Happy Fourth Of July Folks.

Discussion in 'New England Revolution' started by SirFozzie, Jul 4, 2005.

  1. SirFozzie

    SirFozzie Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 17, 2001
    Franklin, MA
    On the day that the American Revolution started, 229 years ago.. Happy Independence Day! May the Revolution out shine the Galaxy tonight!
     
  2. JMMUSA8

    JMMUSA8 New Member

    Nov 3, 2001
    Webster
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    umm, you might want to open up a history book and think about what you just posted.
     
  3. Ultra Peanut

    Ultra Peanut New Member

    Jun 3, 2004
    Achewood
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Even better--read the originals!
     
  4. patfan1

    patfan1 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 19, 1999
    Nashua, NH
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?
     
  5. JMMUSA8

    JMMUSA8 New Member

    Nov 3, 2001
    Webster
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    No, it was when France retreated in the American Civil War.
     
  6. brandnew_de

    brandnew_de Member

    Jun 18, 2005
    CT
    The French never retreat! Surely you mean the Soviets. They didn't have their commissars that fateful day.
     
  7. patfan1

    patfan1 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 19, 1999
    Nashua, NH
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    What did you expect them to do when Genghis Khan and his men were coming after them?
     
  8. The Magpie

    The Magpie Member

    Nov 19, 1998
    Cambridge, MA
    Germans?
     
  9. patfan1

    patfan1 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 19, 1999
    Nashua, NH
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Forget it ... he's on a roll.
     
  10. ProfZodiac

    ProfZodiac Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jan 17, 2003
    Boston, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    [​IMG]
     
  11. FAS

    FAS Member

    Jun 5, 1999
    Los Gatos
    Good luck tonight against the Galiscum. You can kill two birds with one stone, keep the Galiscum in 3rd place in the west and take the MLS coaching spot away from the rednecks :D Go Revs
     
  12. Scott Zawadzki

    Feb 18, 1999
    Midlothian, VA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    "...we might get in trouble." Well just kiss my a$$ from now on! Not me! I'm not gonna take this. Albright, he's a dead man! Jones, dead! Hartman..."
     
  13. Fires Of Fulham

    Fires Of Fulham New Member

    Mar 30, 2005
    Chicago, USA
    To be historically accurate (though I know what you're really trying to say), this isn't entirely far from the truth. The confederacy looked for help from a lot of overseas powers including the British and French (and a number of states that eventually became Germany). The French actually tried to mediate an armistace in 1863 but the threat of the north cutting off diplomatic relations with France if they kept meddling made them reconsider.

    The north then went on to entirely conquer.

    From this source:

    Even then, Napoleon did not give up. Unrest among unemployed French textile workers inspired a new effort in January 1863 to bring the belligerents together for talks. There was no proposal this time for an armistice and no French offer of mediation. Rather, France's foreign minister sent a note to the U.S. State Department urging negotiations with the Confederates even as the fighting continued. Good precedents existed for such a procedure. The Americans and British had negotiated during the revolution and the War of 1812; the United States and Mexico had done the same during the war of 1846–1848. Horace Greeley, quixotic editor of the powerful New York Tribune, who fancied himself a peacemaker, threw his support to this effort and met personally with the French minister to the United States.
    An angry Seward urged Henry Raymond, editor of the New York Times, to stomp hard on Greeley for practicing diplomacy without a license. Raymond was a political ally of Seward, and the Times was a quasi-official spokesman for the Lincoln administration. Having no love for Greeley, Raymond was happy to oblige. In an editorial on January 29, he condemned Greeley as a fool and declared that no peace was possible except on the basis of the Confederacy's unconditional surrender. "The war must go on until the Rebellion is conquered," he wrote. "There is no alternative ... Our people will ... never sell or betray their national birthright, and above all they will never consent, under any circumstances, that any foreign Power shall dictate the destiny or decide the fate of this Republic."11 For his part, Seward told a colleague that he would consent to hold discussions with Confederate representatives "when Louis Napoleon was prepared to consider the dismemberment of France, but not till then!" Seward made the same point in more diplomatic language to the French foreign minister.
     
  14. nsa

    nsa Member+

    New England Revolution; Boston Breakers
    United States
    Feb 22, 1999
    Notboston, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Did SirFozzie start the day with a fifth?

    Looking for Twellman and NER to light off a few tonight againt LAG.
     
  15. brandnew_de

    brandnew_de Member

    Jun 18, 2005
    CT
    Good sir, intelligent posts will not be tolerated here! Who do you think we are?
     
  16. Fires Of Fulham

    Fires Of Fulham New Member

    Mar 30, 2005
    Chicago, USA
    Denizens of the city and its environs that was established to have the highest IQ in the country.

    Of course that was by a quiz show on Fox. :)
     
  17. Fiero20

    Fiero20 Member

    Aug 3, 2002
    Gillette Stadium
    Club:
    Fulham FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    umm independance day... we fought the british so we werent under their rule in what was the American Revolution, hence New England Revolution... in 1776 the declaration of independance was written... french were actually on our side... louisiana purchase, definately got that from france... we had our civil war afterwards in the 1800's in which napoleon thought hed be cool and side with the south. where the hell did the Civil War come from on this?



    if thats not right i need to stop eating whatever monty has been cooking...
     
  18. SirFozzie

    SirFozzie Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 17, 2001
    Franklin, MA
    More like having to work both days, a lack of sleep, and pain medication for my shoulder. (8/30 can't come soon enough).

    Foz
     

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