.... yes ... that Game against West Germany in 1982 ..! Definitely one of the best games of all time without a doubt! The referee's theft ended up eliminating France... Honestly, When I first saw this match, Honestly, I was very emotional and even cried a little. I saw it on TV Cultura, Channel 2 in Brazil . ... It would have been better indeed France and Italy in the final in that World Cup 1982 . Schumacher almost killed Battiston Patrick Battiston
..... .. The idea of using Franz Beckenbauer as a false center-back for the German national team and Bayern Munich was brilliant on my view... especially since Beckenbauer when playing as a segundo Volante among Overath or Gunter Netzer ..sometimes was inevitable to have a lot of physical contact and duels on the ground. always .. The idea was to have Beckenbauer float freely across the field in a camouflaged manner. avoiding physical contact in midfield being a Play-maker camouflaged, hidden and withdrawn he reversed the roles with Hans-Georg Schwarzenbeck and Paul Breitner ... .. Like Gullit Beckenbauer FRanz he switched positions and roles all the time... it was very very difficult for opponents to really neutralize him completely throughout entire matches. Even putting Man-Marking all the time on Beckenbauer wouldn't work completely. Beckenbauer is constantly moving and confuses to make it happen the tackle on him always .
Why Zico has been the best player of 70s and 80s (and why circus stars like Ronaldinho and Neymar are nowhere near being comparable to him): Nearly perfect from first to last minute.
Circus players who are providing more on ball value in the World Cup and Neymar especially more receiving - off ball value, as well. Coming from Zico's fan who posted a comps vs Paraguay... from a player who never played a semifinal for his NT in life - Copa América or World Cup. If it is about post comps vs Paraguay, thats Neymar vs Paraguay away in 2020-2021 when he was still around the best player in the world (third rated in Plus Minus/Elo at the time coming from first in 2018-2020) and that Brazil was mediocre asf (still is, btw). Neymar is a bigger Brazil's NT legend than Zico.
Also, Zico expressively assumed his inferiority to Cruyff and Maradona in a interview (also to Messi), so that rules out him being the best 70s or 80s player already, now, was he really better than Beckenbauer, Muller, Platini, Gullit or Van Basten? or even the ones of Rivellino, Falcao or Rummenigge? Thats quite of a discussion about it;
.... To put ..now also ... DataBase ...from Fifa Club World Cup .... 2006 .. Finals ..... 1981 .... Ronaldinho Gaucho 9 Attempts / 3 dribbles completed .... 1 against Fernandão .... in the first half of the Match .... Las bicicletas fintas o tipo .. 2 against Ceara in the second half of the match... dribbles in speed .. agility .. and shorter acceleration .. vs Zico ..... 9/9 dribbles completed ....... 100 % accuracy ...... against LiverPool ... 1981 ,,.. Sombreros .. turns nutmegs dribbles in Speed ... was a perfect performance on my view .. 2 Assists (Opta ) 1 Pre-Assist (Non-Opta ) .... free-kick taking ... ! ... dribbles always in vertical direction ... "!
... now ... with Neymar Jr ... is neck To neck yes ,.on my view .. Neymar Jr.'s problem... is his emotional and mental side. doesn't have a very good head On the field Ney Jr... was different yes... better than Ronaldinho Gaucho and Jay Jay Okocha... But because of his unbalanced mind he's behind] Zico, Nazario, Romário, Mané Garrincha, and Rivaldo
And when the circus' over turn out the lights... It hurts to see Neymar’s form… He is still 33 years old. 🥲pic.twitter.com/3TqJ9vCPL7— Viralitity (@Viralitity) October 14, 2025 Athletes, not artists. When speed and agility vanish, they collapse to mediocrity (see Eden Hazard too).
