Hamas Attacks, Israel Responds

This is a long video, but it doesn't take long to recognize the clear indoctrination that Israelis have been fed. It's via reddit, so I don't know how to embed the video here.

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Yeah, that seems sub-optimal, doesn't it.

Of course, you could probably cherry pick the same sort of interviews in Gaza and the west bank as well.

 

I think it only makes sense to accept that people like Netanyahu, despite saying they want peace, probably don't.

They're not unhappy maintaining a sort of low level conflict if it means it provides an excuse for increasing amounts of land to be taken and controlled. Although, obviously, they never envisaged this latest atrocity occurring.

TBH I don't think there's another plausible reason for the way they've been acting over the past few decades. It's the only thing that makes sense.

 

It's by Abby Martin who has, shall we say, her own 'interpretation' of things including the matter of being a 9/11 'truther' which was was against, then for, then against.

That's the thing about people like that. If you don't like her opinion about something, give it a minute and another will be along. Y'know, a bit like buses.

Put it this way. She's admired by Glen Greenwald

Having said that the film mainly consists of ordinary Israelis stating their opinions which is not unreasonable in one way. The problem is in who chooses which ones are selected for showing.

Like I say, you could make the same film in Gaza or the west bank, and probably easier.

 

in Bibi’s case the war might also be keeping him out of jail. Don’t know the details but I think he’s facing potential corruption charges.

 

Yemen’s Houthi rebels seize cargo ship in Red Sea and call Israeli vessels ‘legitimate targets’
Footage shows masked gunmen jumping on to Galaxy Leader, which Israel says is British-owned
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...seize-cargo-ship-galaxy-leader-red-sea-israel

This seems to be a major escalation. If ships can't reach Israel via the Red Sea, it will add considerable costs as ships have to go around the whole of Africa and the Mediterranean Sea.

 

So what can Israel do? Yemen is about 2000 km away.
Is the USA going to be involved? They're said to be consulting with allies, but I doubt European countries are eager to get involved in the Red Sea.

 

Surely the IDF has been sending spy planes over Gaza regularly for decades. They've had all the opportunity and technological ability to do so. That they've razed much of Gaza to rubble in the last 6 weeks should make no difference to what they ALMOST CERTAINLY KNEW beforehand.

 

I don't think the IDF should be particularly subject to skepticism. The average observer should be very skeptical of what any military puts forth publically. But the IDF has a long history of observable bullshit reasoning that later on is very clearly determined to be lies. They aren't alone by any means, yet that doesn't negate what they are doing now.

 

I'm saying there may be limits to what aerial surveillance can achieve in a modern, dense urban environment. The rubble likely complicates a situation the technology is not well-suited for.

I could be wrong and ground-penetrating radar is the bee's knees for distinguishing land use changes that are separated by very small intervals of time, but I sort of doubt it's that great in such situations.

It's really annoying when people think that because a technology exists, all possible applications of said technology are a simple and perfectly efficacious method of discovering whatever it is one thinks should be discoverable.

 

So many posts devoted to arguing about videos, laptops and tunnels.
Meanwhile the death toll is now at over 13000 people.
Proportional to the population in Gaza, that is equivalent to twice the amount of Corona deaths in the U.S.

 

What part of my post doesn't make sense to you? That Israel regularly flies over Gaza (and the West Bank, for that matter) for the purpose of spying? That they've got the technological ability to do so? Or that they've razed Gaza over the last 6 weeks? For reference, below is my complete post that you responded to.

 

I'm reading suspicious activities along the Gaza border have been reported for months by soldiers, but these were ignored because it were female soldiers who were doing that.
Well, misogynicism turned deadly if true.

 

You know the saying lie gets around half the world before the truth has a chance to put its pants on.

With social media now, everyone tries to come out with a video ASAP. My wife has entered in a very pro Palestine sub TikTok and it seems for every IDF video there is some rando dissecting it for not being what it says it is.

Going forward Armies are gonna need to have social media departments. I am talking sergeant Smith in charge of counter attacking enemy videos on TikTok and two people assigned to Twitter (or whatever replaced it).

As a history major, it is wild to see conflicts crank out footage in real time.

 

And even with that, there is a lot of missinformation, and selective memory. Even with video evidence it is still difficult to change people's perceptions.