Happy birthday to the greatest number 10 of all time

Discussion in 'The Beautiful Game' started by babaorum, Jun 21, 2025.

  1. carlito86

    carlito86 Member+

    Jan 11, 2016
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Ridiculous as in he was out of this world.


    Once I’ve got a complete picture of who Michel Platini truly was as a player, I’ll be able to answer your question about how highly I rate him.
    Over the past few weeks, I’ve been watching every available Juventus match and highlight of his that I could find, noting every major chance created, assist, pre-assist, and outstanding dribbling run.


    It’s about time every lingering football myth surrounding this player is put to rest once and for all.

    I’ll post my findings here once I’m fully satisfied with it.
     
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  2. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024


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    ..

    Hahahahaha


    you're totally funny Carlito 86 !

    I think it's because you watch a lot about the Italian mafia

    like

    Goodfellas
    or Soprano series



    ....
    ..


    well ,



    Again...everything you discover

    about Platini

    I've known him since 2003

    more or less this


    ........
    ..

    But recently I've been watching more of his games...

    back in France

    at Nancy and at Saint Etienne years

    It's cool

    that French commentators

    always mention

    Platini's idolatry

    by Edson Arantes Pelé and Johan Cruyff...

    they mention

    Pelé's great plays in the 1970 World Cup and the 1974 Cruyff's World Cup

    that Michel Platini deliberately tries to replicate, copy, and repeat the same plays on French pitches.




    ...

    sometimes

    He did it really ..


    with great brilliance


    ...
    ..

    for the ambition of Saint Etienne's project to win a European Champions Cup or UEFA Cup.....

    But unfortunately the project foundered at an international level to win major Titles .





    Platini scored a goal
    from midfield


    Long Shots


    ....
    The good thing about Michel Platini

    he tried a lot

    Long Shots
    and
    Shoots from Distance

    because of Pelé's influence

    in his life

    and finishing skills

    with curved shots

    Cruyff-style

    Lob Goals...



    ...
    ..


    Another good thing...

    is that he wasn't extremely dependent

    on scoring only penalty goals

    like
    Maradona,
    Baggio
    and
    Ronaldinho Gaucho.




    Johnny Rep
    Larios
    Paolo Rossi ...etc;;etc..

    shared the penalties goals with Michel....Platini ....

    so it's good to learn to live and work without too many penalty goals
     
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  3. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024

    yes , I agree with you dear Mate !


    You really have to investigate the true facts and do your research.
     
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  4. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024

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    The motto of the Royal Society of London is "Nullius in verba," which means "take no one's word for it" in Latin. This motto reflects the organization's commitment to basing knowledge on experiment and evidence, rather than relying solely on authority.
     
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  5. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024

    I rate ... 8 ## Michel Platini ...and ..9## Johan Cruyff Of all time . "!


    it is neck To neck really on my view .. " !


    I can add... Diego Armando Maradona , Moreno , Zico e Didi Folha Seca ..

    continues from being ... neck To neck Battle ... at all . "!
     
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  6. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024

    Ronaldo Nazario de Lima ... also it is neck To neck ..by Ronaldo's Style ... "!
     
  7. Prasenjit

    Prasenjit Member

    Barcelona
    Argentina
    Aug 25, 2025
    Pls continue research on his deeds in uefa cup and cup winners' cup as well.also his goal contribution wrt team goals.
     
  8. ffff15

    ffff15 Member

    Argentina
    Sep 29, 2021
    As much as I love Der Kaiser, I don't agree with him being placed that high! He was always a 9/10 level player and never reached 10/10. always consistently great, but not the best. Tbh, I don't rate players who weren’t efficient in the final third. Final third maestros are better!
     