Again this imbecility. See also Maradona [who faded with 30 years old] who was overplayed as a youngster and had back pain, Platini who retired when he lost a step with 31 years old, Best or Ronaldinho who had extra football life an so on. But according to our friends they are athletes and not "artists" such as Zico. You are a idiot, no one is immune to physical decline in such sport as football. You can get the right lifestyle to prevent injuries, not be overplayed as a young and be luck with your genetics to maximize longevity. But thats about it. Zico top consistent level from 1974 to 1983 (prime from 1979-1983), Neymar top level from 2010 to 2022 (prime from 2017-feb 2020 or mid 2021). First half of 22/23 season, Neymar was probably just as good as Zico with Udinese his first season and Ney was clearly a level below his prime. After 2023, Neymar had millions of muscle injuries and an ACL on top of it. He clearly lacked match fitness and rythm with Santos.
One thing to be realized here is that even if I think comparing Neymar with Ronaldinho is OK, because both were quality extraordinary players and their playstyle is similar, even their position, both were also showboaters, many times they fail to give the credit that Neymar was a much more competitive person than Ronaldinho, on the pitch and off the pitch. Neymar in his carrer asked for the ball in a much higher rate than R10 and was always ready to put the work in, maybe even too much (Neymar is one of the most ball hog players ever), Ronaldinho in some matches, even in his prime, was much more a passenger and careless if compared. Neymar was active, Ronaldinho was passive. Neymar also cared much more about make his team win the match and was a very hardwork player in essence, Ronaldinho was often lazy and careless about the result. Neymar was at the end of the day stopped by his injuries (his level... his narrative by his carrer choices imho), Ronaldinho instead was stopped by his mind... and on the pitch despite Ronaldinho's elite level of talent, Neymar had much more output, still more level in his prime and his carrer was clearly superior to me, despite not winning a Ballon d'Or (for those who cares about it) or even a World Cup (Neymar is also a bigger Brazil's legend than Ronaldinho).
I agree with you yes, Yes Just watch the decisive Games...of both. In their entire careers. Ney Jr ... there were better games than Ronaldinho at averages ..to both ... But ... Ronaldinho Gaucho is the most publicized media player and protected player in history of the Football along with Beckham David ... .. Ronaldinho... People protect him... With this narrative... If... If... He had been focused, he would have done more. That's not true... Ronaldinho... never had the level... to score that many goals per season..... He scored the number of goals that a player with his limited characteristics could. I honestly don't see Ronaldinho being able to increase his goal tally numbers and his decision-making power. ... .. I mean ... he was a player of this level at His Peak ..really La Liga 32 Matches 21 Goals ... Uefa Champions League 12 Matches 7 Goals 4 Assists Copa del Rey de la Spain 6 Matches 3 Goals Spanish Super_cups 2 Matches 1 Goal 1 Assist or 2 Matches 2 Assists European Super-Cup Final 1 Match 0 Goals 0 Assists Fifa Club World Cup Final ..2006 1 Match .. 0 Goals 0 Assists ...... .. Honestly, I don't see Ronaldinho Gaucho being able to increase his goal tally and his records. .... .. He never had the soul of a real top player and top scorer...Elite and soul he was an improved Jay Jay Okocha and with much more media pay attention on him always and Super Global Marketing...on him from Barcelona, Nike...etc.etc..etc.JOga Bonito ...
.. Something very similar to the false narratives to protect Beckham treating him like a victim of the system because of his years with the English national team side ... 60 years without titles already... They say this to protect him... They are helpless, what happens to Beckham, Paul Scholes... Lampard, Rooney, Rio Ferdinand, Terry and Steven Gerrard... etc., etc.etc.. The reality is a bunch of fearful, vapid players and no decision-making power players .
.. Look, Spanish football and La Liga is a bit more easier to play than Serie A Calcio from Italy in the 80s and 90s. Baltazar the God's Striker ...did it .... 35 Matches ,... 36 Goals ... Hugo Sanchez ...... did it ..... 35 Matches ........... 38 Goals ... Nazario ............ did it ............ 37 Matches ........ 34 Goals ... ...... Rivaldo ........did it ............. 24 goals .......... 22 Goals ..... Romário ..............did it .......... 33 Matches ....... 30 Goals ...... Bebeto .............did it ............... 32 Matches ......... 29 Goals .......... en La Liga ............ on these years .......
