Hamas Attacks, Israel Responds

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  1. charlie15

    charlie15 Member+

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    Is there a link to this article? Source? Would like to see more details. I don’t have many reasons to doubt it though. Similar thoughts have been publicly expressed at different levels of Israeli government and politics.
     
  2. mebeSajid

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    Think it was published in Israel Hayom, Sheldon Adelson’s rag.
     
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  3. Naughtius Maximus

    Jul 10, 2001
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    Can't help noticing this is after there have been stories about hamas fighters being captured.

    One good thing that might come out of this... hopefully we can dispense with these stories that everyone in Gaza supports hamas now. You don't normally need gun fire to stop people getting their hands on you if they all support you.
     
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  4. Naughtius Maximus

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    It's the only language it understands.
     
  5. The Jitty Slitter

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    Welcome to the thread BTW Mebe

    nice to get some measured comment from your POV (even if you overrate Wenger)
     
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  6. Naughtius Maximus

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    Yeah, but you're like me... you're getting old and you forget shit.
     
  7. Naughtius Maximus

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    This is what people keep missing. In a FPTP voting system if you don't vote for Biden you're voting for Trump.
     
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  8. Belgian guy

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    Invoking Dutroux in this context is kind of insane. And also so weirdly specific that her walking back of the statement is weird. I cannot imagine that's a name she just pulled out of her hat.
     
  9. Belgian guy

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    I believe this is meant to be the original source of that claim:

    https://www.israelhayom.co.il/magazine/hashavua/article/14889801
     
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  10. Naughtius Maximus

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    One nazi at a time dude, one nazi at a time :)

    Of course, people could also involve themselves more in politics if they want to achieve a change in the policies on offer from the parties liable to stand a chance of getting elected.

    But, then, that would mean having to possibly compromise on their delicate sensibilities and NOBODY wants that :)
     
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  11. yossarian

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    And the alternative will be worse, we had a four year preview already. You're fine with that. So be it, indeed.
     
  12. The Jitty Slitter

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    Trump guarantees expanded genocide in ukraine for starters
     
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  13. Cascarino's Pizzeria

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    Seems like the IDFs goal is to drive Pals into the Sinai and de-populate Gaza as much as possible. Rafah now has hundreds of thousands of refugees.
     
  14. The Jitty Slitter

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    Exactly - this was the whole reason the @Knave rule was coined on this forum.

    if you don't like things, you need to organise and use your electoral weight. The dumbest thing you can do is acquiesce - that is actually how you get fascism.
     
  15. Naughtius Maximus

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    #7290 Naughtius Maximus, Dec 5, 2023
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    The problem with US foreign policy, particularly Biden, isn't what he's doing now. It's utterly ludicrous cover he's provided in the past.

    Can you imagine any previous US president giving cover of another country guilty of apartheid or, at least, acts not dissimilar to it?

    At the very least they should have been more detached. If they had been the Israelis might not have been so aggressive in continuing to invade the west bank and blockade gaza... or maybe they would. But at least they wouldn't be able to claim they'd got western backing for their aggression.
     
  16. Naughtius Maximus

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    I've told yer, you can't come here. We have to draw the line somewhere.
     
  17. Naughtius Maximus

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    Yeah, but probably losers who haven't asked the basic question, what's in it for them?

    Also, not donny tiny hands supporters I'm guessing.
     
  18. deejay

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    I'm never sure how seriously to take this account but it is a data point. Apparently there is increased push back on Hamas.

     
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  19. charlie15

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    @The Jitty Slitter , I will never tolerate any slight or disrespect toward Arsene. Consider yourself warned. :)
     
  20. charlie15

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    Bibi's government really have the BEST people......where do they get those characters from? SMH.
     
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  21. Dr. Wankler

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    Here's a speech from July by the guy interviewed in the podcast Yasik posted. The guy is NOT a fan of Netenyahu. The speech is from a protest against the government back in July

    https://mattifriedman.com/2023/07/09/speech-at-jerusalem-protest-9-7-23/

    Basically, he sees Netenyahu's government as threatening Israel with the same dissolution faced by Lebanon decades ago...

    In the Netanyahu government, a minister from the violent fringes of the right is given control of the police, and his own militia. Another minister from the messianic edge of the settler movement is handed control of the state treasury. Taxpayers’ money is taken not to integrate the Haredi population, but to buttress Haredi autonomy. Political cracks are becoming visible in the army. Anyone who knows Lebanon knows where this can lead.​

     
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  22. Belgian guy

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    Weird story.
     
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  23. deejay

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  24. deejay

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    What an absolute putrid mess. Can't we have one decent actor in this region?
     
  25. M

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    At the very least there should be conditions attached to the $3.5bn of military welfare a year the US provides. Of course the political reality is that Congress would likely override any attempt by Biden to do so.
     

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