgotten those years.
     
  11. Derrida

    Derrida New Member

    Feb 5, 2007
    NH, USA
    Nottingham Forest won the European Cup twice and when they were relegated to the 3rd tier a few years back it was the first time any European Cup winner ever had been. They also won the old First Division.

    Still, they were never a "big club" and their wins were all bunched in a few years in the late 70s, so it was nowhere close to as fast or as unexpected as the Leeds collapse
     
  12. Fiorentina lives!

    May 5, 2004
    I sure know of one in particular from a few years back. Let's just say Cecchi Gori is STILL Satan. :mad:
     
  13. wufc

    wufc Member

    May 1, 2005
    UC Irvine
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Would Paris FC count? In 1978, they were in the top flight and they were playing in the Parc des Princes. In 1985, they were in the fifth division, and eventually were kicked out of the Parc des Princes by PSG and now play in a 2,000 seater stadium. They are currently in Div. 3.
     
  14. dor02

    dor02 Member

    Aug 9, 2004
    Melbourne
    Club:
    UC Sampdoria
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Leeds, Napoli and Fiorentina make good cases but Notts Forest get my vote. At least Forest won two European cups in a row. That makes their fall more dramatic. Leeds, Napoli and Fiorentina may have had more cash but Notts Forest had reach the very top at club level and nothing is bigger than the European Cup/Champions League.

    Racing Club Paris had a big fall from grace too.
     
  15. Catel

    Catel Member

    Dec 18, 2006
    Lyon, France
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    Reims played (and lost) two C1 finals in 1956 and 1959 (aaah, Kopa, Fontaine, Janvion...), was relegated in D2 in 1979 and D3 in 1990. They're now navigating in the middle-table of D2.

    There's Paris FC, founded in 1969 and never a great fate, and RC Paris, what was the great Paris team in the 40-60's. RC Paris was bought by Jean-Luc Lagardère in 1986 and renamed Matra Racing. Despite of a few good players (Enzo Francescoli, David Ginola, Vincent Guérin, Maxime Bossis) they never became the 2nd big Paris club Lagardère wanted and were relegated in D3 in 1990.

    The best French example I know is Marseille: C1 winner in 1993, relegated in D2 in 1994 for corruption, Tapie emprisoned.
     
  16. Alex_K

    Alex_K Member+

    Mar 23, 2002
    Braunschweig, Germany
    Club:
    Eintracht Braunschweig
    Nat'l Team:
    Bhutan
    Well, most East German teams. Current division and number of championships:

    3rd division:

    Dyn. Dresden (8)
    Magedburg (3 + 1 cup winner's cup)
    Erfurt (2)

    4th division:

    BFC Dynamo (10)
    Sachsen Leipzig (2)
    Zwickau (2)
    Chemnitzer FC (1)
    Halle (2)

    5th division:

    Frankfurt/Oder (6)

    6th division:

    VfB/Lok Leipzig (no championship, but 5 cup wins)
     
  17. spoonman

    spoonman Member

    Sep 6, 2005
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    In 1987 we won the cup winners cup by beating Lokomotief Leipzig in the final

    They heve been relegated 6 (!) times since then?
     
  18. Alex_K

    Alex_K Member+

    Mar 23, 2002
    Braunschweig, Germany
    Club:
    Eintracht Braunschweig
    Nat'l Team:
    Bhutan
    They went bankrupt in 2004 while playing in the 4th division and restarted in the lowest division. Then, through a merger with a club playing a bit higher, they jumped up a few levels and where promoted into the 6th division last season.
     
  19. keller

    keller New Member

    May 20, 2003
    On The Galactica
    Locomotive Leipzig

    Won the german league in the early 20th century as VfB Leipzig. Then after re-unification of Germany played a couple of years in 2nd Bundesliga (i think) before going bankrupt and being unable to gain a licence and so were dissolved and had to restart in the german 11th or 12th division as Locomotive (the name they used when part of the D.D.R.)

    Now thats a fall!!
     
  20. Alex_K

    Alex_K Member+

    Mar 23, 2002
    Braunschweig, Germany
    Club:
    Eintracht Braunschweig
    Nat'l Team:
    Bhutan
    Weren't they mentioned already? ;)

    Actually, that's not the same club. VfB Leipzig was dissolved in 1945. btw, there was no German league when VfB won their championships, this was a knock-out tournament until 1963. Lokomotive Leipzig was founded in 1966 and changed their name into VfB Leipzig in 1991.


    As mentioned, they went bankrupt. Not getting a license would just have sent them down one division. They also had played one season in the first division during the 90s, but by the time the club was dissolved they were in the 4th.

    Although I mentioned them as well, it's also interesting to note that officialy the current Lokomotive Leipzig is a completely new club, therefore, if you are pendantic, they actually don't cary the record of VfB and the old Lokomotive anymore.
     
  21. lanman

    lanman BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 30, 2002
    Forest's drop took much longer than Leeds. Granted they fell from a higher peak, but they were still one of England's better clubs into the early 90s and it's been a slow fall from grace over the past decade or so.
     
  22. Revelian

    Revelian Member

    Jul 7, 2003
    Midgar
    Club:
    Blackburn Rovers FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    But Napoli won't ever be able to play in the Premiership. To me, they seem pretty far from Heaven. ;)

    Revelian
     
  23. dor02

    dor02 Member

    Aug 9, 2004
    Melbourne
    Club:
    UC Sampdoria
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    All teams are far away from heaven. There isn't a league like the Serie A of the 1990s. :)

    I interpreted "dramatic fall" as a huge fall regardless of time. If I had taken time in consideration, Leeds and Fiorentina have had the biggest falls. Like you have said, Forest dropped from a higher peak. Leeds and Fiorentina never had the joy of winning two consective European Cups/CL titles.
     
  24. RichardL

    RichardL BigSoccer Supporter

    May 2, 2001
    Berkshire
    Club:
    Reading FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    if time isn't a factor then Preston, Sheffield United, Burnley, Huddersfield, Portsmouth and Wolves have all dropped to the 4th tier after being champions in England. Wolves got relegated 3 years in a row in the mid 80s.
     
  25. John Shuttleworth

    John Shuttleworth New Member

    Apr 21, 2007
    Yorkshire
    Time I think is a factor. The shocking thing about Leeds decline is how rapidly it has happened.
     

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