  9. Frank73

    Frank73 Member

    Inter Milan
    Brazil
    Mar 22, 2025
    Italy

    Just finished to (re)watch two historical amistosos from 1981: England vs Brazil (0-1) and France vs Brazil (1-3). Maybe those two plays being friendlies makes them a bit deceptive (and too bad Platini was not on the pitch in the latter one), but I have to say at the end of the day I went under the very very clear impression that Zico was undoubtedly and by a large margin the best player in the world back then (and Eder was likely second best). French NT player looked no more than amateurs in comparison. And I am talking of the team that ended up getting 4th place at WC82 just one year later. Amateurs in front of artists. Zico is the most underrated player ever, not Platini. The most elegant and the most underrated.
     
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  10. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024

    ....
    ..

    yes ,

    Zico is in my official Top 25 Of all time !



    ...

    rating Zico as ## Top - 18 ...- Of all time


    not that much bad on my view ..at All


    ...
    I'm leaving out

    players
    like

    JUan Alberto Schiaffino
    Hector Scarone
    Pedro Virgilio Rocha
    Hidegkuti Nandor
    Jozsef Bozsik
    Zizinho
    Zagallo Mario Wolf
    Ademir de Menezes
    Mario Alberto Kempes
    Cubillas Teo
    Luis Suarez Miramontes
    Gianni Rivera
    Angel Di Maria
    Pedernera
    Czibor
    Stanley Matthews
    Duncan Edwards
    Leonidas da Silva
    Carlos Alberto Torres
    etc..etc..etc..etc..etc..
     
  11. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024

    Perfect comment on my view yes . "!
     
  12. Isaías Silva Serafim

    Real Madrid
    Brazil
    Dec 2, 2021
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    He were seen as his team's best player above Gerd Müller who were scoring goals as there weren't tomorrow. Because of his influence in all phases of the game. What he did were never seen before and since then. I don't know what more he is supposed to do to be considered an ATG player. He won 3 CLs, an euro and a world cup all being his team best player
     
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  13. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024


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    ...
    I'll say more German National Team from 1966 to 1976... it was really cool and enjoyable to watch the entire matches



    with the tactical scheme
    with several defensive liberos...

    Franz Beckenbauer the more famous and Elegant on the Field
    Vogts Berti
    Breitner Paul
    Horst-Dieter Höttges and Hans-Georg Schwarzenbeck


    ....
    ..

    with 3 attackers or 4 attackers up front


    ...
    ...

    for me...

    People talk a lot about the Netherlands in 1974...

    but Germany ...60's 70's

    was also

    quite revolutionary tactically speaking .
     
  14. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024

    ...
    ..

    on Gerd Muller vs .Franz Beckenbauer

    it is extremely harder to answer to you correctly ..this question ..on my view ,, !



    for example


    1972

    FRanz Beckenbauer ..== Ballon d'Or
    Gunter Netzer ............. == German Footballer of the Year
    Gerd .Muller ...== Soulier d'Or

    Netzer
    Gerd Muller == Ballon d'Argent drawned ... only .. 2 points behind Beckenbauer ,.


    Cruyff == Ballon D'Bronze only 8 points behind ...Beckenbauer ..
     
  15. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024


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    ...










    To help you ...in your researching my dear Mate .. !


    have ..

    Shoots from Distance
    Dribbling skills .... some rare plays ..
    Passing skills .... some rare plays .. !
     
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  16. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024

    ... well, Frank 1973 ,



    you think so very very Equal to the ex-player called the Old Vampeta ...


    i like Vampeta's Ranking List ..yes .


    He reminds always on Zico , Johan Cruyff and Michel Platini ...



    even to Vampeta ... sometimes ... He thinks so Zico Of being better than Pelé .;;

    or on the same Level at Least



     
  17. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024

    ...

    https://www.youtube.com/shorts/aGgPkNzmQBk
     
  18. ffff15

    ffff15 Member

    Argentina
    Sep 29, 2021
    He is still 12th in my list
     
  19. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024


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    ..

    The best French generation of all time
    was definitely
    the generation

    from 1996 to 2006

    it was a very complete and experienced squad
    at that time.




    This generation of Platini

    was always full of ups and downs.


    As I told you before... I have examples of the entire games against Italy 1978 friendly against Brazil 1977 and 1978 .