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Great Job ... Carlito 86 !.... one of the best videos that I saw ...on Michel Platini ... this true master Technical Skills of the whole world football !
Let's overlook you caling me an idiot -of course your arguments and rhetoric are too poor and ineffective to piss me off, and letting the whole thing come to nothing is a lesson I am willing to give a random impolite big baby since it costs me nothing- but I can not let you walk away with 1) Maradona and Platini not being artists: I never said this. I maintained Neymar and Hazard were more physique than sheer talent. 2) You clearly know almost nothing about Zico at Udinese and more generally serie A of the 80s. And no one minimally knowledgeable about that period would even think of comparing the condition of a 2023 PSG player to that of a serie A top one back then. 3) Same for longevity. To hear someone comparing a 33 yo player born in the 50s to a 33 yo still-in-activity one just makes me laugh. Ages have past in the science of training, nutrition, medicine, rehab, surgery.
... .. yes... I agree with you dear Mate ! It's not the first time that Tropeiro has gone a little overboard and ended up doing this Tropeiro To have your own opinion There's no need to curse or attack anyone... A sign of a lack of elegance and education as an adult person at all .
I don't need to consider what you said or not, that holds no value, I just need you to realize to the fact that no one player is immune to physical decline (injury-related, age-related, behaviour-related etc), doesn't matter if you consider them kings, artists, warriors, clowns or - ultimately - football players and you just confirmed my point with your answer, as Best, Maradona, Platini and Ronaldinho are quite a example of physical decline in younger than or similar age of 2025 Neymar, for a reason or another, doesn't matter how you consider them to be. Btw, you are a troll and I don't have obligation to be polite with a troll - you are not decent whatsoever - and people aren't as dumb as you act. You are a fake.
Sometimes I look at your name here and wonder, how did Wiliam Felipe Gracek become Wiliam Felipe Gracek?
Man you need me to realize, but unfortunately for you I don't need considering you at all. Indeed it was you to answer my message. I would never waste a single minute on your laughable list or whatever fart a ridicule windbag like you you can produce. You are not even close to make a troll. You are just a completely negligible big baby. Adieu.
Michel Platini assists in France that transfermarket missed I’ll be updating this whenever I get the chance. Today, I’m starting by posting 9 assists Transfermarket credits Michel Platini with 0 assists in this match when he actually made 2 assists Olympique Marseille - AS Saint-Étienne, 10/08/1979 - Ligue 1 - Match sheet | Transfermarkt Assist one at minute 4:03 Assist two at minute 13:11 ———————————— Transfermarket credits Michel Platini with 0 assists in this match when he actually made one assist OGC Nice - AS Saint-Étienne, 24/11/1979 - Ligue 1 - Match sheet | Transfermarkt Assist 1 at minute 10:05 ———————————— Transfermarket credits Michel Platini with 0 assists in this match when he actually made 2 assists AS Saint-Étienne - AS Monaco, 14/03/1981 - Ligue 1 - Match sheet | Transfermarkt Assist 1 at minute 5:38 Assist 2 at minute 7:09 —————————————- Transfermarket credits Michel Platini with 0 assists in this match when he actually made 3 assists AS Saint-Étienne - FC Girondins Bordeaux, 27/03/1982 - Ligue 1 - Match sheet | Transfermarkt Assist 1 at 0:53 Assist 2 at minute 1:17 Assist 3 at minute 7:00 ——————————————— Transfermarket credits him with one assist(to Larios) in this match when he actually made 2 assists AS Saint-Étienne - FC Metz, 07/05/1982 - Ligue 1 - Match sheet | Transfermarkt Assist one to Larios at 0:35 Assist 2 to Battiston at minute 2:32