    France did not suffer historic defeats by miracles, good lucky



    and performances


    Of Michel Platini , Henri Michel , Didier Six and M. Tresor as a Libero ...




    ....
    ..

    they saved France from being totally humiliated by Brazil in 1977.. 78 ..and Italy 1978

    friendly ..


    It was a very unstable generation



    like Gullit and Van Basten years for Holland ... ups and downs always .. !



    ..
    ......
    The KOpa generation... Piantoni, Fontaine, Jonquet, Muller...
    Vincent

    was better

    or at Least on the same Level ... at all . "!
     
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  20. carlito86

    carlito86 Member+

    Jan 11, 2016
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    @babaorum @PDG1978 @Wiliam Felipe Gracek @Isaías Silva Serafim @ffff15 @SayWhatIWant


    Michel Platini at Juventus – The Definitive Compilation


    After binge watching almost every single Michel Platini video on YouTube from full match compilations with all his touches to Juventus highlights between 1982/83 and 1986/87 I decided to put together something amazing.


    For the benefit of myself and other forum members I’ve put together what I believe to be the single most comprehensive compilation of Michel Platini’s time at Juventus.



    The video runs for about 21 minutes and features roughly 200 clips



    My final judgement isn’t that Michel Platini is just a top 5 all timer it’s that he has a genuine case for being the highest peak level performer I have ever watched


    And this is coming from someone who openly supports Cristiano Ronaldo and usually has a pretty critical view of older generation players. But after diving deep into Platini’s games, highlights, and overall influence, I can’t deny what I’ve seen.

    I can’t lie

    At his best, he reached a level that very few if any have ever matched.


    I’ll also add this here, even if it’s not directly related that I partially take back some of the negative comments I’ve made about Paolo Rossi. While he definitely wasn’t the most clinical finisher he was actually a world class dribbler and a very very good crosser of the ball.


    So that’s my final judgment on the player in question, and unless I somehow come across a substantial amount of footage from Platini’s time in France, I won’t be making any more videos on him. I feel like this project already covers everything that needed to be shown

    His goals, creativity and overall genius are all there in full and no stone has been left unturned.
     
  21. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024


    the own Michel Platini

    ....
    ...

    agree with you dear Mate !


    ...
    Platini

    says:

    playing for French clubs

    Platini has said several times this
    in public

    that French clubs lacked
    more professional and high-level infra-structure

    ..

    French football in the Platini's era

    reminds me a lot

    of the rural fields varzeas in Brazil

    a touch of amateurism

    ...

    I mean

    It doesn't mean a lack of technical quality
    But rather

    a lack of champion infrastructure

    and professional regime , highly rigid

    without drinks, etc.etc.



    ....
    ..

    Platini said :

    that

    at Saint Etienne it was the same

    imagine
    on the other french teams " professional clubs in that age "


    Saint Etienne was runners up from the older European Champions Cup 1975/1976 season ..



    .....

    Platini said at Juventus...

    everything was perfect
    it was a matter of adapting

    to the greater demands of Italian football.
     
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  22. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024


    Great video .. yes . Carlito 86 ! Congratulations at all .
     
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  23. Wiliam Felipe Gracek

    Santos FC
    France
    Feb 3, 2024

    Platini or Diego Maradona or Cruyff or Zico for you ????


    What do you think so about them after all ???
     
  24. babaorum

    babaorum Member+

    Aug 20, 2005
    Marseille
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    To be fair, Giresse, Rocheteau and Battiston were also missing. France had a mediocre year.
    The late 70's/early 80's French team was quite unconsistent, 'unstable' as you said. But so was Kopa's team.
    That was not the case between 1982 and 1986 however. The team became quite consistent and better balanced then, with the addition of a very reliable GK (Bats), a hard-working midfielder (Luis Fernandez) and with the building of a very solid backline.
     
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  25. babaorum

    babaorum Member+

    Aug 20, 2005
    Marseille
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    Great job Carlito !
     
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